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LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 29 2012 11:56 GMT
#1601
Woah, how did Mvp lose?
Long live the King of Wings
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3703 Posts
August 29 2012 11:56 GMT
#1602
Elephant on a rampage :D
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 29 2012 11:56 GMT
#1603
On August 29 2012 20:50 ladyumbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:44 IMPrime wrote:
why did mkp and mvp try to doom drop

Because to be fair a lot of the protoss they face are fucking terrible at defending drops and will often outright die to them. The Kespa toss tend to be very good at drop defense and will sacrifice robo time to pumping out more obs so that they can see everything.

Invalid, sun had 1 obs the entire game, mkp just choked after he realized he was being too cocky.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
August 29 2012 11:56 GMT
#1604
Do it MC!

[image loading]
월요 날 재미있
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 11:57:33
August 29 2012 11:56 GMT
#1605
On August 29 2012 20:53 Djagulingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:50 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:45 Myrddraal wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:44 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Ugh, I hoped the KeSPA players would do well so quickly, but not against the M-Terrans - not like this!


Where is MMA when you need him?

Hopefully his extra M will keep him going.

You don't want to see MMA playing a TvP. He can't even TvP to save his life, he never could do it. And at this current state of TvP, well...


which terran is actually good at TvP?

Taeja, MKP, Mvp, Gumiho, Byun.

ByuN? Hardly. Gumi is a nice player but I wouldn't say he's great at TvP, but he is good. Mvp's relies on mind games and killing them before storm imo. I've never seen him deal well in a late game scenario vs templars apart from that specific game on Metropolis against squirtle where he could camp to BC's. (still lost the game). Overall he's done well at it, but it's never been a truly great matchup for him like tvt and tvz have been.
MKP's is still the best imo. (of ESF players anyway )

OptimusYale
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1005 Posts
August 29 2012 11:56 GMT
#1606
On August 29 2012 20:55 Herry wrote:
Anyone watching the Korean stream? WTF dogs speak Korean now?


when they get eaten they have to speak the language to avoid being eaten.

As for the elephants, they're here, but I still think it's meta vs. meta and the ESF meta's are at a completely different stage than Kespa, and ESF are getting fucked because of it.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
August 29 2012 11:56 GMT
#1607
On August 29 2012 20:54 Embir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:51 Fusilero wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:50 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:45 Myrddraal wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:44 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Ugh, I hoped the KeSPA players would do well so quickly, but not against the M-Terrans - not like this!


Where is MMA when you need him?

Hopefully his extra M will keep him going.

You don't want to see MMA playing a TvP. He can't even TvP to save his life, he never could do it. And at this current state of TvP, well...


which terran is actually good at TvP?

Taeja, PirateTerran, MoustacheTerran and LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe


I thought Taeja = LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe?

Anyways - BO 1 format is pathetic, there is no way for preparation or clever strategies, mind games - it is just like one ladder match.

P.S. Also BW idiot fanbois are fucking irritating in this thread.


So are people like you who have been here for a total of 5 seconds and think they know better than OGN on how to format their tournament.
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
August 29 2012 11:56 GMT
#1608
On August 29 2012 20:56 Loxley wrote:
Do it MC!

[image loading]

GO BOSSTOSS
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 29 2012 11:57 GMT
#1609
On August 29 2012 20:55 zyzq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:54 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:53 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:50 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:45 Myrddraal wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:44 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Ugh, I hoped the KeSPA players would do well so quickly, but not against the M-Terrans - not like this!


Where is MMA when you need him?

Hopefully his extra M will keep him going.

You don't want to see MMA playing a TvP. He can't even TvP to save his life, he never could do it. And at this current state of TvP, well...


which terran is actually good at TvP?

Taeja, MKP, Mvp, Gumiho, Byun.

Uhh, and Flash


Flash gets owned by KeSPA protosses, too

The only time he got "owned" is the game against Kal imo. Rest were close losses.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Atheist
Profile Joined December 2011
186 Posts
August 29 2012 11:57 GMT
#1610
I dont understand people still denying KeSPA talent.
superarmy
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand422 Posts
August 29 2012 11:57 GMT
#1611
On August 29 2012 20:54 veryveryhard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:53 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:50 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:45 Myrddraal wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:44 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Ugh, I hoped the KeSPA players would do well so quickly, but not against the M-Terrans - not like this!


Where is MMA when you need him?

Hopefully his extra M will keep him going.

You don't want to see MMA playing a TvP. He can't even TvP to save his life, he never could do it. And at this current state of TvP, well...


which terran is actually good at TvP?

