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mhobbit
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile10 Posts
August 17 2012 02:25 GMT
#41
GOGOGO KiLLeR you can do it!
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 03:01:13
August 17 2012 02:56 GMT
#42
On August 17 2012 09:02 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 08:54 Bagration wrote:
On August 17 2012 08:51 BlindKill wrote:
wow really same votes for Bomber and Grubby? Bomber is a beast ok


Bomber is a beast....sometimes.

more like... rarely (especially these days).


still a code A player (bomber or anyone else really) should advance group C lol, i see it as the easiest group

prediction:
group C: 1.bomber, 2.grubby, 3.slivko, 4.moonglade, 5.elfi, 6. minigun
group D:1.MC 2. supernova 3.vortix 4. hasu 5. killer 6. real
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
August 17 2012 03:09 GMT
#43
GOOOOO KILLER!!!!!!

You can do this shit!
Chessz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States644 Posts
August 17 2012 03:20 GMT
#44
i'm really hoping for Grubby to advance!
Bouyt
Profile Joined March 2011
United States113 Posts
August 17 2012 03:21 GMT
#45
Minigun fighting
Root for ROOT
Walitgon
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia550 Posts
August 17 2012 03:56 GMT
#46
On August 17 2012 09:11 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 08:58 Dexington wrote:
On August 17 2012 08:50 RPR_Tempest wrote:
mOOnGLaDe advances 100%.

Do I have to remind people of what happened last time mOOnGLaDe went to IEM? TL polls showed he had like no votes to get out of the group and the official TL prediction said he would go 0-6.

Then he raped HuK and Tarson very, very hard to advance.

Do I need to remind you people about WCG as well?


That was last year, man. He is largely unproven outside of Australia. While he did win Oceania, none of those players are ever in international competitions so we have no way to gauge how well he will do.

So what if it was last year? He hasn't gotten any worse. Look at his opponents. mOOnGLaDe lives and breathes ZvZ so sLivko won't stand much of a chance.

Minigun 3-0ed IdrA, true, but mOOnGLaDe is better than IdrA right now since IdrA is just slumping like fuck right now.

Grubby will beat mOOnGLaDe, I reckon. ZvP is GLaDe's weakest and Grubby's PvZ is quite nice.

If Bly could almost beat Bomber, mOOnGLaDe can beat Bomber. I expect Bomber to be playing better today, but GLaDe still has a legitimate shot.

elfi's PvZ just plain isn't good. mOOnGLaDe has beaten him before, anyway.

Now, I'll get the inevitable responses calling me a fanboy, and yeah, mOOnGLaDe is my 2nd favourite player. But my fanboyism doesn't reflect my predictions in any way. My predictions are based off facts.



O lawd. I respect the fanboyism but I've got my cash all over Moonglade losing and I think this is a bit of a skewed view.

(1) Just yesterday TTPiG got DEMOLISHED by the international competition and PiG is somebody who has been beating Moonglade pretty regularly... Lol if you think Moonglade can take a game off Bomber...

(2) Slivko is an absolute monster... We're talking wins against HYUN, Stephano, Dimaga, Sheth. Yes, not only the top of EU, but amazing Koreans, and the King himself, Stephano. You really think Moonglade can bring it to Slivko? Not only do I believe he'll 'stand a chance', 2-0 to Slivko in my books.

(3) As for Moonglade's P v Z, he got pretty comprehensively beaten by xGKingLight in the recent WCS... And Light is somebody who... wait for it... I have beaten on ladder. Yes, me a scrub nub shitty-never-played-a-lan in my life zerg. Lettuce get some perspective... Grubby and Elfi aren't gods... But they're sitting atop EU (well Grubby is up there at least), with moutains of experience at Lans like this... They are the favourites against Glade.

(4) Minigun is rubbish so you can have that victory ^_^

Slivko 2-0 Moonglade
Elfi 2-1 Moonglade
Minigun 1-2 Moonglade
Bomber 2-0 Moonglade
Grubby 2-0 Moonglade




BRB laddering ^_^ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
UHF
Profile Joined April 2012
Australia58 Posts
August 17 2012 05:03 GMT
#47
On August 17 2012 12:56 Walitgon wrote:
O lawd. I respect the fanboyism but I've got my cash all over Moonglade losing and I think this is a bit of a skewed view.


