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The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
August 16 2012 10:49 GMT
#761
On August 16 2012 19:46 Squeegy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:44 mrtomjones wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:40 catabowl wrote:
Okay people. All this "Elephant" talk is just plain stupid. It's pretty simple that the KESPA player would do well early.

Their opponents have a ton of games they can research which the opponents do not have the same luxury.

Lets give this a month or so and then you can put up the elephant in the room jokes. Remember when foreigners were beating Koreans in SC2 about a year ago? Yeah, now look at it. Swung back the other way.

I'm so fucking sick of these threads. So disgusting everytime a Kespa player wins the troll baiters come out to play. Just fucking cheer for your players you like without insulting literally every player that people who havnt watched much or any BW have followed for 2 years. It is ridiculously disrespectful. I really hope this goes the way of the USA Stephano chants considering how mods looked at that joke.


The irony is of course that the guys rooting for Kespa are also acknowledging the play by GSL. The GSL fans are saying things like "wow GSL player X plays so bad".


And by making generalisations like this and lumping everyone into the 'GSL fans' and 'Kespa fans' categories, the LR thread becomes a fucking wankfest.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
August 16 2012 10:49 GMT
#762
On August 16 2012 19:47 RubiksCube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:44 Grumbels wrote:
All you people making puns about reality, hero and effort, try making one with soulkey to challenge yourself.


Seems like the GOM players lost the sole key to success.

Congrats!
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 16 2012 10:49 GMT
#763
kespa players are going to do code A qualifiers for next season huh? epic. can't wait to see them play GSL.
ImperialTea
Profile Joined June 2011
France187 Posts
August 16 2012 10:49 GMT
#764
Yay LG vs Samsung, gogogo corporation rivalries :D
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 10:50:10
August 16 2012 10:49 GMT
#765
On August 16 2012 19:44 Dodgin wrote:
I don't get it do the gom coaches not know how to find proleague vods? there should be some games to study.


Ofc, that's not the reason they lose. Either they don't prepare as well as Kespa players before a series, or they are just not as good as them. Kespa players knows exactly how to prepare a series in every detail. GSL players usually just wing it in the series.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
August 16 2012 10:49 GMT
#766
On August 16 2012 19:49 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:47 RubiksCube wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:44 Grumbels wrote:
All you people making puns about reality, hero and effort, try making one with soulkey to challenge yourself.


Seems like the GOM players lost the sole key to success.

Congrats!


Mine was way better
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
August 16 2012 10:49 GMT
#767
On August 16 2012 19:48 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:41 pdd wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:37 thousand wrote:
So what is the GSL vs KeSPA score right now?

Curious 2-0 Sun
aLive 2-0 Jaedong
Gumiho 2-0 Soulkey
HerO 2-0 Effort
Puzzle 2-1 HerO[jOin]
Yugioh 0-2 Reality
Hack 1-2 RorO
Puzzle 2-1 Reality
Leenock 1-2 RorO
Horror 1-2 Sun
sC 1-2 Jaedong
CoCa 0-2 Soulkey
DRG 1-2 Effort
Yugioh 0-2 HerO[jOin]
Tails 1-2 HerO[jOin]
Gumiho 0-2 Effort

GSL 18-22 KeSPA
Kespa players also defeated in the preliminaries:

Nestea, Symbol, Bomber, Jjakji, Tassadar, Inca in PvP, Terius, Brown etc

Im afraid of GSL players so many players slumping :p
Stork[gm]
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 16 2012 10:49 GMT
#768
On August 16 2012 19:46 Squeegy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:44 mrtomjones wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:40 catabowl wrote:
Okay people. All this "Elephant" talk is just plain stupid. It's pretty simple that the KESPA player would do well early.

Their opponents have a ton of games they can research which the opponents do not have the same luxury.

Lets give this a month or so and then you can put up the elephant in the room jokes. Remember when foreigners were beating Koreans in SC2 about a year ago? Yeah, now look at it. Swung back the other way.

I'm so fucking sick of these threads. So disgusting everytime a Kespa player wins the troll baiters come out to play. Just fucking cheer for your players you like without insulting literally every player that people who havnt watched much or any BW have followed for 2 years. It is ridiculously disrespectful. I really hope this goes the way of the USA Stephano chants considering how mods looked at that joke.


The irony is of course that the guys rooting for Kespa are also acknowledging the play by GSL. The GSL fans are saying things like "wow GSL player X plays so bad".

