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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 13:29:24
August 16 2012 13:27 GMT
#2101
On August 16 2012 22:23 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:08 mcmartini wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:06 FairForever wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:58 mordk wrote:
Bah, I'm tired of this GOM vs Kespa debate, I hope some GOM pros do well, and about Kespa, I mostly care about JD, I'm also starting to grow fond of Reality and Sun.


Yeah was cheering for all the KeSPA players today, not a big fan of any of the GOM players that were playing today.

That being said, KeSPA players are playing damn well. But they're not the best of the best yet... keep in mind they are in the Loser's Bracket for a reason (except Roro, who is really beasting it up)

Really want Jaedong to win the tournament, especially since the big name GOM pros I like didn't participate anyway...

Didn't participate, or didn't qualify?

Well since MC and MVP went for easy cash abroad, I only have Leenock, and maybe Creator to root for as far as GOM pros goes. It's too bad those 2 forfeited, they bring so much to their matches both in-game and out of it. I hope JD takes it but most likely a GOM protoss is gonna win it all, maybe Puzzle


Nvm misread that.

On my end though I still have Polt, Seed, Squirtle, and Leenock to cheer for. It's all good in my hood still =D

The latest streak makes me nervous for Leenock. He should beat Rain if that horror Bo3 was anything to go by, but the streak makes me nervous =(
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 13:29:10
August 16 2012 13:27 GMT
#2102
On August 16 2012 22:24 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:19 Boonbag wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:17 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:15 Diizzy wrote:
i dont see how anyone particulary played bad. maybe except tail when he cheesed all 3 games against hero. seriosuly

reality pretty much out multitask and macro happpy so bad even in the game he lost.

effort 1st game was him easily defending gumiho drop play and just out macro him forcing gumiho to try to base race which didnt work out for him.

jaedong pew pew pew. to be fair genius alled in the 1st game too.



Gumiho outplayed Effort in the first game. If he had some form of preparations against Brood Lords he would have won that match easy. He was so far ahead but was caught off guard vs BLs which he couldn't fight and tried to baserace.


lol no, its not because he killed one hatch or two that he was ahead. Effort pretty much tore him appart.


He was ahead in bases / supply / upgrades / income. Effort did a lot better scouting than Gumiho that had no idea about the Brood Lords. He was up 4 bases to 3. The only thing which could have broke his defense was BLs and yet he didn't scout for it / completely forget their timing. He had 0 vikings vs 7-9 Broodlords. They didn't even have support when he flew them towards Gumiho's base so if he had 4 vikings he could have killed all and won.

Effort had one chance to win the game and Gumiho didn't scout for it. Which made him lose the game. The KeSPA players are good, but they are not flawless (yet).

Things look much different from a spectator and players point of view.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
August 16 2012 13:28 GMT
#2103
On August 16 2012 22:24 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:19 Boonbag wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:17 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:15 Diizzy wrote:
i dont see how anyone particulary played bad. maybe except tail when he cheesed all 3 games against hero. seriosuly

reality pretty much out multitask and macro happpy so bad even in the game he lost.

effort 1st game was him easily defending gumiho drop play and just out macro him forcing gumiho to try to base race which didnt work out for him.

jaedong pew pew pew. to be fair genius alled in the 1st game too.



Gumiho outplayed Effort in the first game. If he had some form of preparations against Brood Lords he would have won that match easy. He was so far ahead but was caught off guard vs BLs which he couldn't fight and tried to baserace.


lol no, its not because he killed one hatch or two that he was ahead. Effort pretty much tore him appart.


He was ahead in bases / supply / upgrades / income. Effort did a lot better scouting than Gumiho that had no idea about the Brood Lords. He was up 4 bases to 3. The only thing which could have broke his defense was BLs and yet he didn't scout for it / completely forget their timing. He had 0 vikings vs 7-9 Broodlords. They didn't even have support when he flew them towards Gumiho's base so if he had 4 vikings he could have killed all and won.

Effort had one chance to win the game and Gumiho didn't scout for it. Which made him lose the game. The KeSPA players are good, but they are not flawless (yet).


lol he had corruptors / infestors?
Trizz
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1318 Posts
August 16 2012 13:28 GMT
#2104
On August 16 2012 22:25 shabinka wrote:
Glad to see KeSPA players beating SC2 'b-teamers'. No offense to anyone played in these matches. Im happy to see the BW pros at least getting some results quickly. I can't wait to see them play the upper tier of SC2 pros again.


gumiho and genius b teamers lel
whatever makes you sleep at night
nope
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
August 16 2012 13:28 GMT
#2105
On August 16 2012 21:53 TeeTS wrote:
Genius' should have won, if he just moved his army right into the main (after he killed the 3rd) and left only some stalkers in the natural (a tactical move that should be known to a GSL player imo!).


