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starception
Profile Joined August 2012
205 Posts
August 17 2012 19:36 GMT
#2621
If all things go well, there will be a top 4 Korean bracket.

predictions:

AZUBU.Violet > elfi
SK.MC > Kas
Mill.forGG > Vortix
Sortof > Slivko

then round of 8:
ST_Bomber > AZUBU.Violet
SK.MC > Nerchio
Mill.ForGG < mTw.Supernova
LG-IM_Mvp > SortOf

Round of 4 (where it gets exciting because no more foreigners):
SK.MC > ST_Bomber
LG-IM_Mvp > mTw.Supernova

Finalz:
SK.MC > LG-IM_Mvp
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 19:39:46
August 17 2012 19:36 GMT
#2622
On August 18 2012 04:19 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 03:55 Zane wrote:
On August 18 2012 03:40 AxionSteel wrote:
Should be a good bracket for Mvp, but I can see him maybe losing to the abusive play of SortOf, hopefully Slivko takes him out.

I don't think Mvp will lose a bo5 to any of the patchzergs. Supernova could be a threat, but Mvp is still the favorite.


lololol... patchzergs... so true.


I know this isn't my first time pointing this out, but we used to ban people for crap like this, did we not? This term, "Patchzergs" is basically implying that the zergs who've had [limited] success lately are only successful due to some imbalance, and not by their own merit.

It's underhandedly, in the snide roundabout way, insulting players while also insinuating some balance whine. It'd be garbage posting even in a balance thread, and this isn't even a balance thread.

Really just disappointed. I know we all have our race-bias, but please have the self-awareness to not be a snide d-bag about it.
Big water
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
August 17 2012 19:37 GMT
#2623
Aww SuperNoVa vs Mvp on the same side of the bracket.
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
August 17 2012 19:41 GMT
#2624
On August 18 2012 04:36 Leporello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 04:19 SupLilSon wrote:
On August 18 2012 03:55 Zane wrote:
On August 18 2012 03:40 AxionSteel wrote:
Should be a good bracket for Mvp, but I can see him maybe losing to the abusive play of SortOf, hopefully Slivko takes him out.

I don't think Mvp will lose a bo5 to any of the patchzergs. Supernova could be a threat, but Mvp is still the favorite.


lololol... patchzergs... so true.


I know this isn't my first time pointing this out, but we used to ban people for crap like this, did we not? This term, "Patchzergs" is basically implying that the zergs who've had [limited] success lately are only successful due to some imbalance, and not by their own merit.

It's underhandedly, in the snide roundabout way, insulting players while also insinuating some balance whine. It'd be garbage posting even in a balance thread, and this isn't even a balance thread.

Really just disappointed. I know we all have our race-bias, but please have the self-awareness to not be a snide d-bag about it.


There was a boom of European Zergs that no one ever heard of performing well after the patch. Coincidence or not, the term patch zergs just applies to the Zergs that have had success only recently. Stating MvP should beat Zergs that have not been dominant for long is not that bad of a statement.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
August 17 2012 19:43 GMT
#2625
On August 18 2012 04:36 starception wrote:
If all things go well, there will be a top 4 Korean bracket.

predictions:

Finalz:
SK.MC > LG-IM_Mvp



I don't think this is the likely scenario. Mvp is a born champion and he rarely loses in the finals...
He has the balls to do whatever it takes to win, so I'm pretty sure that if he gets to the finals, he wins.

You can never underestimate MC but he did lose a fair share of his finals, to Taeja, Puma, Seed etc.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
August 17 2012 19:44 GMT
#2626
On August 18 2012 04:41 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 04:36 Leporello wrote:
On August 18 2012 04:19 SupLilSon wrote:
On August 18 2012 03:55 Zane wrote:
On August 18 2012 03:40 AxionSteel wrote:
Should be a good bracket for Mvp, but I can see him maybe losing to the abusive play of SortOf, hopefully Slivko takes him out.

