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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 16 2012 10:44 GMT
#721
I don't get it do the gom coaches not know how to find proleague vods? there should be some games to study.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
August 16 2012 10:44 GMT
#722
On August 16 2012 19:42 8mmspikes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:41 pdd wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:37 thousand wrote:
So what is the GSL vs KeSPA score right now?

Curious 2-0 Sun
aLive 2-0 Jaedong
Gumiho 2-0 Soulkey
HerO 2-0 Effort
Puzzle 2-1 HerO[jOin]
Yugioh 0-2 Reality
Hack 1-2 RorO
Horror 1-2 Sun
sC 1-2 Jaedong
CoCa 0-2 Soulkey
DRG 1-2 Effort
Yugioh 0-2 HerO[jOin]
Tails 1-2 HerO[jOin]
Gumiho 0-2 Effort

GSL 15-19 KeSPA


Wow thats quite the turn around from GSL 11-4 KeSPA from the ro32... GSL players have only won 4 games vs KeSPA players since then O_O

Actually I missed Leenock Roro and Reality Puzzle from the original post. I've edited it. Scores are 18-22 now.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 16 2012 10:44 GMT
#723
On August 16 2012 19:40 catabowl wrote:
Okay people. All this "Elephant" talk is just plain stupid. It's pretty simple that the KESPA player would do well early.

Their opponents have a ton of games they can research which the opponents do not have the same luxury.

Lets give this a month or so and then you can put up the elephant in the room jokes. Remember when foreigners were beating Koreans in SC2 about a year ago? Yeah, now look at it. Swung back the other way.

I'm so fucking sick of these threads. So disgusting everytime a Kespa player wins the troll baiters come out to play. Just fucking cheer for your players you like without insulting literally every player that people who havnt watched much or any BW have followed for 2 years. It is ridiculously disrespectful. I really hope this goes the way of the USA Stephano chants considering how mods looked at that joke.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 16 2012 10:45 GMT
#724
On August 16 2012 19:43 BackSideAttack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:42 ElephantBaby wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:40 catabowl wrote:
Okay people. All this "Elephant" talk is just plain stupid. It's pretty simple that the KESPA player would do well early.

Their opponents have a ton of games they can research which the opponents do not have the same luxury.

Lets give this a month or so and then you can put up the elephant in the room jokes. Remember when foreigners were beating Koreans in SC2 about a year ago? Yeah, now look at it. Swung back the other way.


I don't recall anytime foreigners beating Koreans consistantly.


Cuz the Kespa players have better mechanics than the GSL players, whereas the foreigners have worse mechanics than GSL players. Just look at how Hero held that 4 gate by tails.


To be fair a 3 stalker rush should never ever lose to a 4 gate if executed properly lol, it's like the go to build if you want to hold off gateway aggression.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 16 2012 10:45 GMT
#725
On August 16 2012 19:42 Diizzy wrote:
i dont get why people are downplaying the loser bracket. i mean drg coca and gumiho not good players or something? i do thin some people do take this kespa vs gom too seriously though. i mean its like foreigners vs koreans. people will pick sides and people shoudl just have fun with it instead of seriously arguing why the other one is better.


It's more like their decision making has gone to the crapper. The stress put on them shouldn't affect them this much. Every time they lose I am disgusted by the comments in a LR thread, so I cheer for my GOM players, but this is starting to become old. It's like their internal timers for when hives ++ come out has been replaced with a hello kitty island adventure disc featuring dancing cats meeting a butcher's knife.
The Bomber boy
sertman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States540 Posts
August 16 2012 10:45 GMT
#726
On August 16 2012 19:44 KiNGxXx wrote:
Good thing is while Kespa players are winning BW fans are forgetting they actually hate sc2 :D


its funny, when people stop purposely expending energy into hating a game they start to enjoy it? whodathunk
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
August 16 2012 10:45 GMT
#727
On August 16 2012 19:43 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:40 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:39 bo1b wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:38 Vindicare605 wrote:
You know, TvZ looks more and more like Brood War TvZ every day when I see games like that.

Brood war tvz was a series of early pools? My memories of tvz are slightly different.


I can't tell you how many TvZs ive seen end with the Terran dying because he went for a greedy FE build and the Zerg went for an early build.

You hardly ever saw that in SC2 up until recently, it was a dynamic that's only now become prominent in the metagame. Terrans gotta watch out for that shit, don't just assume every Zerg is gonna 15 hatch you.

It still happens in sc2, just fails most of the time


I know, because only recently has it become more common for Terrans to go for 1 rax expands before second depot or CC first builds in the match up. Prior to the queen change, nearly every Terran opening involved an early wall off, which is why 15 hatching became so dominant.

With the shift in the metagame to more greedy openings from terrans and the Zerg counter of early pool builds, the early game TvZ in SC2 now more closely resembles the one from BW.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
-IeZaeL-
Profile Joined December 2007
Spain327 Posts
August 16 2012 10:45 GMT
#728
On August 16 2012 19:38 Corrosive wrote:
well im out. waste of my time


looooooooooool wc3 player???xDDDDD
aka:Wizards-> FnaticMSI ->IImg.IeZaeL ->MYM.IeZaeL . Actually teamless,Top40-80 GM Europe.Twitter: @IeZaeL_7
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
August 16 2012 10:45 GMT
#729
On August 16 2012 19:44 Grumbels wrote:
All you people making puns about reality, hero and effort, try making one with soulkey to challenge yourself.


I was putting some Effort in to hooking in with my girlfriends mum. After a while, Reality hit me, and I realised I couldn't be the Hero my girlfriends mum wanted me to be... I couldn't even satisfy her needs...but I officially gave her my Soulkey.