None of us mOOnGLaDe fans are doubting the skill level of the rest of the group, he obviously he has a massive task in front of himself. Like i said earlier, GLaDe and PiG are coming off the back of a 3 day tournament that consisted of 12-14 hour days. They then jumped straight on a 28 hour flight to Germany. This isn't an excuse, but the people who know these guys will understand if they don't perform to their best - unfortunately everyone else would instantly label them bad.

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That was IEM VI - he made it out of groups and into the Quarterfinals where he lost to MaNa. In IEM V World Championships he took 4th spot after narrowly losing 2-3 to Squirtle in the 3rd place play-off.

He has the skill the get out of groups - it's just a matter of if he has recovered well enough from the past week.
Graphic designer & content creation | Always on the look-out for opportunities! | @NvUHF
LaaLaaLeevi
Profile Joined June 2011
200 Posts
August 17 2012 05:34 GMT
#48
1. Bomber 2. Slivko 3. Elfi

1. MC 2. Vortix 3. Real

Here we go folks!
Walitgon
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia550 Posts
August 17 2012 05:38 GMT
#49
Not a bad argument but still not convinced ^_^.

Huk and tarson are, in my opinion, not very good... Huk is a so all-inny, it was bound to be figured out sooner or later. Tarson's not great either.

His IEM V results were impressive, but that was like 1.5 years ago or something...

Even if you view these results at their hightest, it's two LANs and it's not even that good.

The guy is no slouch but I still don't think he'll do well..

BRB laddering ^_^ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
August 17 2012 05:45 GMT
#50
Moonglade to beat bomber!
EmmeCY
Profile Joined June 2012
Malaysia417 Posts
August 17 2012 05:47 GMT
#51
I see 3 koreans in Group D. Hmm...
Then again, I'm hoping Hasu will advance! gogogo!
starception
Profile Joined August 2012
205 Posts
August 17 2012 05:48 GMT
#52
Predictions:

C.
Bomber
Grubby
Moonglade

D.
MC
Supernova
Hasuobs
sickle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand656 Posts
August 17 2012 06:01 GMT
#53
C: Slivko, Grubby, Bomber
D: MC, VortiX, Supernova
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
August 17 2012 06:03 GMT
#54
gogo moonglade!
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
August 17 2012 06:03 GMT
#55
The top comment on the FOMOS article on IEM is "Greg Fields: fucking kimchiman" lol
IntelEM
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany128 Posts
August 17 2012 06:06 GMT
#56
A good and still slightly tired morning from gamescom. Right now everything is empty and quiet, but outside the waiting masses are already growing. Schoolchildren and students on holidays just seem to have nothing better to do
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
August 17 2012 06:13 GMT
#57
On August 17 2012 11:21 FeeLdAfuRy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 09:11 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On August 17 2012 08:58 Dexington wrote:
On August 17 2012 08:50 RPR_Tempest wrote:
mOOnGLaDe advances 100%.

Do I have to remind people of what happened last time mOOnGLaDe went to IEM? TL polls showed he had like no votes to get out of the group and the official TL prediction said he would go 0-6.

Then he raped HuK and Tarson very, very hard to advance.

Do I need to remind you people about WCG as well?


That was last year, man. He is largely unproven outside of Australia. While he did win Oceania, none of those players are ever in international competitions so we have no way to gauge how well he will do.

So what if it was last year? He hasn't gotten any worse. Look at his opponents. mOOnGLaDe lives and breathes ZvZ so sLivko won't stand much of a chance.

Minigun 3-0ed IdrA, true, but mOOnGLaDe is better than IdrA right now since IdrA is just slumping like fuck right now.

Grubby will beat mOOnGLaDe, I reckon. ZvP is GLaDe's weakest and Grubby's PvZ is quite nice.

If Bly could almost beat Bomber, mOOnGLaDe can beat Bomber. I expect Bomber to be playing better today, but GLaDe still has a legitimate shot.

elfi's PvZ just plain isn't good. mOOnGLaDe has beaten him before, anyway.

Now, I'll get the inevitable responses calling me a fanboy, and yeah, mOOnGLaDe is my 2nd favourite player. But my fanboyism doesn't reflect my predictions in any way. My predictions are based off facts.


Facts, really?

Glade is better than Idra because idra is slumping is a FACT?

Glade "lives and breaths ZvZ" therefore Slivko can't win is a FACT?


I'm cheering for Glade and all, but let's get some perspective.


Um, it IS a fact that IdrA is slumping. He used to be able to beat top Koreans and now he loses to random NA players.

