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Germany128 Posts
On August 17 2012 15:14 Vaftrudner wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2012 09:27 iAmJeffReY wrote:
Why, at these tournaments that have both day9 and tasteless, do they not have them cast together? I know it's probably been said as to why, but I'm curious. In his Real Talk interview, Tasteless talked about this. It's about branding. He and Artosis have been consciously working hard on branding themselves as the casting archon, making Tastosis a thing. They're business partners as well as friends. Previously, they didn't want this to get muddled up with The Plott Brothers. Likewise, Day9 has established his own brand with Day9tv. Now that they're already so well established and known, Tasteless is open to casting with Day9, but when Artosis is there I really don't see a reason. They're great together!
Thats correct. Tasteless and Artosis are an established brand. They are like Batman and Robin, but with Robin being on the same level of awesome that Batman is. And you wouldn't just pair him with Superman or Spiderman all of a sudden.
The only interesting possibility would be to put Artosis and Kaelaris together and call them "Plott-less" 
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Bomber
mOOnGLaDe
sLivko
MC
VortiX
HasuObs
If anyone wanna bet PM me
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Bomber the only Terran in his group, and the only Korean. Kind of feel like he's going to dominate.
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These are fun groups, a lot of players I haven't seen play in a long time.
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On August 17 2012 15:22 sam05396 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2012 15:18 RPR_Tempest wrote:On August 17 2012 12:56 Walitgon wrote:On August 17 2012 09:11 RPR_Tempest wrote:On August 17 2012 08:58 Dexington wrote:On August 17 2012 08:50 RPR_Tempest wrote:
mOOnGLaDe advances 100%.
Do I have to remind people of what happened last time mOOnGLaDe went to IEM? TL polls showed he had like no votes to get out of the group and the official TL prediction said he would go 0-6.
Then he raped HuK and Tarson very, very hard to advance.
Do I need to remind you people about WCG as well? That was last year, man. He is largely unproven outside of Australia. While he did win Oceania, none of those players are ever in international competitions so we have no way to gauge how well he will do. So what if it was last year? He hasn't gotten any worse. Look at his opponents. mOOnGLaDe lives and breathes ZvZ so sLivko won't stand much of a chance. Minigun 3-0ed IdrA, true, but mOOnGLaDe is better than IdrA right now since IdrA is just slumping like fuck right now. Grubby will beat mOOnGLaDe, I reckon. ZvP is GLaDe's weakest and Grubby's PvZ is quite nice. If Bly could almost beat Bomber, mOOnGLaDe can beat Bomber. I expect Bomber to be playing better today, but GLaDe still has a legitimate shot. elfi's PvZ just plain isn't good. mOOnGLaDe has beaten him before, anyway. Now, I'll get the inevitable responses calling me a fanboy, and yeah, mOOnGLaDe is my 2nd favourite player. But my fanboyism doesn't reflect my predictions in any way. My predictions are based off facts. O lawd. I respect the fanboyism but I've got my cash all over Moonglade losing and I think this is a bit of a skewed view. (1) Just yesterday TTPiG got DEMOLISHED by the international competition and PiG is somebody who has been beating Moonglade pretty regularly... Lol if you think Moonglade can take a game off Bomber... (2) Slivko is an absolute monster... We're talking wins against HYUN, Stephano, Dimaga, Sheth. Yes, not only the top of EU, but amazing Koreans, and the King himself, Stephano. You really think Moonglade can bring it to Slivko? Not only do I believe he'll 'stand a chance', 2-0 to Slivko in my books. (3) As for Moonglade's P v Z, he got pretty