???????????? :O
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Hazzyboy
Profile Joined January 2012
Estonia555 Posts
August 16 2012 10:46 GMT
#730
On August 16 2012 19:44 KiNGxXx wrote:
Good thing is while Kespa players are winning BW fans are forgetting they actually hate sc2 :D

True and when Kespa A-Teamers will beat their ex B-Teamers it would be even more fun cuz of repeating karma (beat em in BW and gonna beat em in SC II).
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
August 16 2012 10:46 GMT
#731
On August 16 2012 19:44 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:43 ElephantBaby wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:42 Gosi wrote:
Haha seriously, I love when zergs (JULYZERG!!) just doesn't give a single fuck and just do shit like this time from time hahaha.


BW zergs usually have this kind of mentality. Macro is too hard against terran.

lol yeah july was know for throwing 4 pools randomly into boX even in finals, everyone had to be super careful :D


or Jaedong vs Flash 2 games in a row...
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 16 2012 10:46 GMT
#732
On August 16 2012 19:42 8mmspikes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:41 pdd wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:37 thousand wrote:
So what is the GSL vs KeSPA score right now?

Curious 2-0 Sun
aLive 2-0 Jaedong
Gumiho 2-0 Soulkey
HerO 2-0 Effort
Puzzle 2-1 HerO[jOin]
Yugioh 0-2 Reality
Hack 1-2 RorO
Horror 1-2 Sun
sC 1-2 Jaedong
CoCa 0-2 Soulkey
DRG 1-2 Effort
Yugioh 0-2 HerO[jOin]
Tails 1-2 HerO[jOin]
Gumiho 0-2 Effort

GSL 15-19 KeSPA


Wow thats quite the turn around from GSL 11-4 KeSPA from the ro32... GSL players have only won 4 games vs KeSPA players since then O_O

Granted the players you expect to dominate from GOM won and the players that trip over their own feet outside of GSTL did poorly so I'm not terribly surprised. Just pleasantly surprised.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
August 16 2012 10:46 GMT
#733
go jd!
"The voices are back. Excellent." Dexter Morgan
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 10:47:15
August 16 2012 10:46 GMT
#734
Really happy to see kespa players do so well already, shows that even in sc2 there is a lot of room for improvement mechanics wise.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 16 2012 10:46 GMT
#735
On August 16 2012 19:44 Dodgin wrote:
I don't get it do the gom coaches not know how to find proleague vods? there should be some games to study.

Comared to the years of vods of the GSL players playing eachother? Half the proleague games i watched were pretty messed up by at least one of the players. I realize they are improving in those matches but it is a bit hard to get a good read off of people who are both playing differently than they might against a player who has more experience in thegame.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 16 2012 10:46 GMT
#736
On August 16 2012 19:43 BackSideAttack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:42 ElephantBaby wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:40 catabowl wrote:
Okay people. All this "Elephant" talk is just plain stupid. It's pretty simple that the KESPA player would do well early.

Their opponents have a ton of games they can research which the opponents do not have the same luxury.

Lets give this a month or so and then you can put up the elephant in the room jokes. Remember when foreigners were beating Koreans in SC2 about a year ago? Yeah, now look at it. Swung back the other way.


I don't recall anytime foreigners beating Koreans consistantly.


Cuz the Kespa players have better mechanics than the GSL players, whereas the foreigners have worse mechanics than GSL players. Just look at how Hero held that 4 gate by tails.

I really hate it when people simplify Kespa players as being better simply because of mechanics.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
August 16 2012 10:46 GMT
#737
On August 16 2012 19:45 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:42 Diizzy wrote:
i dont get why people are downplaying the loser bracket. i mean drg coca and gumiho not good players or something? i do thin some people do take this kespa vs gom too seriously though. i mean its like foreigners vs koreans. people will pick sides and people shoudl just have fun with it instead of seriously arguing why the other one is better.


It's more like their decision making has gone to the crapper. The stress put on them shouldn't affect them this much. Every time they lose I am disgusted by the comments in a LR thread, so I cheer for my GOM players, but this is starting to become old. It's like their internal timers for when hives ++ come out has been replaced with a hello kitty island adventure disc featuring dancing cats meeting a butcher's knife.


Hello kitty island adventure was a pretty good game
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
August 16 2012 10:46 GMT
#738
On August 16 2012 19:45 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:44 Grumbels wrote:
All you people making puns about reality, hero and effort, try making one with soulkey to challenge yourself.


I was putting some Effort in to hooking in with my girlfriends mum. After a while, Reality hit me, and I realised I couldn't be the Hero my girlfriends mum wanted me to be... I couldn't even satisfy her needs...but I officially gave her my Soulkey.

???????????? :O

OH SNAP!
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
regizer239
Profile Joined March 2012
Guam327 Posts
August 16 2012 10:46 GMT
#739
On August 16 2012 19:44 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:40 catabowl wrote:
Okay people. All this "Elephant" talk is just plain stupid. It's pretty simple that the KESPA player would do well early.

Their opponents have a ton of games they can research which the opponents do not have the same luxury.

Lets give this a month or so and then you can put up the elephant in the room jokes. Remember when foreigners were beating Koreans in SC2 about a year ago? Yeah, now look at it. Swung back the other way.

I'm so fucking sick of these threads. So disgusting everytime a Kespa player wins the troll baiters come out to play. Just fucking cheer for your players you like without insulting literally every player that people who havnt watched much or any BW have followed for 2 years. It is ridiculously disrespectful. I really hope this goes the way of the USA Stephano chants considering how mods looked at that joke.


I dunno, this makes reading these threads more entertaining, no need to get all worked up
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
August 16 2012 10:46 GMT
#740
If anyone doesn't fail miserably and crumble under the pressure it will be the stonefaced Happy.
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