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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 10:39:36
August 06 2012 10:39 GMT
#961
On August 06 2012 19:35 stephenrau wrote:
I'm as Pro-GOM as they come in the KESPA v GOM debate but I find Wolf and Khaldor's bias extremely annoying. It was so transparent in the qualifier rounds such as when they focused 100% on Symbol's play and ignored anything Reality did in his massive upset. Basically every match they've commentated thus far is the same. I imagine there will be very upset Jaedong fans soon.
The elephant argument is ridiculous in the sense that I will be shocked if any BW player rises past the play we've seen from Taeja recently but at the same time some are already at least on the level of "scrubs" such as Miya and Suhosin.

i noticed it, but i just ignored any deeper meaning, than that they know curious's play style more, and it seemed like curious was doing something unusual(with the bl in space and mass IT)? plus perhaps rains build is something very standard??
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
August 06 2012 10:39 GMT
#962
On August 06 2012 19:35 stephenrau wrote:
I'm as Pro-GOM as they come in the KESPA v GOM debate but I find Wolf and Khaldor's bias extremely annoying. It was so transparent in the qualifier rounds such as when they focused 100% on Symbol's play and ignored anything Reality did in his massive upset. Basically every match they've commentated thus far is the same. I imagine there will be very upset Jaedong fans soon.
The elephant argument is ridiculous in the sense that I will be shocked if any BW player rises past the play we've seen from Taeja recently but at the same time some are already at least on the level of "scrubs" such as Miya and Suhosin.


Their biases are just confirmational biases. They expect Symbol to crush any player they have never really heard of. It would be the same if he was a Code B Korean player or random foreigner. It makes the thinking process a lot easier.

I imagine JD will be interesting because both casters likely only know a few BW players and JD is definitely one of them. This should lead them to be a little less biased in favor of JD. So, I doubt we have anything to worry about.

I would like to point out that there was no real bias in this game. It was nowhere near what the Qualifiers were.
Never make a hydralisk.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7312 Posts
August 06 2012 10:39 GMT
#963
On August 06 2012 19:38 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 19:30 scares wrote:
On August 06 2012 19:29 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 06 2012 19:29 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
I know Rain isn't playing the best but I really have an issue with corruptor attack strength :/ sorry but I do.


Do you do anything else then complaining in this thread?


Its a LR thread what else does it exist for??

I could answer this in so many ways...


I for one am interested in hearing all of them.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
August 06 2012 10:39 GMT
#964
On August 06 2012 19:38 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 19:30 scares wrote:
On August 06 2012 19:29 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 06 2012 19:29 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
I know Rain isn't playing the best but I really have an issue with corruptor attack strength :/ sorry but I do.


Do you do anything else then complaining in this thread?


Its a LR thread what else does it exist for??

I could answer this in so many ways...


Oh I know your answer so does everyone else whose seen you post enough........

kpop.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 06 2012 10:39 GMT
#965
On August 06 2012 19:36 FinestHour wrote:
ive heard some good elevator music before, but this takes the cake

pff please
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 10:43:25
August 06 2012 10:40 GMT
#966
On August 06 2012 19:37 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 19:35 stephenrau wrote:
I'm as Pro-GOM as they come in the KESPA v GOM debate but I find Wolf and Khaldor's bias extremely annoying. It was so transparent in the qualifier rounds such as when they focused 100% on Symbol's play and ignored anything Reality did in his massive upset. Basically every match they've commentated thus far is the same. I imagine there will be very upset Jaedong fans soon.
The elephant argument is ridiculous in the sense that I will be shocked if any BW player rises past the play we've seen from Taeja recently but at the same time some are already at least on the level of "scrubs" such as Miya and Suhosin.


Well what you need to realize though is that kespa going star 2 pretty much puts their jobs on the line. GOM couldn't continue star 1 after 3 seasons thanks to kespa, and given how kespa will have free global hd stream and their level of games will probably be on par with gsl code s soon, gom may very well not be around in a year or two from now, which means that both khaldor and wolf may need to look for new jobs or even move out of korea.


I doubt it. Mainly because Kespa isnt really foreign friendly and pretty much depended on the korean audience. GOM on the other hand has relied on the korean audience and mainly the foreign audience. If Kespa wants to do anything to put a dent into GOM then they would have to be more foreign friendly. For SC2, that is.
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
August 06 2012 10:40 GMT
#967
Every tournament/event I am more and more impressed with GOM's production value (aside from stream quality, obvs.).

Good stuff.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 10:41:14
August 06 2012 10:41 GMT
#968
On August 06 2012 19:37 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 19:35 stephenrau wrote:
I'm as Pro-GOM as they come in the KESPA v GOM debate but I find Wolf and Khaldor's bias extremely annoying. It was so transparent in the qualifier rounds such as when they focused 100% on Symbol's play and ignored anything Reality did in his massive upset. Basically every match they've commentated thus far is the same. I imagine there will be very upset Jaedong fans soon.
The elephant argument is ridiculous in the sense that I will be shocked if any BW player rises past the play we've seen from Taeja recently but at the same time some are already at least on the level of "scrubs" such as Miya and Suhosin.