The irony is that you are picking out only the things that you dislike. I have seen many comments about how they are getting much better. Perhaps you should read interviews by Jaedong or Soulkey and see what they think of their skills or of the pressure on Gom players. The excuse of pressure is completely legitimate. Kespa players are getting MUCH better and some are even truly shining. The shit talk isn't needed either way.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
August 16 2012 10:50 GMT
#769
On August 16 2012 19:48 Fragile51 wrote:
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On August 16 2012 19:46 AxionSteel wrote:
If anyone doesn't fail miserably and crumble under the pressure it will be the stonefaced Happy.


Someone didn't see his match vs Tails..

I did actually, it was disgraceful. Was more referring to the players who are getting nervous of playing against KESPA players
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 16 2012 10:50 GMT
#770
On August 16 2012 19:49 kaokentake wrote:
jaedong v genius is the ultimate elephant test

calling it now there should be 0% chance of jaedong winning this one. genius was DRGs practice partner during DRG's god period and is a beta veteran who isnt slumping

jaedong has a ZERO PERCENT CHANCE

incoming dead elephant!!!


Genius has been seriously slacking off ever since leaving MVP. It could go either way to be honest. The series i thought was the most set in stone was that gumiho was going to beat effort without much trouble.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
August 16 2012 10:50 GMT
#771
On August 16 2012 19:46 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:42 8mmspikes wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:41 pdd wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:37 thousand wrote:
So what is the GSL vs KeSPA score right now?

Curious 2-0 Sun
aLive 2-0 Jaedong
Gumiho 2-0 Soulkey
HerO 2-0 Effort
Puzzle 2-1 HerO[jOin]
Yugioh 0-2 Reality
Hack 1-2 RorO
Horror 1-2 Sun
sC 1-2 Jaedong
CoCa 0-2 Soulkey
DRG 1-2 Effort
Yugioh 0-2 HerO[jOin]
Tails 1-2 HerO[jOin]
Gumiho 0-2 Effort

GSL 15-19 KeSPA


Wow thats quite the turn around from GSL 11-4 KeSPA from the ro32... GSL players have only won 4 games vs KeSPA players since then O_O

Granted the players you expect to dominate from GOM won and the players that trip over their own feet outside of GSTL did poorly so I'm not terribly surprised. Just pleasantly surprised.

Well King of Code A and GSTL reject Yugioh lost both his games to KeSPA players 0-2.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
August 16 2012 10:50 GMT
#772
On August 16 2012 19:48 Dakure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:41 regizer239 wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:40 catabowl wrote:
Okay people. All this "Elephant" talk is just plain stupid. It's pretty simple that the KESPA player would do well early.

Their opponents have a ton of games they can research which the opponents do not have the same luxury.

Lets give this a month or so and then you can put up the elephant in the room jokes. Remember when foreigners were beating Koreans in SC2 about a year ago? Yeah, now look at it. Swung back the other way.


I don't think you understand who Kespa players are

Foreigners of a year ago = GOM players of now.
Koreans of a year ago = Kespa players of now.

So yeah sure, let's give it a month or two.

What does that make foreigners now then!!?
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 16 2012 10:50 GMT
#773
On August 16 2012 19:50 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:48 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:46 AxionSteel wrote:
If anyone doesn't fail miserably and crumble under the pressure it will be the stonefaced Happy.


Someone didn't see his match vs Tails..

I did actually, it was disgraceful. Was more referring to the players who are getting nervous of playing against KESPA players


Pretty sure nervous isn't a function that happy can compile.
8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
August 16 2012 10:50 GMT
#774
I'm just glad the KeSPA plaers have shaken up the Korean scene a bit...to be honest GOM v GOM players has been getting a bit stale. Having a lot more fun watching this tournament because its so unpredictable
Suppy fan | ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ WELL MET ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ | http://www.twitter.com/8mmspikes
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
August 16 2012 10:50 GMT
#775
On August 16 2012 19:50 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:49 kaokentake wrote:
jaedong v genius is the ultimate elephant test

calling it now there should be 0% chance of jaedong winning this one. genius was DRGs practice partner during DRG's god period and is a beta veteran who isnt slumping

jaedong has a ZERO PERCENT CHANCE

incoming dead elephant!!!


Genius has been seriously slacking off ever since leaving MVP. It could go either way to be honest. The series i thought was the most set in stone was that gumiho was going to beat effort without much trouble.


After watching his micro against DRG... I now think effort can do ANYTHING.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 16 2012 10:51 GMT
#776
On August 16 2012 19:48 Art.FeeL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:46 bo1b wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:43 BackSideAttack wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:42 ElephantBaby wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:40 catabowl wrote:
Okay people. All this "Elephant" talk is just plain stupid. It's pretty simple that the KESPA player would do well early.

Their opponents have a ton of games they can research which the opponents do not have the same luxury.