I don't think Mvp will lose a bo5 to any of the patchzergs. Supernova could be a threat, but Mvp is still the favorite.


lololol... patchzergs... so true.


I know this isn't my first time pointing this out, but we used to ban people for crap like this, did we not? This term, "Patchzergs" is basically implying that the zergs who've had [limited] success lately are only successful due to some imbalance, and not by their own merit.

It's underhandedly, in the snide roundabout way, insulting players while also insinuating some balance whine. It'd be garbage posting even in a balance thread, and this isn't even a balance thread.

Really just disappointed. I know we all have our race-bias, but please have the self-awareness to not be a snide d-bag about it.


There was a boom of European Zergs that no one ever heard of performing well after the patch. Coincidence or not, the term patch zergs just applies to the Zergs that have had success only recently. Stating MvP should beat Zergs that have not been dominant for long is not that bad of a statement.

MVP was mainly successful when terran was way OP. Does that make MVP the ultimate patch-player?
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 19:48:55
August 17 2012 19:44 GMT
#2627
On August 18 2012 04:41 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 04:36 Leporello wrote:
On August 18 2012 04:19 SupLilSon wrote:
On August 18 2012 03:55 Zane wrote:
On August 18 2012 03:40 AxionSteel wrote:
Should be a good bracket for Mvp, but I can see him maybe losing to the abusive play of SortOf, hopefully Slivko takes him out.

I don't think Mvp will lose a bo5 to any of the patchzergs. Supernova could be a threat, but Mvp is still the favorite.


lololol... patchzergs... so true.


I know this isn't my first time pointing this out, but we used to ban people for crap like this, did we not? This term, "Patchzergs" is basically implying that the zergs who've had [limited] success lately are only successful due to some imbalance, and not by their own merit.

It's underhandedly, in the snide roundabout way, insulting players while also insinuating some balance whine. It'd be garbage posting even in a balance thread, and this isn't even a balance thread.

Really just disappointed. I know we all have our race-bias, but please have the self-awareness to not be a snide d-bag about it.


There was a boom of European Zergs that no one ever heard of performing well after the patch. Coincidence or not, the term patch zergs just applies to the Zergs that have had success only recently. Stating MvP should beat Zergs that have not been dominant for long is not that bad of a statement.

Coincidence or not, you don't have to invent a term for newcomer players centered around their race in a way that implies that they've been made OP by a very small patch change.

If you really think players like Vortix owe their success to some patch, at least have the decency to say it plainly.
Big water
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
August 17 2012 19:49 GMT
#2628
On August 18 2012 04:44 m0ck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 04:41 xrapture wrote:
On August 18 2012 04:36 Leporello wrote:
On August 18 2012 04:19 SupLilSon wrote:
On August 18 2012 03:55 Zane wrote:
On August 18 2012 03:40 AxionSteel wrote:
Should be a good bracket for Mvp, but I can see him maybe losing to the abusive play of SortOf, hopefully Slivko takes him out.

I don't think Mvp will lose a bo5 to any of the patchzergs. Supernova could be a threat, but Mvp is still the favorite.


lololol... patchzergs... so true.


I know this isn't my first time pointing this out, but we used to ban people for crap like this, did we not? This term, "Patchzergs" is basically implying that the zergs who've had [limited] success lately are only successful due to some imbalance, and not by their own merit.

It's underhandedly, in the snide roundabout way, insulting players while also insinuating some balance whine. It'd be garbage posting even in a balance thread, and this isn't even a balance thread.

Really just disappointed. I know we all have our race-bias, but please have the self-awareness to not be a snide d-bag about it.


There was a boom of European Zergs that no one ever heard of performing well after the patch. Coincidence or not, the term patch zergs just applies to the Zergs that have had success only recently. Stating MvP should beat Zergs that have not been dominant for long is not that bad of a statement.

MVP was mainly successful when terran was way OP. Does that make MVP the ultimate patch-player?


