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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 23:28:42
August 13 2012 23:27 GMT
#1641
On August 14 2012 08:22 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 07:55 SHOOG wrote:
Wow, only one foreigner left.


Foreigners are 1-13 vs koreans in TSL 4. Wouldn't really call that "wow" though, who would expect otherwise? Foreign tournaments just legitimize the GSL.

In TSL's foreigners are supposed to beat Koreans
And as for the whole Infestor debate...
Yes, they got buffed. They're now a killer all-round unit that can be used for multiple scenarios. Having trouble in a game? Make more infestors.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
cosmo.6792
Profile Joined September 2010
161 Posts
August 13 2012 23:31 GMT
#1642
On August 14 2012 08:22 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 07:55 SHOOG wrote:
Wow, only one foreigner left.


Foreigners are 1-13 vs koreans in TSL 4. Wouldn't really call that "wow" though, who would expect otherwise?




The TSL is renowned as a tournament where foreigners upset Koreans. Especially in TSL3 and TSL2.
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
August 13 2012 23:32 GMT
#1643
Keen will most likely beat Recco... and... Who am I kidding, lost interest in TSL already.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 13 2012 23:33 GMT
#1644
On August 14 2012 08:31 cosmo.6792 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 08:22 xrapture wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:55 SHOOG wrote:
Wow, only one foreigner left.


Foreigners are 1-13 vs koreans in TSL 4. Wouldn't really call that "wow" though, who would expect otherwise?




The TSL is renowned as a tournament where foreigners upset Koreans. Especially in TSL3 and TSL2.


lots of Koreans in the TSL2 i heard...
Zest fanboy.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
August 13 2012 23:46 GMT
#1645
On August 14 2012 08:09 DODswe4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 07:24 Eufouria wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:21 hayata2.0 wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:20 Zane wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:19 Noonius wrote:
apparently only people with TSL+ are able to watch right now

That seems like a nice perk.

yeah its called a paywall

They said it was on twitches end, apparently the transcode servers broke, but I don't know what that actually means or why that would mean only subscribers could access the stream.


not all subscribers could see the stream, Im not even sure the reason why some people could see the stream was related to tsl+ at all

Somebody explained to me that if you are on the +setting (so for TSL 1080p+) the stream is not transcoded through Twitch, so I'm guessing the subscribers who couldn't access the stream were not on the 1080p+ setting.
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 23:52:50
August 13 2012 23:49 GMT
#1646
On August 14 2012 08:04 starception wrote:
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On August 14 2012 07:53 cosmo.6792 wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:42 DoeniDon wrote:
Yes, they did get buffed hugely. They went from being only useful for delaying/rooting your opponent down for a while to a big DPS output and overall good unit.



It's debatable. I think people just learned to use fungal more, just as Protoss learned to use motherships more and Terrans learned to use helions more. I think infestors are no more useful today than they were in the beginning.

The DPS buff from (36 pts in 8 sec) to (36 pts in 4 sec) was huge. But the nerf in stun duration was equally huge. It used to be that a single infestor could defend an entire expansion. One fungal growth is enough to hold the harassment units for 8 seconds, which is more than enough for reinforcements to arrive. Also, all air units (like Phoenix, Vikings, or Medivacs) were as good as dead if they get caught by an 8-second fungal. 8-second fungals plus infested terrans would kill air units quite effectively. Nowadays, multiple infestors with chain-fungals would be required.

The 9-range neural parasite was actually useful against sieged tanks and thors. Now with 7-range neurals, infestors just die too easily. I don't even remember the last time I saw neural parasite in a ZvT.


Unlike mothership or hellions, fungals are regularly used versus everything. zerg behind by like 100+ supply? okay, fungal a few times and now the playing field is even again.

Lol, this is so false...
Make more medievacs and fungals won't do shit in big engagements. That's why a lot of korean zergs go mutas(and as such have less infestors) to snipe medievacs.
EDIT: i saw your reply in the previous page and all i got to say is lol, i don't believe you.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 14 2012 00:10 GMT
#1647
I'm 99% sure starception is a troll, best not feed him any longer.
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
August 14 2012 00:13 GMT
#1648
Lul so much Koreans left *-*
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
artosismermaid
Profile Joined May 2011
213 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 00:14:10
August 14 2012 00:13 GMT
#1649
jonnyreco will beat keen easily but i can't see him winning a z v z afterwards
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
August 14 2012 00:23 GMT
#1650
On August 14 2012 08:32 Psychobabas wrote:
Keen will most likely beat Recco... and... Who am I kidding, lost interest in TSL already.


