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Please everyone, stop the balance whining.

This is the only warning before bans will be handed out, effective page 53.
Dali.
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand689 Posts
August 03 2012 14:19 GMT
#981
On August 03 2012 23:10 ZAiNs wrote:
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On August 03 2012 23:07 Dali. wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:02 ceaRshaf wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:01 Dali. wrote:
On August 03 2012 22:57 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 03 2012 22:54 Qikz wrote:
I really don't think Carriers or Motherships should be able to be fungalled. Maybe if they took the damage but could still move? I dunno, seems kind of pointless going late game air against zerg with that many infestors.

I remember when Blizzard made Fungal only hit ground units on PTR, then they changed it back in like a week because of whining. It would be a really good change now, people might actually use Void Rays past the early stages of the game and you could be constantly active with Phoenixes without being worried of a Fungal killing all of them.


And then Zerg defends with what? Mass Queen, Hydra? Yes because they have longevity and utility in a zerg composition....



With corruptors, neural parasite, hydras etc. Oh, but you want one unit. Ok...


Lol you have got to be kidding me.

Hydras in ZvP? What is this 2010?
NP to deal with air units? Yea, that'll work..........
Corrupters? So now I need a spire to deal with early stargates, and to build units which have NO utility once they're built unless the protoss is foolish enough to go Collosus.

Hydras are good in ZvP, or else pros would never make them... Corrupters, no utility? Ever heard of Brood Lords? Also, Colossi are very good against Zerg.


I'm not going to bother. Believe what you want. Proof is in the pudding, the infestor remains as is. I hope you enjoy frustration :D
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
August 03 2012 14:19 GMT
#982
On August 03 2012 23:18 Slardar wrote:
Broodwar reminiscent style by HerO here....... The "Blue" Prism? I think that's HerO's new nickname....... coining it now.... THE BLUE PRISM!!!!!!!

(Spinoff of Kal's nickname, The Red Shuttle, but changed to Blue for Team Liquid, and Prism for SC2)


the red shuttle was better
but the blue prism is pretty great.
I love it.
jojo311
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia903 Posts
August 03 2012 14:19 GMT
#983
Wait, is Idra in a full KOREAN group???????

WTF
Xtreme94
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia282 Posts
August 03 2012 14:19 GMT
#984
HerO come on take that last game!!! Hwaiting!!! You are disallowed to stop at here with your sexy micro and skill...
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
August 03 2012 14:19 GMT
#985
Hero reminds me of Bisu @@
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 03 2012 14:19 GMT
#986
On August 03 2012 23:17 Condor Hero wrote:
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On August 03 2012 23:15 ZAiNs wrote:
I'm really confused by Hero not having Colossi. I feel like he should have thrown down a couple of extra Robos and a Robo Bay a few minutes ago so he could have 4+ Colossi now.

Colossus not as necessary if he controls HT good enough to snipe some Infestors and has tons of Archons to handle broodlings. I think most pros would rather have tons of gateways and the mobility of having a warp prism around.

Just having 2 Colossi helps your army so much though, it's kind of like having a few full energy Templars, and Hero had a ton of money.
DertoQq
Profile Joined October 2010
France906 Posts
August 03 2012 14:19 GMT
#987
On August 03 2012 23:17 vthree wrote:
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On August 03 2012 23:12 Shiori wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:11 vthree wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:10 Shiori wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:09 vthree wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:07 zev318 wrote:
this is so funny to watch, suppy plays same style like 4 games in a row and hero doesnt do anything about it


Hero is too stubborn with his late game style and Suppy has the perfect counter. You cannot outrace Zerg to a late game comp.

What exactly do you propose he do about it? No Protoss is particularly confident in lategame PvZ, which is why all of them avoid it. You're acting as if there's some obviously alternative that every Korean pro just doesn't feel like using.


2 base allin like the other Korean pros?

Lol...so PvZ isn't allowed to be a macro matchup? Like at all?


Yup, at least not a passive macro. Like Blizzard said, matchups are asymmetric. In PvT, T has to do damage early. You can't let Protoss get 3 bases and both tech paths freely. Same with ZvP, if you let Zerg take 4 bases and infestor BL comp, you are basically relying on the Zerg to bunch up for your vortex to win. If they don't bunch up, the P is screwed.

Am I saying this is good? No. But that is the current meta.


"Passive" is not rly the word I would choose to describe Hero's playstyle.
"i've made some empty promises in my life, but hands down that was the most generous" - Michael Scott
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
August 03 2012 14:19 GMT
#988
On August 03 2012 23:16 Mackus wrote:
That was digusting soon as the Vortex ended the Infestors came out dead they had that little time to move.

It's a micro battle. You can Neural the Mothership before it Vortexes you. Really depends. If Suppy hit the Neural, game could have been over for HerO. Zergs have also been using zonal Infested Terrans to get Motherships out of position so they can't get a good Vortex off.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 03 2012 14:20 GMT
#989
On August 03 2012 23:18 gTank wrote:
Recall is not the problem, vortex is.


Split brood lords.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
-shArk-
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany150 Posts
August 03 2012 14:20 GMT
#990
On August 03 2012 23:16 gTank wrote:
I cant wait until the mothership gets taken out of the game...


Yeah because than protoss cannot do anything about broodlord/infestor composition and pvz lategame is totally broken.
sOs - Rain - PartinG
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
August 03 2012 14:20 GMT
#991
On August 03 2012 23:17 Shiori wrote:
My god that was such a huge outplay. The different in multitasking was crazy.