If you mean that he continued to win despite terran getting nerfed with every single patch, sometimes even in the middle of gsl season, than yes, he is ultimate patch player
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
August 17 2012 19:50 GMT
#2629
On August 18 2012 04:44 Leporello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 04:41 xrapture wrote:
On August 18 2012 04:36 Leporello wrote:
On August 18 2012 04:19 SupLilSon wrote:
On August 18 2012 03:55 Zane wrote:
On August 18 2012 03:40 AxionSteel wrote:
Should be a good bracket for Mvp, but I can see him maybe losing to the abusive play of SortOf, hopefully Slivko takes him out.

I don't think Mvp will lose a bo5 to any of the patchzergs. Supernova could be a threat, but Mvp is still the favorite.


lololol... patchzergs... so true.


I know this isn't my first time pointing this out, but we used to ban people for crap like this, did we not? This term, "Patchzergs" is basically implying that the zergs who've had [limited] success lately are only successful due to some imbalance, and not by their own merit.

It's underhandedly, in the snide roundabout way, insulting players while also insinuating some balance whine. It'd be garbage posting even in a balance thread, and this isn't even a balance thread.

Really just disappointed. I know we all have our race-bias, but please have the self-awareness to not be a snide d-bag about it.


There was a boom of European Zergs that no one ever heard of performing well after the patch. Coincidence or not, the term patch zergs just applies to the Zergs that have had success only recently. Stating MvP should beat Zergs that have not been dominant for long is not that bad of a statement.

Coincidence or not, you don't have to invent a term for newcomer players centered around their race in a way that implies that they've been made OP by a very small patch change.

If you really think players like Vortix owe their success to some patch, at least have the decency to say it plainly.


you do know what website we're on right, lol?
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
zYwi3c
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland1811 Posts
August 17 2012 19:51 GMT
#2630
On August 18 2012 04:36 starception wrote:
If all things go well, there will be a top 4 Korean bracket.

predictions:

AZUBU.Violet > elfi
SK.MC > Kas
Mill.forGG > Vortix
Sortof > Slivko

then round of 8:
ST_Bomber > AZUBU.Violet
SK.MC > Nerchio
Mill.ForGG < mTw.Supernova
LG-IM_Mvp > SortOf

Round of 4 (where it gets exciting because no more foreigners):
SK.MC > ST_Bomber
LG-IM_Mvp > mTw.Supernova

Finalz:
SK.MC > LG-IM_Mvp


Funny, cuz i thought exactly the same.

I'm getting the derection.
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
August 17 2012 19:51 GMT
#2631
On August 18 2012 04:44 m0ck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 04:41 xrapture wrote:
On August 18 2012 04:36 Leporello wrote:
On August 18 2012 04:19 SupLilSon wrote:
On August 18 2012 03:55 Zane wrote:
On August 18 2012 03:40 AxionSteel wrote:
Should be a good bracket for Mvp, but I can see him maybe losing to the abusive play of SortOf, hopefully Slivko takes him out.

I don't think Mvp will lose a bo5 to any of the patchzergs. Supernova could be a threat, but Mvp is still the favorite.


lololol... patchzergs... so true.


I know this isn't my first time pointing this out, but we used to ban people for crap like this, did we not? This term, "Patchzergs" is basically implying that the zergs who've had [limited] success lately are only successful due to some imbalance, and not by their own merit.

It's underhandedly, in the snide roundabout way, insulting players while also insinuating some balance whine. It'd be garbage posting even in a balance thread, and this isn't even a balance thread.

Really just disappointed. I know we all have our race-bias, but please have the self-awareness to not be a snide d-bag about it.


There was a boom of European Zergs that no one ever heard of performing well after the patch. Coincidence or not, the term patch zergs just applies to the Zergs that have had success only recently. Stating MvP should beat Zergs that have not been dominant for long is not that bad of a statement.

MVP was mainly successful when terran was way OP. Does that make MVP the ultimate patch-player?