Same. Once Nerchio lost I was "meh, someone could upset still". Then when Kas and Vortix lost I completely wrote off watching the rest of the tournament.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Schmoooopy
Profile Joined July 2011
United States448 Posts
August 14 2012 00:24 GMT
#1651
Looking at the bracket, I don't see anyone I want to root for. I was hoping Squirtle/Vortix would win but now I'm disappointed. Meh, I'll still watch the broadcast for the matches, but I won't be nearly as emotionally invested in who wins.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 14 2012 00:26 GMT
#1652
Yea, will be cheering for JR i guess, but this TSL has been super anti-hype (so far at least).
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
August 14 2012 00:32 GMT
#1653
to many korean :[
n_n
fcb10
Profile Joined February 2012
113 Posts
August 14 2012 00:44 GMT
#1654
On August 14 2012 08:22 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 07:55 SHOOG wrote:
Wow, only one foreigner left.


Foreigners are 1-13 vs koreans in TSL 4. Wouldn't really call that "wow" though, who would expect otherwise? Foreign tournaments just legitimize the GSL.


hyun, korea is disappointed
murphs
Profile Joined April 2011
Ireland418 Posts
August 14 2012 01:02 GMT
#1655
7 boring faceless koreans left, except for Keen, he does have that cool gif. Would be cool if the wee Scotsman can make it happen but the moment he's out I don't give a damn about TSL anymore.
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
August 14 2012 01:06 GMT
#1656
On August 14 2012 10:02 murphs wrote:
7 boring faceless koreans left, except for Keen, he does have that cool gif. Would be cool if the wee Scotsman can make it happen but the moment he's out I don't give a damn about TSL anymore.


yea they are boring and faceless because they are korean.

good logic. get the fuck out
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1710 Posts
August 14 2012 01:11 GMT
#1657
On August 14 2012 08:32 Psychobabas wrote:
Keen will most likely beat Recco... and... Who am I kidding, lost interest in TSL already.


so true T.T
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12033 Posts
August 14 2012 01:11 GMT
#1658
I don't know much about any of the players but I'm going to support First as he took out my personal favourite player in the competition and also Johnny as he's British.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 14 2012 01:31 GMT
#1659
On August 14 2012 10:06 jj33 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 10:02 murphs wrote:
7 boring faceless koreans left, except for Keen, he does have that cool gif. Would be cool if the wee Scotsman can make it happen but the moment he's out I don't give a damn about TSL anymore.


yea they are boring and faceless because they are korean.

good logic. get the fuck out


he didn't say they were boring and faceless only because the were korean.

stop getting butthurt and twisting his sentence. he merely stated that they are boring and faceless, and happen to be korean. i had never even heard of First before TSL. It's just really boring to watch people that have no personality for an english speaking audience.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
August 14 2012 01:34 GMT
#1660
On August 14 2012 10:31 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 10:06 jj33 wrote:
On August 14 2012 10:02 murphs wrote:
7 boring faceless koreans left, except for Keen, he does have that cool gif. Would be cool if the wee Scotsman can make it happen but the moment he's out I don't give a damn about TSL anymore.


yea they are boring and faceless because they are korean.

good logic. get the fuck out


he didn't say they were boring and faceless only because the were korean.

stop getting butthurt and twisting his sentence. he merely stated that they are boring and faceless, and happen to be korean. i had never even heard of First before TSL. It's just really boring to watch people that have no personality for an english speaking audience.


um bullshit.

He definitely is calling them faceless because they are Korean. not butthurt at all, just hate racism.

Oh yea you're watching a stream of sc2 gameplay, you're not watching them singing or dancing. And there's no interviews with players in this tournament from what I have seen thus far, so you're statement is null.

The only thing you are watching is the players playing and thats the entertainment, their skill.

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