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Thobrik
Sweden1120 Posts
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
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Breach_hu
Hungary2431 Posts
On August 14 2012 03:32 imallinson wrote: 6 pool vs P isn't really an all in. You can pretty much always keep the Protoss on one base for long enough to transition into a macro game. please tell me the terran all-in where terran is able to expand. i mean real all-in. not pressure. | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
A 2 base sentry/immortal push is the definition of all-in. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Yes, he was at about 45 Probes and even walled off his main ramp. If the attack didn't kill a significant amount of Drones or win the game he was screwed. | ||
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Sakray
France2198 Posts
On August 14 2012 03:32 imallinson wrote: 6 pool vs P isn't really an all in. You can pretty much always keep the Protoss on one base for long enough to transition into a macro game. Until recently it was considered an all-in. But how can you recover from a 15 drones deficit ? Curious was at like 6 or 7 and Squirtle had 21 when the 1st 6 lings reached his main. I'm pretty sure that even with a 1 base all-in follow-up Squirtle would still have lost. | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On August 14 2012 03:34 tschecko wrote: pylon nexus forge pylon gate cannon i guess it was but that´s as much standard immortal push as it can be. Waxangel's comment made me think he tweaked it in a certain fashion. Well thx for info anyway (; | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On August 14 2012 03:36 ZAiNs wrote: Yes, he was at about 45 Probes and even walled off his main ramp. If the attack didn't kill a significant amount of Drones or win the game he was screwed. if i execute it, it feels pretty all in. The issue is when and how hard you cut probes. On 45 probes, i feel your pretty much all-in whatever. Longer games only occur if you do major damage without really killing them. | ||
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
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imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
On August 14 2012 03:36 Sakray wrote: Until recently it was considered an all-in. But how can you recover from a 15 drones deficit ? Curious was at like 6 or 7 and Squirtle had 21 when the 1st 6 lings reached his main. I'm pretty sure that even with a 1 base all-in follow-up Squirtle would still have lost. It can be an all in if you don't aim for a transition out of it but 6 pool into double expand is becoming more standard, especially on maps like Entombed. The problem with P doing a 1 base all in from that is that the lings are running around your base and will see it way before it hits so the zerg can just spine up and be fine. | ||
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Shikada
Serbia976 Posts
On August 14 2012 03:35 CosmicSpiral wrote: A 2 base sentry/immortal push is the definition of all-in. This. I don't even see room for discussion here. | ||
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imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
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AgentChaos
United Kingdom4569 Posts
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Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
On August 14 2012 03:48 ACrow wrote: Why attack into that, squirtle, why? What else was he supposed to do? | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On August 14 2012 03:48 ACrow wrote: Why attack into that, squirtle, why? Because he had no choice? | ||
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