Taeja, MKP, Mvp, Gumiho, Byun.


not anymore

They are allowed to lose one game you know, no one has a 100% winrate in a matchup long term, if you can manage 70% in a matchup you're godly. I think most of those guys have a 60% winrate which definitely makes it one of their strengths.
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
August 29 2012 11:57 GMT
#1612
On August 29 2012 20:54 TheKefka wrote:
BE-AGGRESIVE,B-E-AGGRESIVE,B-E-A-G-G-R-E-S-I-V-E!

BeSt will win coz Mc's wack,
We want abs,not a belly sack!

BE-AGGRESIVE,B-E-AGGRESIVE,B-E-A-G-G-R-E-S-I-V-E!

Goooooo0000OOOOOOO BEST!!!!YAAAAAY
[image loading]


You are my new favourite edition to LR threads.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
August 29 2012 11:57 GMT
#1613
On August 29 2012 20:48 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:45 mordk wrote:
Pffff this is embarrasing

And fucking infuriating for any GSL fan, ESF players need to start practicing for real

Doesn't help the ESF guys that they are flying out of the country to play a 3 day tournament just to get back to Korea and play official games (GSL, OSL etc) in the range of 24 hours while KeSPA teams are really hot on preperation and work ethic. This if anything will be their fall in the end.


Sad but true. Even though they can still dominate foreigners doing that, they're already falling behind Kespa players. I would actually never expect this dominance happen so early as now, very suprising!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
JyB
Profile Joined January 2012
France466 Posts
August 29 2012 11:57 GMT
#1614
On August 29 2012 20:56 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:50 ladyumbra wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:44 IMPrime wrote:
why did mkp and mvp try to doom drop

Because to be fair a lot of the protoss they face are fucking terrible at defending drops and will often outright die to them. The Kespa toss tend to be very good at drop defense and will sacrifice robo time to pumping out more obs so that they can see everything.

Invalid, sun had 1 obs the entire game, mkp just choked after he realized he was being too cocky.


no, he had at least two.
abalam
Profile Joined October 2011
Switzerland316 Posts
August 29 2012 11:57 GMT
#1615
On August 29 2012 20:55 Koshi wrote:
nvm it started

They're showing weird commercials on korean stream while the english stream has just a placeholder image.
Eraserhead
Profile Joined October 2011
159 Posts
August 29 2012 11:57 GMT
#1616
On August 29 2012 20:49 MiThiK wrote:
the real difference, is kespa players know how to prepare for matches. flying used that build specifcally for ohana and practiced it 100 times and won. MVP used the same build everyone uses GG


you mean: flying built an observer and knew exactly what was going on
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 29 2012 11:57 GMT
#1617
On August 29 2012 20:52 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:51 StormIsAJoke wrote:
LIVE REPORT UPDATE: Get Storms and win your games with smart-casting and get 20 DPS every 2 seconds with nice 50/150 and 2 supply unit. Literally a fucking joke, insane that the ability is not nerfed to shit. I'm going to neck myself out of this disappointment. inb4 b&. #RIPSC2


5 posts and one of them is trash, I guess its goodbye for you on Teamliquid. Also Terran has EMP.


Dude, that guy is a baiter. Don't mind him.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
August 29 2012 11:57 GMT
#1618
On August 29 2012 20:54 Lonyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:53 WArped wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:51 Fusilero wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:50 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:45 Myrddraal wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:44 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Ugh, I hoped the KeSPA players would do well so quickly, but not against the M-Terrans - not like this!


Where is MMA when you need him?

Hopefully his extra M will keep him going.

You don't want to see MMA playing a TvP. He can't even TvP to save his life, he never could do it. And at this current state of TvP, well...


which terran is actually good at TvP?

Taeja, PirateTerran, MoustacheTerran and LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe

It's his weakest match-up.

Flash has a weakest matchup too. Doesn't make him bad at it.

What match-up is his weakest?
6NR
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1472 Posts
August 29 2012 11:57 GMT
#1619
Kespa must be confident about GSL4 already
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 11:58:54
August 29 2012 11:57 GMT
#1620
On August 29 2012 20:55 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:51 iky43210 wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:49 GreggSauce wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Serinox wrote:
Yeah, two Bo1 TvP have now decided that KeSPA will definitly take over. Sometimes people are really stupid o.O


or you're slightly more delusional.

have you not followed anything thats going on?

they've only been playing for months now against people who the metagame is based around


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Asia/Nationals/South_Korea

you can cry yourself to sleep when things are proven once again when we see who advances in round of 16


And what would be a victory for ESF fans? Splitting 50/50 with KeSPA players would just be more evidence proving the elephant right.


splitting 50? there are total of 8 kespa players that managed to play in the tourney out of 32 spots, and 6 of them are invites. That means a heck bunch of kespa pros didn't even make it through the qualifiers.

And even the top cream of the kespa players can even only take 3 out of 8 spots from top 8 while rest disappears in the middle, and there's not going to be a 50/50 split by the time ro16 finishes, even in OSL
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