comprehensively beaten by xGKingLight in the recent WCS... And Light is somebody who... wait for it... I have beaten on ladder. Yes, me a scrub nub shitty-never-played-a-lan in my life zerg. Lettuce get some perspective... Grubby and Elfi aren't gods... But they're sitting atop EU (well Grubby is up there at least), with moutains of experience at Lans like this... They are the favourites against Glade. (4) Minigun is rubbish so you can have that victory ^_^ Slivko 2-0 Moonglade Elfi 2-1 Moonglade Minigun 1-2 MoongladeBomber 2-0 Moonglade Grubby 2-0 Moonglade PiG got beaten by Light, not mOOnGLaDe. mOOnGLaDe hasn't played Light in a tournament in a while. PiG didn't beat mOOnGLaDe regularly, they trade series fairly evenly. And PiG's ZvZ may be even with mOOnGLaDes, but mOOnGLaDe's other match-ups are far superior. And I already backed up why I think mOOnGLaDe can beat Bomber. Bly could beat him, so can GLaDe, even if Bomber is going to be playing better today. Even if he loses to Bomber and Grubby he's still 3-2. sLivko beating those players is impressive. Good thing GLaDe has done the same thing. Not in tournaments, but he has beaten people who have beaten NesTea, Stephano and more, etc, in addition to mOOnGLaDe having GM MMR on Korea meaning he faces very, very good Zergs. I actually love playing this game. The whole "THIS GUY IS GOING TO WIN AND HERE'S WHY" and the subsequent humilation/FUCKYEAAAAHness of the outcome. Don't take any of this too seriously, it's 9Gag style: Just for fun. u cant be serious with the "he beat someone who beat someone" logic, dumbest thing ever, say JYP beats symbol but someone beats JYP in tvp they become as good as JYP... lol
No, but it happens regularly, it's not like CatZ or something winning one ZvZ vs DongRaeGu or anything like that, he beats these people again and again and again. PiG went toe to toe with NesTea and should have won game 2, mOOnGLaDe has a fairly even record with him. Just based off the games I can tell that mOOnGLaDe would do just as well in that position. Plus if you watch his gameplay, his ZvZ knowledge is genuinely very, very good.
A > B > C logic is bad, yeah. But it will suffice for now, since I don't have any international games recently from mOOnGLaDe in ZvZ to try and use to support it. Well, mOOnGLaDe beat Suppy in a ZvZ, but apart from that hasn't played a tournament ZvZ outside Australia since he lost 1-2 to Sen (another ZvZ master)
EDIT: mOOnGLaDe has beaten sLivko on ladder. So, yes, mOOnGLaDe can take games off him. I know ladder is an entirely different beast from tournaments, but sLivko isn't some grave challenge for mOOnGLaDe. He's tough, sure.
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Heck yes EM SEE!
Grahh not sure whether I'll be able to catch his games...I'll try my best :X
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On August 17 2012 15:18 RPR_Tempest wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2012 12:56 Walitgon wrote:On August 17 2012 09:11 RPR_Tempest wrote:On August 17 2012 08:58 Dexington wrote:On August 17 2012 08:50 RPR_Tempest wrote:
mOOnGLaDe advances 100%.
Do I have to remind people of what happened last time mOOnGLaDe went to IEM? TL polls showed he had like no votes to get out of the group and the official TL prediction said he would go 0-6.
Then he raped HuK and Tarson very, very hard to advance.
