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BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 10:52:16
August 16 2012 10:51 GMT
#781
On August 16 2012 19:48 ChoiSulli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:40 catabowl wrote:
Okay people. All this "Elephant" talk is just plain stupid. It's pretty simple that the KESPA player would do well early.

Their opponents have a ton of games they can research which the opponents do not have the same luxury.

Lets give this a month or so and then you can put up the elephant in the room jokes. Remember when foreigners were beating Koreans in SC2 about a year ago? Yeah, now look at it. Swung back the other way.



Umm thats not the reason we knew they would do well. When SC2 came out all those that couldnt cut it in BW switched over and one A-team called MVP. Those that switched over have been able to dominate the scene. So obviously skill sets transferred over for the most part. So once the switch was announced just based on who was on top in SC2, made it pretty clear that the best BW players will eventually be on top in SC2. The only question is how long, how much practice it is going to take until they figure out the game because once they do their superior multitasking and the speed at which they think their way through games will carry them to the top, just like in BW.


MVP was really a B team player but was considered A team because his team had such crappy terran players.
8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
August 16 2012 10:51 GMT
#782
Woooow Happy making a huge build order mistake by getting supply blocked...this is horrendous ~_~
Suppy fan | ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ WELL MET ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ | http://www.twitter.com/8mmspikes
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
August 16 2012 10:51 GMT
#783
On August 16 2012 19:50 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:50 AxionSteel wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:48 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:46 AxionSteel wrote:
If anyone doesn't fail miserably and crumble under the pressure it will be the stonefaced Happy.


Someone didn't see his match vs Tails..

I did actually, it was disgraceful. Was more referring to the players who are getting nervous of playing against KESPA players


Pretty sure nervous isn't a function that happy can compile.

Looks like I spoke too soon, miserable fail already lol
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
August 16 2012 10:52 GMT
#784
Supply block of the year award lmao
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
August 16 2012 10:52 GMT
#785
On August 16 2012 19:48 opterown wrote:
http://leveltory.com/14671

Prelims have been announced for 5 & 6th September!

Masters 1200+ points can participate - and KeSPA players are participating!

Registration opens August 24th to 27th


Have they confirmed they are participating? Or is it just they "can" participate if they want to?
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7979 Posts
August 16 2012 10:52 GMT
#786
and now a 27 supply block, gsl player choking continues
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
August 16 2012 10:53 GMT
#787
Happy is slumping and nervous too.
Never make a hydralisk.
Williammm
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia908 Posts
August 16 2012 10:53 GMT
#788
Happy wtf lol

is he even trying? ...
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 16 2012 10:53 GMT
#789
Taking lessons from thebest I see
Kala23
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany230 Posts
August 16 2012 10:53 GMT
#790
i've been watching sc2 for more than a year now (didn't watch any bw after i stopped playing 2004) and i was entertained. But i always wondered what would happen if every BW Pro would switch.
My opinion was that kespa players would need a lot of time to catch up and after 6++ months or so top GSL and top Kespa would be equally represented in the top 10.
Clearly i was wrong. Somehow there is no visible progress for a couple of the best gsl players. No one is blowing me away anymore like DRG did when he came up.

btw how many Kespa players are there? How many of them will stick around?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 16 2012 10:53 GMT
#791
On August 16 2012 19:51 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:48 ChoiSulli wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:40 catabowl wrote:
Okay people. All this "Elephant" talk is just plain stupid. It's pretty simple that the KESPA player would do well early.

Their opponents have a ton of games they can research which the opponents do not have the same luxury.

Lets give this a month or so and then you can put up the elephant in the room jokes. Remember when foreigners were beating Koreans in SC2 about a year ago? Yeah, now look at it. Swung back the other way.



