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Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3397 Posts
August 04 2012 21:00 GMT
#261
Lol @ mana bias here. He gets behind in supply from early pressure and builds :: 3rd nexus, 2 forges w/ +1/+1 and robo bay and then dies without mining from the third or having a colussus. >_>
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 04 2012 21:00 GMT
#262
I don't think it is as bad as it seems, if the colossi was here 10 secs ago it would have been a different battle.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
August 04 2012 21:00 GMT
#263
On August 05 2012 05:59 Xxavi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 05:55 Dodgin wrote:
On August 05 2012 05:54 Xxavi wrote:
Mana's micro is bad. He just isn't very good is he?


Well he won a dreamhack recently so he's obviously good...

I don't know how he won DreamHack, and how good that tournament was, but it has been very one-sided so far. It's ugly from Mana.


If you're not informed on the players' results and how he got them then speaking out on their skill level as a whole is not a good idea. To each their own.
memes are a dish best served dank
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
August 04 2012 21:00 GMT
#264
I think Day9 was giving Mana's chances too much credit there. When it's 120 to 60 supply during the final push you don't need to make it exciting still and make orgasm sounds.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
scsnow
Profile Joined April 2010
Slovenia515 Posts
August 04 2012 21:01 GMT
#265
mana double exp + colos tech (no immortal) + double forge... and on three gateways
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
August 04 2012 21:01 GMT
#266
and day9 talking bs again, step up your game man
IM & EG supporter
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
August 04 2012 21:01 GMT
#267
Any of you think maybe he's hyping the losing player to not make it look like a landslide? Maybe trying to make it interesting for people watching?

Anyone that knows the game knows mana was dead. I'm positive he does too.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 04 2012 21:02 GMT
#268
Only time I've seen Hack do the Mech style, it was either daybreak or Ohana.
I hope he tries it.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
August 04 2012 21:02 GMT
#269
[image loading]

Make it happen Hack.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Fungal Growth
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
August 04 2012 21:02 GMT
#270
Mana has to adapt...being greedy against hyper-aggresive Hack just won't cut it...
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
August 04 2012 21:02 GMT
#271
On August 05 2012 06:00 marttorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 05:59 Xxavi wrote:
On August 05 2012 05:55 Dodgin wrote:
On August 05 2012 05:54 Xxavi wrote:
Mana's micro is bad. He just isn't very good is he?


Well he won a dreamhack recently so he's obviously good...

I don't know how he won DreamHack, and how good that tournament was, but it has been very one-sided so far. It's ugly from Mana.


If you're not informed on the players' results and how he got them then speaking out on their skill level as a whole is not a good idea. To each their own.


Yeah I hate this attitude so much.

"Hey look at THIS ONE series, this player must be bad!"
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
August 04 2012 21:02 GMT
#272
On August 05 2012 06:01 AgentChaos wrote:
and day9 talking bs again, step up your game man

he is really good in getting you in the game as a beginner, but then.. urgh
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
August 04 2012 21:02 GMT
#273
On August 05 2012 06:00 MCDayC wrote:
The only way I can forgive Hack is if he plays mech.

That will do, that will do!
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 04 2012 21:03 GMT
#274
On August 05 2012 06:02 Noocta wrote:
Only time I've seen Hack do the Mech style, it was either daybreak or Ohana.
I hope he tries it.

Both, beat lure with it on ohana, lost to creator on daybreak.
Glorious SEA doto
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
August 04 2012 21:03 GMT
#275
On August 05 2012 06:00 marttorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 05:59 Xxavi wrote:
On August 05 2012 05:55 Dodgin wrote:
On August 05 2012 05:54 Xxavi wrote:
Mana's micro is bad. He just isn't very good is he?


Well he won a dreamhack recently so he's obviously good...

I don't know how he won DreamHack, and how good that tournament was, but it has been very one-sided so far. It's ugly from Mana.


If you're not informed on the players' results and how he got them then speaking out on their skill level as a whole is not a good idea. To each their own.