Do I need to remind you people about WCG as well? That was last year, man. He is largely unproven outside of Australia. While he did win Oceania, none of those players are ever in international competitions so we have no way to gauge how well he will do. So what if it was last year? He hasn't gotten any worse. Look at his opponents. mOOnGLaDe lives and breathes ZvZ so sLivko won't stand much of a chance. Minigun 3-0ed IdrA, true, but mOOnGLaDe is better than IdrA right now since IdrA is just slumping like fuck right now. Grubby will beat mOOnGLaDe, I reckon. ZvP is GLaDe's weakest and Grubby's PvZ is quite nice. If Bly could almost beat Bomber, mOOnGLaDe can beat Bomber. I expect Bomber to be playing better today, but GLaDe still has a legitimate shot. elfi's PvZ just plain isn't good. mOOnGLaDe has beaten him before, anyway. Now, I'll get the inevitable responses calling me a fanboy, and yeah, mOOnGLaDe is my 2nd favourite player. But my fanboyism doesn't reflect my predictions in any way. My predictions are based off facts. O lawd. I respect the fanboyism but I've got my cash all over Moonglade losing and I think this is a bit of a skewed view. (1) Just yesterday TTPiG got DEMOLISHED by the international competition and PiG is somebody who has been beating Moonglade pretty regularly... Lol if you think Moonglade can take a game off Bomber... (2) Slivko is an absolute monster... We're talking wins against HYUN, Stephano, Dimaga, Sheth. Yes, not only the top of EU, but amazing Koreans, and the King himself, Stephano. You really think Moonglade can bring it to Slivko? Not only do I believe he'll 'stand a chance', 2-0 to Slivko in my books. (3) As for Moonglade's P v Z, he got pretty comprehensively beaten by xGKingLight in the recent WCS... And Light is somebody who... wait for it... I have beaten on ladder. Yes, me a scrub nub shitty-never-played-a-lan in my life zerg. Lettuce get some perspective... Grubby and Elfi aren't gods... But they're sitting atop EU (well Grubby is up there at least), with moutains of experience at Lans like this... They are the favourites against Glade. (4) Minigun is rubbish so you can have that victory ^_^ Slivko 2-0 Moonglade Elfi 2-1 Moonglade Minigun 1-2 MoongladeBomber 2-0 Moonglade Grubby 2-0 Moonglade PiG got beaten by Light, not mOOnGLaDe. mOOnGLaDe hasn't played Light in a tournament in a while. PiG didn't beat mOOnGLaDe regularly, they trade series fairly evenly. And PiG's ZvZ may be even with mOOnGLaDes, but mOOnGLaDe's other match-ups are far superior. And I already backed up why I think mOOnGLaDe can beat Bomber. Bly could beat him, so can GLaDe, even if Bomber is going to be playing better today. Even if he loses to Bomber and Grubby he's still 3-2. sLivko beating those players is impressive. Good thing GLaDe has done the same thing. Not in tournaments, but he has beaten people who have beaten NesTea, Stephano and more, etc, in addition to mOOnGLaDe having GM MMR on Korea meaning he faces very, very good Zergs. I actually love playing this game. The whole "THIS GUY IS GOING TO WIN AND HERE'S WHY" and the subsequent humilation/FUCKYEAAAAHness of the outcome. Don't take any of this too seriously, it's 9Gag style: Just for fun.
Hahaha I love these games too. The shame and humiliation that goes with losing. GOOD LUCK my friend.
Moonglade bot beaten by Light at WCS Australia, I should have made that clear. Not WCS Oceania.
Ok, even if PiG trades regularly with Moonglade, that still puts them on even footing and PiG is still 1-10 yesterday.
A lot of people 'can' beat Bomber and I do think Moonglade 'could' beat him. But it's just so immensely unlikely. Bly is one player. Look at Bomber's history and you'll see why it is so unlikely...
And yeah, Glade has beaten good people. But it's not often, it's not consistent, and it's not at big LANs. Slivko has that record.
But like I said... good luck my friend, good luck. We shall meet later
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On August 17 2012 15:34 Walitgon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2012 15:18 RPR_Tempest wrote:On August 17 2012 12:56 Walitgon wrote:On August 17 2012 09:11 RPR_Tempest wrote:On August 17 2012 08:58 Dexington wrote:On August 17 2012 08:50 RPR_Tempest wrote:
mOOnGLaDe advances 100%.
Do I have to remind people of what happened last time mOOnGLaDe went to IEM? TL polls showed he had like no votes to get out of the group and the official TL prediction said he would go 0-6.
Then he raped HuK and Tarson very, very hard to advance.