Umm thats not the reason we knew they would do well. When SC2 came out all those that couldnt cut it in BW switched over and one A-team called MVP. Those that switched over have been able to dominate the scene. So obviously skill sets transferred over for the most part. So once the switch was announced just based on who was on top in SC2, made it pretty clear that the best BW players will eventually be on top in SC2. The only question is how long, how much practice it is going to take until they figure out the game because once they do their superior multitasking and the speed at which they think their way through games will carry them to the top, just like in BW.


MVP was really a B team player but was considered A team because his team had such crappy terran players.


he was really not that bad -_- come on he beat flash in a macro tvt in 2010.
Pasargadae
Profile Joined March 2012
Korea (South)173 Posts
August 16 2012 10:53 GMT
#792
On August 16 2012 19:46 Klogon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:40 Pasargadae wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:39 Klogon wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:33 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Was very impressive how Effort kept Gumiho at bay with fewer units. Gumiho seemed a lot worse than usual tho. Starting to wonder if the kespa guys win by superior mechanics more than the gom guys losing by mistakes.


I do think people are overstating the mistakes of the GSL players to some degree (I admit some of the mistakes are pretty bad) as when we watch these match ups, I think the players go under a bit more scrutiny than if they were just playing their GSL peers. Kespa has caught up to the standard level of the GOM pros now. Champion level? Probably not, but maybe soon. These guys were disappointing just a month ago, and now they are just total ballers. Kind of nuts.


Are you surprised?


If you asked me 3 months ago, I would say no. But after seeing some disappointing play in SPL, I can say I am indeed surprised at how fast they caught up. I thought something like beating DRG and then Gumiho back to back would happen about 2-3 months from now (basically beginning 2013). Very impressed. These guys are talented.


I was always hesitant to gauge Kespa from PL games...practicing both games really is just a huge waste of time. But then again, I'm also surprised at how quickly it happened.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
August 16 2012 10:54 GMT
#793
On August 16 2012 19:50 8mmspikes wrote:
I'm just glad the KeSPA plaers have shaken up the Korean scene a bit...to be honest GOM v GOM players has been getting a bit stale. Having a lot more fun watching this tournament because its so unpredictable

Indeed. It's a changing dynamic that is fun to watch until HOTS comes out haha.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 16 2012 10:54 GMT
#794
Happy was so good some months ago ><
This is so depressing to watch haha.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 16 2012 10:54 GMT
#795
On August 16 2012 19:51 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:48 ChoiSulli wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:40 catabowl wrote:
Okay people. All this "Elephant" talk is just plain stupid. It's pretty simple that the KESPA player would do well early.

Their opponents have a ton of games they can research which the opponents do not have the same luxury.

Lets give this a month or so and then you can put up the elephant in the room jokes. Remember when foreigners were beating Koreans in SC2 about a year ago? Yeah, now look at it. Swung back the other way.



Umm thats not the reason we knew they would do well. When SC2 came out all those that couldnt cut it in BW switched over and one A-team called MVP. Those that switched over have been able to dominate the scene. So obviously skill sets transferred over for the most part. So once the switch was announced just based on who was on top in SC2, made it pretty clear that the best BW players will eventually be on top in SC2. The only question is how long, how much practice it is going to take until they figure out the game because once they do their superior multitasking and the speed at which they think their way through games will carry them to the top, just like in BW.


MVP was really a B team player but was considered A team because his team had such crappy terran players.


Lol, ouch.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 16 2012 10:54 GMT
#796
On August 16 2012 19:52 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:48 opterown wrote:
http://leveltory.com/14671

Prelims have been announced for 5 & 6th September!

Masters 1200+ points can participate - and KeSPA players are participating!

Registration opens August 24th to 27th


Have they confirmed they are participating? Or is it just they "can" participate if they want to?

as of now i think it's "they can" but no reason for them not to haha
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Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 10:54:51
August 16 2012 10:54 GMT
#797
On August 16 2012 19:49 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:46 Squeegy wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:44 mrtomjones wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:40 catabowl wrote:
Okay people. All this "Elephant" talk is just plain stupid. It's pretty simple that the KESPA player would do well early.