Well what you need to realize though is that kespa going star 2 pretty much puts their jobs on the line. GOM couldn't continue star 1 after 3 seasons thanks to kespa, and given how kespa will have free global hd stream and their level of games will probably be on par with gsl code s soon, gom may very well not be around in a year or two from now, which means that both khaldor and wolf may need to look for new jobs or even move out of korea.

Tournaments can coexist you know...
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 06 2012 10:41 GMT
#969
On August 06 2012 19:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 19:38 HaXXspetten wrote:
On August 06 2012 19:30 scares wrote:
On August 06 2012 19:29 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 06 2012 19:29 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
I know Rain isn't playing the best but I really have an issue with corruptor attack strength :/ sorry but I do.


Do you do anything else then complaining in this thread?


Its a LR thread what else does it exist for??

I could answer this in so many ways...


Oh I know your answer so does everyone else whose seen you post enough........

kpop.

well that too if you give me some sort of context for it, but wasn't quite what I was referring to this time
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
August 06 2012 10:41 GMT
#970
On August 06 2012 19:40 blacksheepwall wrote:
Every tournament/event I am more and more impressed with GOM's production value (aside from stream quality, obvs.).

Good stuff.

tho i do wish they would have try the "star-suits" lol they're sooo awesome!
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
maracuja123
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil419 Posts
August 06 2012 10:41 GMT
#971
when jeadong isplaying? iguess i need to dl this fucking awful program GOMTV...
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 06 2012 10:41 GMT
#972
I wish I could wake up with the sun.
Sadly these days I go to sleep when the sun start to rise. ._.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
August 06 2012 10:41 GMT
#973
go sC go!!!!
#TheOneTrueDong
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
August 06 2012 10:41 GMT
#974
On August 06 2012 19:41 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 19:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 06 2012 19:38 HaXXspetten wrote:
On August 06 2012 19:30 scares wrote:
On August 06 2012 19:29 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 06 2012 19:29 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
I know Rain isn't playing the best but I really have an issue with corruptor attack strength :/ sorry but I do.


Do you do anything else then complaining in this thread?


Its a LR thread what else does it exist for??

I could answer this in so many ways...


Oh I know your answer so does everyone else whose seen you post enough........

kpop.

well that too if you give me some sort of context for it, but wasn't quite what I was referring to this time


I don't believe you. KPOP is what you are ALWAYS referring to.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
August 06 2012 10:41 GMT
#975
parting doesnt look the same anymore lol
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 06 2012 10:42 GMT
#976
On August 06 2012 19:41 maracuja123 wrote:
when jeadong isplaying? iguess i need to dl this fucking awful program GOMTV...


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silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 06 2012 10:42 GMT
#977
That probe harass by Sun in Game 1 was crazy though. Seriously, if he gets more of his fundamentals down like control group assignments, et, he can put his multi-tasking to much better and scarier use.

Props to Curious though. That guy is a boss.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
6NR
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1472 Posts
August 06 2012 10:42 GMT
#978
startale will pwn this hard
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8541 Posts
August 06 2012 10:42 GMT
#979
On August 06 2012 19:40 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 19:37 Lorch wrote:
On August 06 2012 19:35 stephenrau wrote:
I'm as Pro-GOM as they come in the KESPA v GOM debate but I find Wolf and Khaldor's bias extremely annoying. It was so transparent in the qualifier rounds such as when they focused 100% on Symbol's play and ignored anything Reality did in his massive upset. Basically every match they've commentated thus far is the same. I imagine there will be very upset Jaedong fans soon.
The elephant argument is ridiculous in the sense that I will be shocked if any BW player rises past the play we've seen from Taeja recently but at the same time some are already at least on the level of "scrubs" such as Miya and Suhosin.


Well what you need to realize though is that kespa going star 2 pretty much puts their jobs on the line. GOM couldn't continue star 1 after 3 seasons thanks to kespa, and given how kespa will have free global hd stream and their level of games will probably be on par with gsl code s soon, gom may very well not be around in a year or two from now, which means that both khaldor and wolf may need to look for new jobs or even move out of korea.


I doubt it.


Yeah this seems to be so wrong on so many levels - as if all of a sudden more popular/well versed casters will emerge and gom will vanish completely...
maracuja123
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil419 Posts
August 06 2012 10:42 GMT
#980
On August 06 2012 19:42 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 19:41 maracuja123 wrote:
when jeadong isplaying? iguess i need to dl this fucking awful program GOMTV...


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