Do I need to remind you people about WCG as well? That was last year, man. He is largely unproven outside of Australia. While he did win Oceania, none of those players are ever in international competitions so we have no way to gauge how well he will do. So what if it was last year? He hasn't gotten any worse. Look at his opponents. mOOnGLaDe lives and breathes ZvZ so sLivko won't stand much of a chance. Minigun 3-0ed IdrA, true, but mOOnGLaDe is better than IdrA right now since IdrA is just slumping like fuck right now. Grubby will beat mOOnGLaDe, I reckon. ZvP is GLaDe's weakest and Grubby's PvZ is quite nice. If Bly could almost beat Bomber, mOOnGLaDe can beat Bomber. I expect Bomber to be playing better today, but GLaDe still has a legitimate shot. elfi's PvZ just plain isn't good. mOOnGLaDe has beaten him before, anyway. Now, I'll get the inevitable responses calling me a fanboy, and yeah, mOOnGLaDe is my 2nd favourite player. But my fanboyism doesn't reflect my predictions in any way. My predictions are based off facts. O lawd. I respect the fanboyism but I've got my cash all over Moonglade losing and I think this is a bit of a skewed view. (1) Just yesterday TTPiG got DEMOLISHED by the international competition and PiG is somebody who has been beating Moonglade pretty regularly... Lol if you think Moonglade can take a game off Bomber... (2) Slivko is an absolute monster... We're talking wins against HYUN, Stephano, Dimaga, Sheth. Yes, not only the top of EU, but amazing Koreans, and the King himself, Stephano. You really think Moonglade can bring it to Slivko? Not only do I believe he'll 'stand a chance', 2-0 to Slivko in my books. (3) As for Moonglade's P v Z, he got pretty comprehensively beaten by xGKingLight in the recent WCS... And Light is somebody who... wait for it... I have beaten on ladder. Yes, me a scrub nub shitty-never-played-a-lan in my life zerg. Lettuce get some perspective... Grubby and Elfi aren't gods... But they're sitting atop EU (well Grubby is up there at least), with moutains of experience at Lans like this... They are the favourites against Glade. (4) Minigun is rubbish so you can have that victory ^_^ Slivko 2-0 Moonglade Elfi 2-1 Moonglade Minigun 1-2 MoongladeBomber 2-0 Moonglade Grubby 2-0 Moonglade PiG got beaten by Light, not mOOnGLaDe. mOOnGLaDe hasn't played Light in a tournament in a while. PiG didn't beat mOOnGLaDe regularly, they trade series fairly evenly. And PiG's ZvZ may be even with mOOnGLaDes, but mOOnGLaDe's other match-ups are far superior. And I already backed up why I think mOOnGLaDe can beat Bomber. Bly could beat him, so can GLaDe, even if Bomber is going to be playing better today. Even if he loses to Bomber and Grubby he's still 3-2. sLivko beating those players is impressive. Good thing GLaDe has done the same thing. Not in tournaments, but he has beaten people who have beaten NesTea, Stephano and more, etc, in addition to mOOnGLaDe having GM MMR on Korea meaning he faces very, very good Zergs. I actually love playing this game. The whole "THIS GUY IS GOING TO WIN AND HERE'S WHY" and the subsequent humilation/FUCKYEAAAAHness of the outcome. Don't take any of this too seriously, it's 9Gag style: Just for fun. Moonglade bot beaten by Light at WCS Australia, I should have made that clear. Not WCS Oceania.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Oceania/Nationals/Australia
????
Anyway, glhf.
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Group C results are easier to predict, but group D could produce a few interesting upsets and some crazy games.
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Group C seems kind of boring to me. I would be greatly surprised if it isn't gonna be #1 Bomber with Grubby and sLivko fighting for #2.
Group D on the other hand seems like it's gonna be exciting. Besides that i think that HasuObs might surprise in PvP and beat some koreans, i think that Vortix has a decent shot at getting Top 3. I feel like it will be #1 MC, #2 Supernova and #3 Vortix in the end. Although Real and Hasuobs both can do it imo.
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Not sure if Moonglade was taking a part in a LEXX series,but he looks similar to the one of the main actors :D
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On August 17 2012 15:35 RPR_Tempest wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2012 15:34 Walitgon wrote:On August 17 2012 15:18 RPR_Tempest wrote:On August 17 2012 12:56 Walitgon wrote:On August 17 2012 09:11 RPR_Tempest wrote:On August 17 2012 08:58 Dexington wrote:On August 17 2012 08:50 RPR_Tempest wrote:
mOOnGLaDe advances 100%.
Do I have to remind people of what happened last time mOOnGLaDe went to IEM? TL polls showed he had like no votes to get out of the group and the official TL prediction said he would go 0-6.
Then he raped HuK and Tarson very, very hard to advance.
