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On August 07 2012 05:25 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Can anyone tell my how JD played?

On August 07 2012 02:43 kaokentake wrote:
jaedongs only "mistakes" in the first game is he derped bane/ling into tanks in the midgame and lost

jaedongs other mistakes later in the game like maybe not dealing with drops properly is a RESULT of his early derping into tanks which let alive have more than he should have had. if the terrans got way more crap than he should have and pwning you allover the map of course it "looks like" jaedongs making mistakes. no zerg would look otherwise but its a result of their earlier mistakes.

banelings SUCK against even 1 tank (however fungal+ a few banes pwns). their ONLY purpose is surviving early pressure, past themidgame infestors are always a better unit to spend money on. only time you should be derping banes into tanks in the midgame is if your using leftover banelings from the earlygame you were forced to build

jaedong had 3 fast saturated bases, 12 minute hive with tons of queens and insane creepspread, zero damage incurred early. he should have won but he traded thousands of resources of banelings for near nothing. once he learns this small lesson he should destroy alive in that first game in the same scenario (as no terrans really have an answer to stephano style fungal abuse yet if the zerg gets 3fast bases like that he should never lose. stephano only loses when the terran stops that fast 3base 12minute hive uninterrupted macro for zerg scenario from happening)

simply put, infestors are just better than banelings. 1 infestor costs 100/150 and it can get off a few fungals in its first 2 minutes of life. swarm mass lings into the tanks/bio during the 10-15 minute midgame and a couple fungals do the job of 15 banelings. 15 banelings cost 750/375. infestors are like 4x more cost efficient. then get broodlords or ultras with that 12 minute hive and its prisonrape for alive after the 15 minute midgame is over. i expect jaedong to crush code s terrans once he figures out that last piece of the stephano puzzle (abuse fungal all game long) which allows stephano to rape everyone with zerg but he would be a low tier player if he played terran or toss because he wouldnt be able to abuse fungal as toss or terran (ok im joking about this part. just annoys me how zerg is designed to rely so much on fungal. every stephano game is the fungal diarys. how would he perform without it. but i guess every top zerg is like that now and needs to be like that because zerg has to be by its very design. you live and die by the fungal)

game 2 means nothing really... jaedong had a horrible reaction to a 2rax then just lost after that... just means he just doesnt know the right way to react which a quick conversation with any top zerg could fix for the dong... he played standard very well in game1 for the first 12 minutes of opening but derped ling/banes after that in the midgame

On August 07 2012 02:43 kaokentake wrote:
jaedongs only "mistakes" in the first game is he derped bane/ling into tanks in the midgame and lost

jaedongs other mistakes later in the game like maybe not dealing with drops properly is a RESULT of his early derping into tanks which let alive have more than he should have had. if the terrans got way more crap than he should have and pwning you allover the map of course it "looks like" jaedongs making mistakes. no zerg would look otherwise but its a result of their earlier mistakes.

banelings SUCK against even 1 tank (however fungal+ a few banes pwns). their ONLY purpose is surviving early pressure, past themidgame infestors are always a better unit to spend money on. only time you should be derping banes into tanks in the midgame is if your using leftover banelings from the earlygame you were forced to build

jaedong had 3 fast saturated bases, 12 minute hive with tons of queens and insane creepspread, zero damage incurred early. he should have won but he traded thousands of resources of banelings for near nothing. once he learns this small lesson he should destroy alive in that first game in the same scenario (as no terrans really have an answer to stephano style fungal abuse yet if the zerg gets 3fast bases like that he should never lose. stephano only loses when the terran stops that fast 3base 12minute hive uninterrupted macro for zerg scenario from happening)

simply put, infestors are just better than banelings. 1 infestor costs 100/150 and it can get off a few fungals in its first 2 minutes of life. swarm mass lings into the tanks/bio during the 10-15 minute midgame and a couple fungals do the job of 15 banelings. 15 banelings cost 750/375. infestors are like 4x more cost efficient. then get broodlords or ultras with that 12 minute hive and its prisonrape for alive after the 15 minute midgame is over. i expect jaedong to crush code s terrans once he figures out that last piece of the stephano puzzle (abuse fungal all game long) which allows stephano to rape everyone with zerg but he would be a low tier player if he played terran or toss because he wouldnt be able to abuse fungal as toss or terran (ok im joking about this part. just annoys me how zerg is designed to rely so much on fungal. every stephano game is the fungal diarys. how would he perform without it. but i guess every top zerg is like that now and needs to be like that because zerg has to be by its very design. you live and die by the fungal)

game 2 means nothing really... jaedong had a horrible reaction to a 2rax then just lost after that... just means he just doesnt know the right way to react which a quick conversation with any top zerg could fix for the dong... he played standard very well in game1 for the first 12 minutes of opening but derped ling/banes after that in the midgame

On August 07 2012 06:41 DYEAlabaster wrote:
Poor Dong, he's so hooped getting SC in the lower bracket

On August 07 2012 02:00 Xiphos wrote:

NONE of the TBLS will win a GSL title mark my words.

On August 07 2012 02:25 Xiphos wrote:


But he sucks at SCtwo. Everytime he plays the game, he just looks plain depressed.

On August 07 2012 03:31 Random_Guy09 wrote:


Lol you sir must be delusional or dont watch many TvZ's in GSL. Those guys pretty much fight for their lives until they're down to drones if they have to. And there is really no need to state anything simple as larva injects cause its a pointless thing to bring up (And zergs generally trade very well because of the economy they're able to get making only late game comps not cost effective) as is the favored race on a map. A MU winrate on a map means absolutely nothing. If you are the better player you can use your skill and knowledge to win on any map no matter how favored it is so its no excuse.

On August 07 2012 10:32 Archers_bane wrote:
Jaedong He isn't out of the tourney yet right?

On August 07 2012 11:18 FataLe wrote:

So, you're saying he's already out of the tournament?

On August 07 2012 16:36 Archers_bane wrote:
I am not familiar with all the SC2 pro players, so sC is like a A+ Terran player? Parting must be good to beat him then to force him into losers bracket. Cmon Jaedong, unleash the Tyrant!!