I never said sLivko can't win, just that mOOnGLaDe is heavily favored.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
August 17 2012 06:14 GMT
#58
On August 17 2012 09:27 iAmJeffReY wrote:
Why, at these tournaments that have both day9 and tasteless, do they not have them cast together? I know it's probably been said as to why, but I'm curious.

In his Real Talk interview, Tasteless talked about this. It's about branding. He and Artosis have been consciously working hard on branding themselves as the casting archon, making Tastosis a thing. They're business partners as well as friends. Previously, they didn't want this to get muddled up with The Plott Brothers. Likewise, Day9 has established his own brand with Day9tv. Now that they're already so well established and known, Tasteless is open to casting with Day9, but when Artosis is there I really don't see a reason. They're great together!
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 06:19:08
August 17 2012 06:18 GMT
#59
On August 17 2012 12:56 Walitgon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 09:11 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On August 17 2012 08:58 Dexington wrote:
On August 17 2012 08:50 RPR_Tempest wrote:
mOOnGLaDe advances 100%.

Do I have to remind people of what happened last time mOOnGLaDe went to IEM? TL polls showed he had like no votes to get out of the group and the official TL prediction said he would go 0-6.

Then he raped HuK and Tarson very, very hard to advance.

Do I need to remind you people about WCG as well?


That was last year, man. He is largely unproven outside of Australia. While he did win Oceania, none of those players are ever in international competitions so we have no way to gauge how well he will do.

So what if it was last year? He hasn't gotten any worse. Look at his opponents. mOOnGLaDe lives and breathes ZvZ so sLivko won't stand much of a chance.

Minigun 3-0ed IdrA, true, but mOOnGLaDe is better than IdrA right now since IdrA is just slumping like fuck right now.

Grubby will beat mOOnGLaDe, I reckon. ZvP is GLaDe's weakest and Grubby's PvZ is quite nice.

If Bly could almost beat Bomber, mOOnGLaDe can beat Bomber. I expect Bomber to be playing better today, but GLaDe still has a legitimate shot.

elfi's PvZ just plain isn't good. mOOnGLaDe has beaten him before, anyway.

Now, I'll get the inevitable responses calling me a fanboy, and yeah, mOOnGLaDe is my 2nd favourite player. But my fanboyism doesn't reflect my predictions in any way. My predictions are based off facts.



O lawd. I respect the fanboyism but I've got my cash all over Moonglade losing and I think this is a bit of a skewed view.

(1) Just yesterday TTPiG got DEMOLISHED by the international competition and PiG is somebody who has been beating Moonglade pretty regularly... Lol if you think Moonglade can take a game off Bomber...

(2) Slivko is an absolute monster... We're talking wins against HYUN, Stephano, Dimaga, Sheth. Yes, not only the top of EU, but amazing Koreans, and the King himself, Stephano. You really think Moonglade can bring it to Slivko? Not only do I believe he'll 'stand a chance', 2-0 to Slivko in my books.

(3) As for Moonglade's P v Z, he got pretty comprehensively beaten by xGKingLight in the recent WCS... And Light is somebody who... wait for it... I have beaten on ladder. Yes, me a scrub nub shitty-never-played-a-lan in my life zerg. Lettuce get some perspective... Grubby and Elfi aren't gods... But they're sitting atop EU (well Grubby is up there at least), with moutains of experience at Lans like this... They are the favourites against Glade.

(4) Minigun is rubbish so you can have that victory ^_^

Slivko 2-0 Moonglade
Elfi 2-1 Moonglade
Minigun 1-2 Moonglade
Bomber 2-0 Moonglade
Grubby 2-0 Moonglade






PiG got beaten by Light, not mOOnGLaDe. mOOnGLaDe hasn't played Light in a tournament in a while. PiG didn't beat mOOnGLaDe regularly, they trade series fairly evenly. And PiG's ZvZ may be even with mOOnGLaDes, but mOOnGLaDe's other match-ups are far superior.

And I already backed up why I think mOOnGLaDe can beat Bomber. Bly could beat him, so can GLaDe, even if Bomber is going to be playing better today. Even if he loses to Bomber and Grubby he's still 3-2.

sLivko beating those players is impressive. Good thing GLaDe has done the same thing. Not in tournaments, but he has beaten people who have beaten NesTea, Stephano and more, etc, in addition to mOOnGLaDe having GM MMR on Korea meaning he faces very, very good Zergs.