While I do agree, I have seen Korean Zergs fall to HerO way easier than what Suppy did. I am crazy impressed, I did not think he would be that good, he held up for a long, long time.

Still holding Suppy as a favorite; HerO's style is so risky, if he has just one mistake in his play, he will be punished so severely.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 03 2012 14:20 GMT
#992
On August 03 2012 23:16 Pandemona wrote:
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On August 03 2012 23:13 Leyra wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:03 Pandemona wrote:
On August 03 2012 22:57 Leyra wrote:
On August 03 2012 22:55 Pandemona wrote:
WTF
Is wrong with DeMu's TvP It's like he has no clue what he is doing in that match up, he could of a moved that colli small army with what he had...and ran away. Then in the main engangement he balls'd it up wtf. NA must be so bad >.<


Seriously? wtf do people start this NA/EU shit every chance they get. Demuslim has even admitted recently he's felt good about his TvP, maybe he just made a mistake?

God damn, some of the people on this forum are so whiny, it's kind of obnoxious.

So happy for Suppy though, hope he can close it out


Or maybe yo, he lost 3-0 to Bisu after saying his TvP is fine on NA...And he is happy with it from ladder results, gets WTF pwnd by Bischu who i haven't even heard from until he got asked to fill in for someone and beats him 3-0. Then he gets beat by the same strat twice in a row..Mass stalker colli vs bio and viking? wut. He was so ahead in game 4 as well he could of a moved him and thought he was behind or something idk what is wrong with him.


He also later beat Bischu, and Welmu as well. He lost to Nightend, who has been playing really well the entire tournament. Seriously, maybe he just didn't play well those games ? No, it has to be LOL NA SUCKS. Sick of this stupid argument popping up everywhere.


Or the fact he had to cheese his way threw Bischu, winning 3-2. After bischu did stupid things like proxy 2 gate inside her base! NA vs EU vs KR is the standard debate, everyone knows KR is stupidly high level and the NA vs EU always crops up.


There is no use argueing. DemusliM is an excellent player but Terran vs Protoss is not just about the match up, but also about the style used in particular. Why do you think Korean Terrans have struggled with EU Protoss in the past and have beaten every Korean Protoss without the games being close?

EU Protoss were a lot more defensive, Colossi style while Koreans were using a gateway style. DemusliM lost to NightEnD who is very unique from his style and has beaten PuMa 3-0 before. DemusliM losing to him doesn't make him bad or NA bad. The discussion is stupid and the player bashing nothing but unneccessary.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 03 2012 14:20 GMT
#993
On August 03 2012 23:18 Kreb wrote:
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On August 03 2012 23:16 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:15 Kreb wrote:
Suppy really should make roaches against Heros zealot harass. He is overcommiting to getting to the BL/infestor stage. A roach max while Hero was doing his zealot/templar harass and he could have rolled over Heros base.


if he's confident in his brood festor micro what he does is good. however he failed hard :'(

Problem is he is constantly trading inefficient against zealot with lings while Hero gets to work on his economy and tech unhindered at home. He denied the 4th once, thats all. He went from 30 supple up to 20 down in the harassment, and when he finially got his BLs up, Hero was ready. More roaches and continously denying 4th would likely won it.

Yes roaches & something like 2/3 corruptors would have shut down this harassment very hard. At least we can say that this matchup is beautiful (can't believe I say this now!) without roaches & colossi.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Nesto
Profile Joined November 2009
Switzerland1318 Posts
August 03 2012 14:20 GMT
#994
On August 03 2012 23:19 covetousrat wrote:
Hero reminds me of Bisu @@


why? it's an individual league and he passed the first round :p
transcendent one
Profile Joined July 2012
251 Posts
August 03 2012 14:20 GMT
#995
On August 03 2012 23:19 covetousrat wrote:
Hero reminds me of Bisu @@


i wonder why, they don't look alike at all...
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 03 2012 14:20 GMT
#996
On August 03 2012 23:19 leo23 wrote:
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On August 03 2012 23:18 Fabozi wrote:
that infestors they didnt even pop out of the vortex


hahahaa yeah they died instantly


that's what I don't get.. wasn't there a patch at some point so that units that come out of the vortex can't be attacked for 2 seconds?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
August 03 2012 14:20 GMT
#997
Does hero still look stressed out, or has he cooled his nerves?
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
August 03 2012 14:20 GMT
#998
On August 03 2012 23:19 jojo311 wrote:
Wait, is Idra in a full KOREAN group???????

WTF

Yes, I'm sure Group A or B would've been easier for him.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 03 2012 14:21 GMT
#999
On August 03 2012 23:20 Porcelina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:17 Shiori wrote:
My god that was such a huge outplay. The different in multitasking was crazy.


While I do agree, I have seen Korean Zergs fall to HerO way easier than what Suppy did. I am crazy impressed, I did not think he would be that good, he held up for a long, long time.

Still holding Suppy as a favorite; HerO's style is so risky, if he has just one mistake in his play, he will be punished so severely.

I think Suppy will win, because I don't think Hero's (to be fair, or anyone's honestly) PvZ is very stable. Suppy is a capable Zerg player. I don't think he's Code S, or whatever, but I'd say he's probably the best NA Zerg.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 03 2012 14:21 GMT
#1000
On August 03 2012 23:19 covetousrat wrote:
Hero reminds me of Bisu @@

Even the current hair?
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