Lol not even true because he was winning against shit tons of other terrans in TvT in which the better player usually wins.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
August 17 2012 19:53 GMT
#2632
Awww, none of the NA qualifiers made it through.
Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
August 17 2012 19:54 GMT
#2633
MVP vs Bomber Finals..MVP wins 4-2
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 20:00:37
August 17 2012 19:55 GMT
#2634
RO16:

elfi < viOlet
MC > Kas

Vortix > ForGG
sLivko > SortOf

-----------

RO8:

Bomber < viOlet
MC < Nerchio

SuperNova > Vortix
sLivko < Mvp

------------

RO4:
viOlet > Nerchio
SuperNova > Mvp

-----------

Final:
viOlet < Mvp

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SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
August 17 2012 19:55 GMT
#2635
VortiX > ForGG ( i wish )
SortOf > sLivko ( will be hard tho )

gogo!
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
August 17 2012 19:58 GMT
#2636
On August 18 2012 04:44 m0ck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 04:41 xrapture wrote:
On August 18 2012 04:36 Leporello wrote:
On August 18 2012 04:19 SupLilSon wrote:
On August 18 2012 03:55 Zane wrote:
On August 18 2012 03:40 AxionSteel wrote:
Should be a good bracket for Mvp, but I can see him maybe losing to the abusive play of SortOf, hopefully Slivko takes him out.

I don't think Mvp will lose a bo5 to any of the patchzergs. Supernova could be a threat, but Mvp is still the favorite.


lololol... patchzergs... so true.


I know this isn't my first time pointing this out, but we used to ban people for crap like this, did we not? This term, "Patchzergs" is basically implying that the zergs who've had [limited] success lately are only successful due to some imbalance, and not by their own merit.

It's underhandedly, in the snide roundabout way, insulting players while also insinuating some balance whine. It'd be garbage posting even in a balance thread, and this isn't even a balance thread.

Really just disappointed. I know we all have our race-bias, but please have the self-awareness to not be a snide d-bag about it.


There was a boom of European Zergs that no one ever heard of performing well after the patch. Coincidence or not, the term patch zergs just applies to the Zergs that have had success only recently. Stating MvP should beat Zergs that have not been dominant for long is not that bad of a statement.

MVP was mainly successful when terran was way OP. Does that make MVP the ultimate patch-player?


MVP won GSL two seasons ago...
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
pAzand
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden539 Posts
August 17 2012 20:03 GMT
#2637
Supernova is a sexy beast! His play against MC on Daybreak was off the hook.. Definitely my favourite for this tournament! Well done by all the foreigners going through to the playoffs, especially Kas and Nerchio! Wish I had more time watching this particular tournament!
If you can chill.. Chill!
shepherdxoxo
Profile Joined July 2012
Netherlands260 Posts
August 17 2012 20:34 GMT
#2638
By looks of it, it would be a safe bet to put your money on either SuperNova or MVP. Then again, anyone is able to lose a couple of games and get knocked out. :p

I'm going with SuperNova. Because he's so damn awesome and I'd like mTw to get a little bit of shine!
Rain <3
ES_JohnClark
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1121 Posts
August 17 2012 20:45 GMT
#2639
OK.. i have not had a chance to read much of this thread at all.. but has anyone pointed out how messed up Group B final results are?

When did head 2 head results get trumped by maps won?

I love ESL and totally respect Carmac.. but this can't be right can it?

And for those that do not think its a big deal.. it is. It sets a very bad precedent for other events. It should almost ALWAYS be head 2 head that decides a tie within a group or division.

Am I missing something here?
Still Naked!
FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 20:52:52
August 17 2012 20:52 GMT
#2640
On August 18 2012 05:45 csn_JohnClark wrote:
OK.. i have not had a chance to read much of this thread at all.. but has anyone pointed out how messed up Group B final results are?

When did head 2 head results get trumped by maps won?

I love ESL and totally respect Carmac.. but this can't be right can it?

And for those that do not think its a big deal.. it is. It sets a very bad precedent for other events. It should almost ALWAYS be head 2 head that decides a tie within a group or division.

Am I missing something here?


ow, Violet should be top, true..
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