I actually love playing this game. The whole "THIS GUY IS GOING TO WIN AND HERE'S WHY" and the subsequent humilation/FUCKYEAAAAHness of the outcome. Don't take any of this too seriously, it's 9Gag style: Just for fun.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 17 2012 06:22 GMT
#60
On August 17 2012 15:18 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 12:56 Walitgon wrote:
On August 17 2012 09:11 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On August 17 2012 08:58 Dexington wrote:
On August 17 2012 08:50 RPR_Tempest wrote:
mOOnGLaDe advances 100%.

Do I have to remind people of what happened last time mOOnGLaDe went to IEM? TL polls showed he had like no votes to get out of the group and the official TL prediction said he would go 0-6.

Then he raped HuK and Tarson very, very hard to advance.

Do I need to remind you people about WCG as well?


That was last year, man. He is largely unproven outside of Australia. While he did win Oceania, none of those players are ever in international competitions so we have no way to gauge how well he will do.

So what if it was last year? He hasn't gotten any worse. Look at his opponents. mOOnGLaDe lives and breathes ZvZ so sLivko won't stand much of a chance.

Minigun 3-0ed IdrA, true, but mOOnGLaDe is better than IdrA right now since IdrA is just slumping like fuck right now.

Grubby will beat mOOnGLaDe, I reckon. ZvP is GLaDe's weakest and Grubby's PvZ is quite nice.

If Bly could almost beat Bomber, mOOnGLaDe can beat Bomber. I expect Bomber to be playing better today, but GLaDe still has a legitimate shot.

elfi's PvZ just plain isn't good. mOOnGLaDe has beaten him before, anyway.

Now, I'll get the inevitable responses calling me a fanboy, and yeah, mOOnGLaDe is my 2nd favourite player. But my fanboyism doesn't reflect my predictions in any way. My predictions are based off facts.



O lawd. I respect the fanboyism but I've got my cash all over Moonglade losing and I think this is a bit of a skewed view.

(1) Just yesterday TTPiG got DEMOLISHED by the international competition and PiG is somebody who has been beating Moonglade pretty regularly... Lol if you think Moonglade can take a game off Bomber...

(2) Slivko is an absolute monster... We're talking wins against HYUN, Stephano, Dimaga, Sheth. Yes, not only the top of EU, but amazing Koreans, and the King himself, Stephano. You really think Moonglade can bring it to Slivko? Not only do I believe he'll 'stand a chance', 2-0 to Slivko in my books.

(3) As for Moonglade's P v Z, he got pretty comprehensively beaten by xGKingLight in the recent WCS... And Light is somebody who... wait for it... I have beaten on ladder. Yes, me a scrub nub shitty-never-played-a-lan in my life zerg. Lettuce get some perspective... Grubby and Elfi aren't gods... But they're sitting atop EU (well Grubby is up there at least), with moutains of experience at Lans like this... They are the favourites against Glade.

(4) Minigun is rubbish so you can have that victory ^_^

Slivko 2-0 Moonglade
Elfi 2-1 Moonglade
Minigun 1-2 Moonglade
Bomber 2-0 Moonglade
Grubby 2-0 Moonglade






PiG got beaten by Light, not mOOnGLaDe. mOOnGLaDe hasn't played Light in a tournament in a while. PiG didn't beat mOOnGLaDe regularly, they trade series fairly evenly. And PiG's ZvZ may be even with mOOnGLaDes, but mOOnGLaDe's other match-ups are far superior.

And I already backed up why I think mOOnGLaDe can beat Bomber. Bly could beat him, so can GLaDe, even if Bomber is going to be playing better today. Even if he loses to Bomber and Grubby he's still 3-2.

sLivko beating those players is impressive. Good thing GLaDe has done the same thing. Not in tournaments, but he has beaten people who have beaten NesTea, Stephano and more, etc, in addition to mOOnGLaDe having GM MMR on Korea meaning he faces very, very good Zergs.

I actually love playing this game. The whole "THIS GUY IS GOING TO WIN AND HERE'S WHY" and the subsequent humilation/FUCKYEAAAAHness of the outcome. Don't take any of this too seriously, it's 9Gag style: Just for fun.

u cant be serious with the "he beat someone who beat someone" logic, dumbest thing ever, say JYP beats symbol but someone beats JYP in tvp they become as good as JYP... lol
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