Lets give this a month or so and then you can put up the elephant in the room jokes. Remember when foreigners were beating Koreans in SC2 about a year ago? Yeah, now look at it. Swung back the other way.


I don't recall anytime foreigners beating Koreans consistantly.


Cuz the Kespa players have better mechanics than the GSL players, whereas the foreigners have worse mechanics than GSL players. Just look at how Hero held that 4 gate by tails.

I really hate it when people simplify Kespa players as being better simply because of mechanics.


Did he even say that they are better ''simply because'' of mechanics? He just emphasized it, but nowhere did he say that was the only reason

That's why I said simplified the reason, it completely removes other factors which are arguably more important in sc2.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 16 2012 10:51 GMT
#777
On August 16 2012 19:49 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:48 figq wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:41 pdd wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:37 thousand wrote:
So what is the GSL vs KeSPA score right now?

Curious 2-0 Sun
aLive 2-0 Jaedong
Gumiho 2-0 Soulkey
HerO 2-0 Effort
Puzzle 2-1 HerO[jOin]
Yugioh 0-2 Reality
Hack 1-2 RorO
Puzzle 2-1 Reality
Leenock 1-2 RorO
Horror 1-2 Sun
sC 1-2 Jaedong
CoCa 0-2 Soulkey
DRG 1-2 Effort
Yugioh 0-2 HerO[jOin]
Tails 1-2 HerO[jOin]
Gumiho 0-2 Effort

GSL 18-22 KeSPA
Kespa players also defeated in the preliminaries:

Nestea, Symbol, Bomber, Jjakji, Tassadar, Inca in PvP, Terius, Brown etc

Im afraid of GSL players so many players slumping :p

You realize that other than the first 4 names none of those players have ever done anything worth note other than one getting destroyed in the most one sided GSL finals of history and other than Symbol and to a lesser extent Jikaji those who were once good are now not like they were then. Bomber and Nestea dont exactly inspire fear anymore.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 16 2012 10:51 GMT
#778
On August 16 2012 19:49 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:46 Squeegy wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:44 mrtomjones wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:40 catabowl wrote:
Okay people. All this "Elephant" talk is just plain stupid. It's pretty simple that the KESPA player would do well early.

Their opponents have a ton of games they can research which the opponents do not have the same luxury.

Lets give this a month or so and then you can put up the elephant in the room jokes. Remember when foreigners were beating Koreans in SC2 about a year ago? Yeah, now look at it. Swung back the other way.

I'm so fucking sick of these threads. So disgusting everytime a Kespa player wins the troll baiters come out to play. Just fucking cheer for your players you like without insulting literally every player that people who havnt watched much or any BW have followed for 2 years. It is ridiculously disrespectful. I really hope this goes the way of the USA Stephano chants considering how mods looked at that joke.


The irony is of course that the guys rooting for Kespa are also acknowledging the play by GSL. The GSL fans are saying things like "wow GSL player X plays so bad".


And by making generalisations like this and lumping everyone into the 'GSL fans' and 'Kespa fans' categories, the LR thread becomes a fucking wankfest.


It has been the whole time this tournament has existed. Some saying "OK" to their GSL players (except a notable few crushing their opponents) and a majority fapping whenever any KeSPA player winning or doing something impressive. It's like Korean vs Stephano.
The Bomber boy
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
August 16 2012 10:51 GMT
#779
On August 16 2012 19:49 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:46 Squeegy wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:44 mrtomjones wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:40 catabowl wrote:
Okay people. All this "Elephant" talk is just plain stupid. It's pretty simple that the KESPA player would do well early.

Their opponents have a ton of games they can research which the opponents do not have the same luxury.

Lets give this a month or so and then you can put up the elephant in the room jokes. Remember when foreigners were beating Koreans in SC2 about a year ago? Yeah, now look at it. Swung back the other way.

I'm so fucking sick of these threads. So disgusting everytime a Kespa player wins the troll baiters come out to play. Just fucking cheer for your players you like without insulting literally every player that people who havnt watched much or any BW have followed for 2 years. It is ridiculously disrespectful. I really hope this goes the way of the USA Stephano chants considering how mods looked at that joke.


The irony is of course that the guys rooting for Kespa are also acknowledging the play by GSL. The GSL fans are saying things like "wow GSL player X plays so bad".


And by making generalisations like this and lumping everyone into the 'GSL fans' and 'Kespa fans' categories, the LR thread becomes a fucking wankfest.


Quoting Squeegy on anything makes the thread a wankfest.

---

looks like banshees from Happy...awful awful supply block.
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
August 16 2012 10:51 GMT
#780
dat supply block
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