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Dali.
New Zealand689 Posts
On August 03 2012 23:10 ZAiNs wrote: Hydras are good in ZvP, or else pros would never make them... Corrupters, no utility? Ever heard of Brood Lords? Also, Colossi are very good against Zerg. I'm not going to bother. Believe what you want. Proof is in the pudding, the infestor remains as is. I hope you enjoy frustration :D | ||
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Kznn
Brazil9072 Posts
On August 03 2012 23:18 Slardar wrote: Broodwar reminiscent style by HerO here....... The "Blue" Prism? I think that's HerO's new nickname....... coining it now.... THE BLUE PRISM!!!!!!! (Spinoff of Kal's nickname, The Red Shuttle, but changed to Blue for Team Liquid, and Prism for SC2) the red shuttle was better but the blue prism is pretty great. I love it. | ||
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jojo311
Australia903 Posts
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Xtreme94
Malaysia282 Posts
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covetousrat
2109 Posts
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On August 03 2012 23:17 Condor Hero wrote: Colossus not as necessary if he controls HT good enough to snipe some Infestors and has tons of Archons to handle broodlings. I think most pros would rather have tons of gateways and the mobility of having a warp prism around. Just having 2 Colossi helps your army so much though, it's kind of like having a few full energy Templars, and Hero had a ton of money. | ||
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DertoQq
France906 Posts
On August 03 2012 23:17 vthree wrote: Yup, at least not a passive macro. Like Blizzard said, matchups are asymmetric. In PvT, T has to do damage early. You can't let Protoss get 3 bases and both tech paths freely. Same with ZvP, if you let Zerg take 4 bases and infestor BL comp, you are basically relying on the Zerg to bunch up for your vortex to win. If they don't bunch up, the P is screwed. Am I saying this is good? No. But that is the current meta. "Passive" is not rly the word I would choose to describe Hero's playstyle. | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On August 03 2012 23:16 Mackus wrote: That was digusting soon as the Vortex ended the Infestors came out dead they had that little time to move. It's a micro battle. You can Neural the Mothership before it Vortexes you. Really depends. If Suppy hit the Neural, game could have been over for HerO. Zergs have also been using zonal Infested Terrans to get Motherships out of position so they can't get a good Vortex off. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On August 03 2012 23:18 gTank wrote: Recall is not the problem, vortex is. Split brood lords. | ||
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-shArk-
Germany150 Posts
On August 03 2012 23:16 gTank wrote: I cant wait until the mothership gets taken out of the game... Yeah because than protoss cannot do anything about broodlord/infestor composition and pvz lategame is totally broken. | ||
Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
On August 03 2012 23:17 Shiori wrote: My god that was such a huge outplay. The different in multitasking was crazy. While I do agree, I have seen Korean Zergs fall to HerO way easier than what Suppy did. I am crazy impressed, I did not think he would be that good, he held up for a long, long time. Still holding Suppy as a favorite; HerO's style is so risky, if he has just one mistake in his play, he will be punished so severely. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On August 03 2012 23:16 Pandemona wrote: Or the fact he had to cheese his way threw Bischu, winning 3-2. After bischu did stupid things like proxy 2 gate inside her base! NA vs EU vs KR is the standard debate, everyone knows KR is stupidly high level and the NA vs EU always crops up. There is no use argueing. DemusliM is an excellent player but Terran vs Protoss is not just about the match up, but also about the style used in particular. Why do you think Korean Terrans have struggled with EU Protoss in the past and have beaten every Korean Protoss without the games being close? EU Protoss were a lot more defensive, Colossi style while Koreans were using a gateway style. DemusliM lost to NightEnD who is very unique from his style and has beaten PuMa 3-0 before. DemusliM losing to him doesn't make him bad or NA bad. The discussion is stupid and the player bashing nothing but unneccessary. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On August 03 2012 23:18 Kreb wrote: Problem is he is constantly trading inefficient against zealot with lings while Hero gets to work on his economy and tech unhindered at home. He denied the 4th once, thats all. He went from 30 supple up to 20 down in the harassment, and when he finially got his BLs up, Hero was ready. More roaches and continously denying 4th would likely won it. Yes roaches & something like 2/3 corruptors would have shut down this harassment very hard. At least we can say that this matchup is beautiful (can't believe I say this now!) without roaches & colossi. | ||
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Nesto
Switzerland1318 Posts
On August 03 2012 23:19 covetousrat wrote: Hero reminds me of Bisu @@ why? it's an individual league and he passed the first round :p | ||
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transcendent one
251 Posts
On August 03 2012 23:19 covetousrat wrote: Hero reminds me of Bisu @@ i wonder why, they don't look alike at all... | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
that's what I don't get.. wasn't there a patch at some point so that units that come out of the vortex can't be attacked for 2 seconds? | ||
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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
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Zane
Romania3916 Posts
On August 03 2012 23:19 jojo311 wrote: Wait, is Idra in a full KOREAN group??????? WTF Yes, I'm sure Group A or B would've been easier for him. | ||
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Shiori
3815 Posts
On August 03 2012 23:20 Porcelina wrote: While I do agree, I have seen Korean Zergs fall to HerO way easier than what Suppy did. I am crazy impressed, I did not think he would be that good, he held up for a long, long time. Still holding Suppy as a favorite; HerO's style is so risky, if he has just one mistake in his play, he will be punished so severely. I think Suppy will win, because I don't think Hero's (to be fair, or anyone's honestly) PvZ is very stable. Suppy is a capable Zerg player. I don't think he's Code S, or whatever, but I'd say he's probably the best NA Zerg. | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On August 03 2012 23:19 covetousrat wrote: Hero reminds me of Bisu @@ Even the current hair? | ||
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