Did you even watch the game? Jaedong had a million spines in his main already, the same spines he used to defend his expansions later. Genius couldn't have moved in, because he had lost his only siege units, he didn't have any Colossi left, and Jaedong was destroying his bases and all his production if he didn't go back.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
August 16 2012 13:29 GMT
#2106
On August 16 2012 22:25 shabinka wrote:
Glad to see KeSPA players beating SC2 'b-teamers'. No offense to anyone played in these matches. Im happy to see the BW pros at least getting some results quickly. I can't wait to see them play the upper tier of SC2 pros again.

lol, another one
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 13:32:21
August 16 2012 13:29 GMT
#2107
On August 16 2012 22:24 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:19 Boonbag wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:17 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:15 Diizzy wrote:
i dont see how anyone particulary played bad. maybe except tail when he cheesed all 3 games against hero. seriosuly

reality pretty much out multitask and macro happpy so bad even in the game he lost.

effort 1st game was him easily defending gumiho drop play and just out macro him forcing gumiho to try to base race which didnt work out for him.

jaedong pew pew pew. to be fair genius alled in the 1st game too.



Gumiho outplayed Effort in the first game. If he had some form of preparations against Brood Lords he would have won that match easy. He was so far ahead but was caught off guard vs BLs which he couldn't fight and tried to baserace.


lol no, its not because he killed one hatch or two that he was ahead. Effort pretty much tore him appart.


He was ahead in bases / supply / upgrades / income. Effort did a lot better scouting than Gumiho that had no idea about the Brood Lords. He was up 4 bases to 3. The only thing which could have broke his defense was BLs and yet he didn't scout for it / completely forget their timing. He had 0 vikings vs 7-9 Broodlords. They didn't even have support when he flew them towards Gumiho's base so if he had 4 vikings he could have killed all and won.

Effort had one chance to win the game and Gumiho didn't scout for it. Which made him lose the game. The KeSPA players are good, but they are not flawless (yet).


Gumiho was sitting on 3 bases but had 5 OCs the whole time.
Gumiho lack of scouting on the BLs timing is just bad play on his part.
About 15 mins, he should have started producing vikings and throw down 2 starports which he didn't.

Effort outplayed Gumiho.
Effort was on 5 bases but got denied and had 4 bases to 4 bases.
Gumiho was never ahead in upgrades only in +1/+2/+3 attack but Effort was ahead in armor upgrades.
Supply? Effort was saving his bank for Bls.That why his supply seem lowered.
Play your best
Dundron2000
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1140 Posts
August 16 2012 13:31 GMT
#2108
On August 16 2012 22:25 shabinka wrote:
Glad to see KeSPA players beating SC2 'b-teamers'. No offense to anyone played in these matches. Im happy to see the BW pros at least getting some results quickly. I can't wait to see them play the upper tier of SC2 pros again.


dat denial
n.Die_Jaedong
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 13:32:28
August 16 2012 13:31 GMT
#2109
On August 16 2012 22:25 shabinka wrote:
Glad to see KeSPA players beating SC2 'b-teamers'. No offense to anyone played in these matches. Im happy to see the BW pros at least getting some results quickly. I can't wait to see them play the upper tier of SC2 pros again.

Is DRG
RG part of your B team too? Lol rank 1 in GSL points. Get the fuck outta here with that nonsense.
seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
August 16 2012 13:32 GMT
#2110
On August 16 2012 22:28 Trizz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:25 shabinka wrote:
Glad to see KeSPA players beating SC2 'b-teamers'. No offense to anyone played in these matches. Im happy to see the BW pros at least getting some results quickly. I can't wait to see them play the upper tier of SC2 pros again.


gumiho and genius b teamers lel
whatever makes you sleep at night


I think Guimho all killed the Slayers team the other day in a tourney called GSTL? Slayers must be all C teamers, yea?
I will master Speshul Taktics.!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 16 2012 13:33 GMT
#2111
On August 16 2012 22:32 seansye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:28 Trizz wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:25 shabinka wrote:
Glad to see KeSPA players beating SC2 'b-teamers'. No offense to anyone played in these matches. Im happy to see the BW pros at least getting some results quickly. I can't wait to see them play the upper tier of SC2 pros again.