Do I need to remind you people about WCG as well? That was last year, man. He is largely unproven outside of Australia. While he did win Oceania, none of those players are ever in international competitions so we have no way to gauge how well he will do. So what if it was last year? He hasn't gotten any worse. Look at his opponents. mOOnGLaDe lives and breathes ZvZ so sLivko won't stand much of a chance. Minigun 3-0ed IdrA, true, but mOOnGLaDe is better than IdrA right now since IdrA is just slumping like fuck right now. Grubby will beat mOOnGLaDe, I reckon. ZvP is GLaDe's weakest and Grubby's PvZ is quite nice. If Bly could almost beat Bomber, mOOnGLaDe can beat Bomber. I expect Bomber to be playing better today, but GLaDe still has a legitimate shot. elfi's PvZ just plain isn't good. mOOnGLaDe has beaten him before, anyway. Now, I'll get the inevitable responses calling me a fanboy, and yeah, mOOnGLaDe is my 2nd favourite player. But my fanboyism doesn't reflect my predictions in any way. My predictions are based off facts. O lawd. I respect the fanboyism but I've got my cash all over Moonglade losing and I think this is a bit of a skewed view. (1) Just yesterday TTPiG got DEMOLISHED by the international competition and PiG is somebody who has been beating Moonglade pretty regularly... Lol if you think Moonglade can take a game off Bomber... (2) Slivko is an absolute monster... We're talking wins against HYUN, Stephano, Dimaga, Sheth. Yes, not only the top of EU, but amazing Koreans, and the King himself, Stephano. You really think Moonglade can bring it to Slivko? Not only do I believe he'll 'stand a chance', 2-0 to Slivko in my books. (3) As for Moonglade's P v Z, he got pretty comprehensively beaten by xGKingLight in the recent WCS... And Light is somebody who... wait for it... I have beaten on ladder. Yes, me a scrub nub shitty-never-played-a-lan in my life zerg. Lettuce get some perspective... Grubby and Elfi aren't gods... But they're sitting atop EU (well Grubby is up there at least), with moutains of experience at Lans like this... They are the favourites against Glade. (4) Minigun is rubbish so you can have that victory ^_^ Slivko 2-0 Moonglade Elfi 2-1 Moonglade Minigun 1-2 MoongladeBomber 2-0 Moonglade Grubby 2-0 Moonglade PiG got beaten by Light, not mOOnGLaDe. mOOnGLaDe hasn't played Light in a tournament in a while. PiG didn't beat mOOnGLaDe regularly, they trade series fairly evenly. And PiG's ZvZ may be even with mOOnGLaDes, but mOOnGLaDe's other match-ups are far superior. And I already backed up why I think mOOnGLaDe can beat Bomber. Bly could beat him, so can GLaDe, even if Bomber is going to be playing better today. Even if he loses to Bomber and Grubby he's still 3-2. sLivko beating those players is impressive. Good thing GLaDe has done the same thing. Not in tournaments, but he has beaten people who have beaten NesTea, Stephano and more, etc, in addition to mOOnGLaDe having GM MMR on Korea meaning he faces very, very good Zergs. I actually love playing this game. The whole "THIS GUY IS GOING TO WIN AND HERE'S WHY" and the subsequent humilation/FUCKYEAAAAHness of the outcome. Don't take any of this too seriously, it's 9Gag style: Just for fun. Moonglade bot beaten by Light at WCS Australia, I should have made that clear. Not WCS Oceania. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Oceania/Nationals/Australia???? Anyway, glhf.
Uh, weird. Guess my memory went full foreigner!
Gl hf
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Austria24420 Posts
You know who's gonna make it out for sure? CHAD M JONES. Because his PvZ is madness and his PvP is pretty solid.
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wouldn't expect minigun to win his group but wouldn't be surprised to see him make top 3, I think the protosses in that group are all fairly even
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I really dont get how Moonglade is favoured over Slivko and Elfi? 
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Man I was going to go to bed, but this starts in 1 minute... not sure if I should just sleep and check the results or stay up and watch for a bit
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I think sLivko, Elfi and Grubby for Group 1 and MC, ReaL and Vortix for group 2
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slivko vs bomber to start things up!!
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On August 17 2012 15:44 Walitgon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2012 15:35 RPR_Tempest wrote:On August 17 2012 15:34 Walitgon wrote:On August 17 2012 15:18 RPR_Tempest wrote:On August 17 2012 12:56 Walitgon wrote:On August 17 2012 09:11 RPR_Tempest wrote:On August 17 2012 08:58 Dexington wrote:On August 17 2012 08:50 RPR_Tempest wrote:
mOOnGLaDe advances 100%.