I am just posting a comment about the current games. What's wrong with that?
Mana looks like a terrible player.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 04 2012 21:03 GMT
#276
On August 05 2012 06:01 iAmJeffReY wrote:
Any of you think maybe he's hyping the losing player to not make it look like a landslide? Maybe trying to make it interesting for people watching?

Anyone that knows the game knows mana was dead. I'm positive he does too.


There is a pretty big line between hyping the losing player and blatantly miscalling the game. Questioning if mana still has a shot of holding a push that is literally destroying everything before our very eyes definitely fits in the latter category. I'm used to better from day9.
Utukka
Profile Joined September 2010
26 Posts
August 04 2012 21:04 GMT
#277
On August 05 2012 06:01 iAmJeffReY wrote:
Any of you think maybe he's hyping the losing player to not make it look like a landslide? Maybe trying to make it interesting for people watching?

Anyone that knows the game knows mana was dead. I'm positive he does too.


This
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 04 2012 21:04 GMT
#278
On August 05 2012 06:02 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 06:00 marttorn wrote:
On August 05 2012 05:59 Xxavi wrote:
On August 05 2012 05:55 Dodgin wrote:
On August 05 2012 05:54 Xxavi wrote:
Mana's micro is bad. He just isn't very good is he?


Well he won a dreamhack recently so he's obviously good...

I don't know how he won DreamHack, and how good that tournament was, but it has been very one-sided so far. It's ugly from Mana.


If you're not informed on the players' results and how he got them then speaking out on their skill level as a whole is not a good idea. To each their own.


Yeah I hate this attitude so much.

"Hey look at THIS ONE series, this player must be bad!"

I said in another thread that a player is only as good as the last match he played, sucks how much in the SC2 community that is actually followed.
Glorious SEA doto
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 04 2012 21:04 GMT
#279
On August 05 2012 06:03 Xxavi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 06:00 marttorn wrote:
On August 05 2012 05:59 Xxavi wrote:
On August 05 2012 05:55 Dodgin wrote:
On August 05 2012 05:54 Xxavi wrote:
Mana's micro is bad. He just isn't very good is he?


Well he won a dreamhack recently so he's obviously good...

I don't know how he won DreamHack, and how good that tournament was, but it has been very one-sided so far. It's ugly from Mana.


If you're not informed on the players' results and how he got them then speaking out on their skill level as a whole is not a good idea. To each their own.

I am just posting a comment about the current games. What's wrong with that?
Mana looks like a terrible player.


Everything. It makes you look ignorant.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 21:09:58
August 04 2012 21:05 GMT
#280
ye, i thought the analysis post game 1 was 100% wrong.

hack didnt feel dead defending manas push, he felt he was miles ahead and wanted to avoid a stupid loss, he knows he can sell the bunkers after so doesnt mind over commiting to a defence.

during the mid game, hack was actually ahead in tech, had stim/+1/medivacs on the way and mana had a robo he didnt have the money to use, considering hack was still up in supply while investing in more tech should be a huge clue he has a large advantage.

then the final push showed just how far ahead he was, mana was making 'bad' plays, taking thirds etc, because he knew he was behind and they didnt pay off, no biggy, but to imply that hack is working hard to win the final battle is misleading. mana put his eggs in teching up because it was the only choice, when hack just attacked it was a steam roll.

on the subject of manas micro. it wasnt top tier but it wasnt bad either, i think people are being overly critical on that point, he went nexus first and it got caught, he was probably flustered and just wanted to end the game fast, win or lose, i think he lacked a bit of patience with his stalker control, attacking back in the marines all the time rather than taking the free pot shot then regenerating shields, but i put it down to feeling behind.

my 1 critisism of manas play on that map was scouting with the stalker and sitting in base with the zealot. holding a nexus first is possible with good stalker control, with the stalker at home (knowing theres a chance he wouldnt see a push because of back passage) he could pick off 1/2 marines on the low ground get out 2 sentries and probably hold.

he also misplayed the chrono usage and ffs a bit right at the start.

i think if mana just watches the replay for 2 moments between the games he would still be comfortable nexus first, we will see
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