Their opponents have a ton of games they can research which the opponents do not have the same luxury.

Lets give this a month or so and then you can put up the elephant in the room jokes. Remember when foreigners were beating Koreans in SC2 about a year ago? Yeah, now look at it. Swung back the other way.

I'm so fucking sick of these threads. So disgusting everytime a Kespa player wins the troll baiters come out to play. Just fucking cheer for your players you like without insulting literally every player that people who havnt watched much or any BW have followed for 2 years. It is ridiculously disrespectful. I really hope this goes the way of the USA Stephano chants considering how mods looked at that joke.


The irony is of course that the guys rooting for Kespa are also acknowledging the play by GSL. The GSL fans are saying things like "wow GSL player X plays so bad".


And by making generalisations like this and lumping everyone into the 'GSL fans' and 'Kespa fans' categories, the LR thread becomes a fucking wankfest.

Best ignore Squeegy, he said that if you came here because of sc2 you should feel lesser then the people that came here because of BW/SC.
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
August 16 2012 10:54 GMT
#798
A. a player who started playing soccer 5 years ago.
B. a player who started playing soccer 10 years ago.

Which do you want for your national team?
...
Who cares as long as one is better now...
regizer239
Profile Joined March 2012
Guam327 Posts
August 16 2012 10:54 GMT
#799
On August 16 2012 19:53 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:51 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:48 ChoiSulli wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:40 catabowl wrote:
Okay people. All this "Elephant" talk is just plain stupid. It's pretty simple that the KESPA player would do well early.

Their opponents have a ton of games they can research which the opponents do not have the same luxury.

Lets give this a month or so and then you can put up the elephant in the room jokes. Remember when foreigners were beating Koreans in SC2 about a year ago? Yeah, now look at it. Swung back the other way.



Umm thats not the reason we knew they would do well. When SC2 came out all those that couldnt cut it in BW switched over and one A-team called MVP. Those that switched over have been able to dominate the scene. So obviously skill sets transferred over for the most part. So once the switch was announced just based on who was on top in SC2, made it pretty clear that the best BW players will eventually be on top in SC2. The only question is how long, how much practice it is going to take until they figure out the game because once they do their superior multitasking and the speed at which they think their way through games will carry them to the top, just like in BW.


MVP was really a B team player but was considered A team because his team had such crappy terran players.


he was really not that bad -_- come on he beat flash in a macro tvt in 2010.


Yeah he was decently good before he quit but beating flash was his only accomplishment in BW
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 16 2012 10:55 GMT
#800
On August 16 2012 19:54 regizer239 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:53 Dodgin wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:51 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:48 ChoiSulli wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:40 catabowl wrote:
Okay people. All this "Elephant" talk is just plain stupid. It's pretty simple that the KESPA player would do well early.

Their opponents have a ton of games they can research which the opponents do not have the same luxury.

Lets give this a month or so and then you can put up the elephant in the room jokes. Remember when foreigners were beating Koreans in SC2 about a year ago? Yeah, now look at it. Swung back the other way.



Umm thats not the reason we knew they would do well. When SC2 came out all those that couldnt cut it in BW switched over and one A-team called MVP. Those that switched over have been able to dominate the scene. So obviously skill sets transferred over for the most part. So once the switch was announced just based on who was on top in SC2, made it pretty clear that the best BW players will eventually be on top in SC2. The only question is how long, how much practice it is going to take until they figure out the game because once they do their superior multitasking and the speed at which they think their way through games will carry them to the top, just like in BW.


MVP was really a B team player but was considered A team because his team had such crappy terran players.


he was really not that bad -_- come on he beat flash in a macro tvt in 2010.


Yeah he was decently good before he quit but beating flash was his only accomplishment in BW


He also took a series off stork but i believe stork was in a bad slump at the time, so it's not really regarded as a big deal.
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