Do I have to remind people of what happened last time mOOnGLaDe went to IEM? TL polls showed he had like no votes to get out of the group and the official TL prediction said he would go 0-6.
Then he raped HuK and Tarson very, very hard to advance.
Do I need to remind you people about WCG as well? That was last year, man. He is largely unproven outside of Australia. While he did win Oceania, none of those players are ever in international competitions so we have no way to gauge how well he will do. So what if it was last year? He hasn't gotten any worse. Look at his opponents. mOOnGLaDe lives and breathes ZvZ so sLivko won't stand much of a chance. Minigun 3-0ed IdrA, true, but mOOnGLaDe is better than IdrA right now since IdrA is just slumping like fuck right now. Grubby will beat mOOnGLaDe, I reckon. ZvP is GLaDe's weakest and Grubby's PvZ is quite nice. If Bly could almost beat Bomber, mOOnGLaDe can beat Bomber. I expect Bomber to be playing better today, but GLaDe still has a legitimate shot. elfi's PvZ just plain isn't good. mOOnGLaDe has beaten him before, anyway. Now, I'll get the inevitable responses calling me a fanboy, and yeah, mOOnGLaDe is my 2nd favourite player. But my fanboyism doesn't reflect my predictions in any way. My predictions are based off facts. O lawd. I respect the fanboyism but I've got my cash all over Moonglade losing and I think this is a bit of a skewed view. (1) Just yesterday TTPiG got DEMOLISHED by the international competition and PiG is somebody who has been beating Moonglade pretty regularly... Lol if you think Moonglade can take a game off Bomber... (2) Slivko is an absolute monster... We're talking wins against HYUN, Stephano, Dimaga, Sheth. Yes, not only the top of EU, but amazing Koreans, and the King himself, Stephano. You really think Moonglade can bring it to Slivko? Not only do I believe he'll 'stand a chance', 2-0 to Slivko in my books. (3) As for Moonglade's P v Z, he got pretty comprehensively beaten by xGKingLight in the recent WCS... And Light is somebody who... wait for it... I have beaten on ladder. Yes, me a scrub nub shitty-never-played-a-lan in my life zerg. Lettuce get some perspective... Grubby and Elfi aren't gods... But they're sitting atop EU (well Grubby is up there at least), with moutains of experience at Lans like this... They are the favourites against Glade. (4) Minigun is rubbish so you can have that victory ^_^ Slivko 2-0 Moonglade Elfi 2-1 Moonglade Minigun 1-2 MoongladeBomber 2-0 Moonglade Grubby 2-0 Moonglade PiG got beaten by Light, not mOOnGLaDe. mOOnGLaDe hasn't played Light in a tournament in a while. PiG didn't beat mOOnGLaDe regularly, they trade series fairly evenly. And PiG's ZvZ may be even with mOOnGLaDes, but mOOnGLaDe's other match-ups are far superior. And I already backed up why I think mOOnGLaDe can beat Bomber. Bly could beat him, so can GLaDe, even if Bomber is going to be playing better today. Even if he loses to Bomber and Grubby he's still 3-2. sLivko beating those players is impressive. Good thing GLaDe has done the same thing. Not in tournaments, but he has beaten people who have beaten NesTea, Stephano and more, etc, in addition to mOOnGLaDe having GM MMR on Korea meaning he faces very, very good Zergs. I actually love playing this game. The whole "THIS GUY IS GOING TO WIN AND HERE'S WHY" and the subsequent humilation/FUCKYEAAAAHness of the outcome. Don't take any of this too seriously, it's 9Gag style: Just for fun. Moonglade bot beaten by Light at WCS Australia, I should have made that clear. Not WCS Oceania. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Oceania/Nationals/Australia???? Anyway, glhf. Uh, weird. Guess my memory went full foreigner! Gl hf
moonglade lost to Light and Pig in http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Australian_Cyber_League/2012_Pro_Circuit/Melbourne
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On August 17 2012 15:56 LaaLaaLeevi wrote:I really dont get how Moonglade is favoured over Slivko and Elfi?
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I agree though, gogogo glade!
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