gumiho and genius b teamers lel
whatever makes you sleep at night


I think Guimho all killed the Slayers team the other day in a tourney called GSTL? Slayers must be all C teamers, yea?

yeah, slayers' ace, mma, is a b-teamer, the rest of slayers are c-teamers for sure
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 16 2012 13:37 GMT
#2112
btw, lr2 d2:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=15854459
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
August 16 2012 13:37 GMT
#2113
Good matches today, I can have a calm evening now.
Oh, btw + Show Spoiler +
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 13:40:02
August 16 2012 13:39 GMT
#2114
On August 16 2012 22:24 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:19 Boonbag wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:17 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:15 Diizzy wrote:
i dont see how anyone particulary played bad. maybe except tail when he cheesed all 3 games against hero. seriosuly

reality pretty much out multitask and macro happpy so bad even in the game he lost.

effort 1st game was him easily defending gumiho drop play and just out macro him forcing gumiho to try to base race which didnt work out for him.

jaedong pew pew pew. to be fair genius alled in the 1st game too.



Gumiho outplayed Effort in the first game. If he had some form of preparations against Brood Lords he would have won that match easy. He was so far ahead but was caught off guard vs BLs which he couldn't fight and tried to baserace.


lol no, its not because he killed one hatch or two that he was ahead. Effort pretty much tore him appart.


He was ahead in bases / supply / upgrades / income. Effort did a lot better scouting than Gumiho that had no idea about the Brood Lords. He was up 4 bases to 3. The only thing which could have broke his defense was BLs and yet he didn't scout for it / completely forget their timing. He had 0 vikings vs 7-9 Broodlords. They didn't even have support when he flew them towards Gumiho's base so if he had 4 vikings he could have killed all and won.

Effort had one chance to win the game and Gumiho didn't scout for it. Which made him lose the game. The KeSPA players are good, but they are not flawless (yet).


Did Gumiho get that army to kill those bases for free? He chose to build a stronger army and attack, instead of building those Vikings and preparing for Broodlords. It's a trade off. He tried to win the game before the Broodlords came, but couldn't, and died when Effort got the Broods out.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
August 16 2012 13:40 GMT
#2115
No need to panic just yet. There's only one KeSPA player in the upper bracket.

Really excited for Jaedong though, that's a big win.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
August 16 2012 13:41 GMT
#2116
DId anyone see Genius take a peek at Jaedong after he won game 1? It absolutely didn't look like much, but I just felt there was a huge intimidation factor. Genius was also breathing heavily after his loss in game two and was shaking his hands and all. I mean this is Genius, the guy who likes to Manner BM his opponents and do ceremonies against big opponents.

I get pretty intimidated when I face certain pros on ladder(not bragging =P), but one can wonder how Genius feels having to go up against The Tyrant.

I will master Speshul Taktics.!
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
August 16 2012 13:44 GMT
#2117
On August 16 2012 22:41 seansye wrote:
DId anyone see Genius take a peek at Jaedong after he won game 1? It absolutely didn't look like much, but I just felt there was a huge intimidation factor. Genius was also breathing heavily after his loss in game two and was shaking his hands and all. I mean this is Genius, the guy who likes to Manner BM his opponents and do ceremonies against big opponents.

I get pretty intimidated when I face certain pros on ladder(not bragging =P), but one can wonder how Genius feels having to go up against The Tyrant.



Of course he'd be nervous. It's Jaedong!
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
August 16 2012 13:45 GMT
#2118
them elephants, i love seeing this rivalry between gom and kespa players
savior did nothing wrong
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
August 16 2012 13:46 GMT
#2119
So who all is playing tomorrow? Can somebody please link me? I am eager to kn
ow =P
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 13:50:29
August 16 2012 13:48 GMT
#2120
On August 16 2012 22:41 seansye wrote:
DId anyone see Genius take a peek at Jaedong after he won game 1? It absolutely didn't look like much, but I just felt there was a huge intimidation factor. Genius was also breathing heavily after his loss in game two and was shaking his hands and all. I mean this is Genius, the guy who likes to Manner BM his opponents and do ceremonies against big opponents.

I get pretty intimidated when I face certain pros on ladder(not bragging =P), but one can wonder how Genius feels having to go up against The Tyrant.


Imagine yourself playing a game against a guy who literally was a fucking machine for several years. His mechanics thinking and general mentality is miles better than yours and you are damn well aware of that. In fact his victories over several years, that inspired thousands of players and spawned so many fans, cannot be compared to your puny achievements. The only thing you have to offer is that you are better at this particular game and your know that not for long. They are kids after all, nothing to be ashamed of.
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