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Please everyone, stop the balance whining.

This is the only warning before bans will be handed out, effective page 53.
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
August 03 2012 14:22 GMT
#1021
hwaiting hero!!
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
August 03 2012 14:22 GMT
#1022
lol hero is so good

its too bad carriers are terrible otherwise he would slam everyone
young ho
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 03 2012 14:22 GMT
#1023
On August 03 2012 23:22 provrorsbarn wrote:
omg that probe harass...k im in love

Mana's vs Taeja was better
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 03 2012 14:22 GMT
#1024
how can you let a drone die to a probe ffs. some ppl have to micro scv stucked while they're building...
Zest fanboy.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 03 2012 14:23 GMT
#1025
On August 03 2012 23:22 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:22 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Can't watch atm. This is game 5 right? Did hero just win or is it still going?

game 5 just starting

hero killing a drone with the scout probe >.>

Ah thanks. I checked liquipedia before coming here and saw 2-2 then saw all the hero winning stuff in lr so I didn't know if it was from game 4 or 5
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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
August 03 2012 14:23 GMT
#1026
Side note: Welmu won against elfi (twice) in IeSF Finland and got a paid trip to represent Finland at the IeSF 2012 World Championship in Cheon-an City, Korea.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IeSF_2012_World_Championship/Qualifiers/Finland
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 03 2012 14:23 GMT
#1027
On August 03 2012 23:19 DertoQq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:17 vthree wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:12 Shiori wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:11 vthree wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:10 Shiori wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:09 vthree wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:07 zev318 wrote:
this is so funny to watch, suppy plays same style like 4 games in a row and hero doesnt do anything about it


Hero is too stubborn with his late game style and Suppy has the perfect counter. You cannot outrace Zerg to a late game comp.

What exactly do you propose he do about it? No Protoss is particularly confident in lategame PvZ, which is why all of them avoid it. You're acting as if there's some obviously alternative that every Korean pro just doesn't feel like using.


2 base allin like the other Korean pros?

Lol...so PvZ isn't allowed to be a macro matchup? Like at all?


Yup, at least not a passive macro. Like Blizzard said, matchups are asymmetric. In PvT, T has to do damage early. You can't let Protoss get 3 bases and both tech paths freely. Same with ZvP, if you let Zerg take 4 bases and infestor BL comp, you are basically relying on the Zerg to bunch up for your vortex to win. If they don't bunch up, the P is screwed.

Am I saying this is good? No. But that is the current meta.


"Passive" is not rly the word I would choose to describe Hero's playstyle.


In game 3, he lost a lot of zealots trying to kill the 4th the first time. And he was force to be passive for a bit which was the window which allowed Suppy to get a critical mass of BL, corrupters and infestors. Yes, after that, HerO was all over the place but it was a bit too late since there was no way to kill that army ( unless Suppy let Hero build up to like 12 carriers)
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 03 2012 14:23 GMT
#1028
On August 03 2012 23:22 sAsImre wrote:
how can you let a drone die to a probe ffs. some ppl have to micro scv stucked while they're building...

Mana killed two SCVs versus Taeja!
gogogogo HERO
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Leyra
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1222 Posts
August 03 2012 14:24 GMT
#1029
On August 03 2012 23:16 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:13 Leyra wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:03 Pandemona wrote:
On August 03 2012 22:57 Leyra wrote:
On August 03 2012 22:55 Pandemona wrote:
WTF
Is wrong with DeMu's TvP It's like he has no clue what he is doing in that match up, he could of a moved that colli small army with what he had...and ran away. Then in the main engangement he balls'd it up wtf. NA must be so bad >.<


Seriously? wtf do people start this NA/EU shit every chance they get. Demuslim has even admitted recently he's felt good about his TvP, maybe he just made a mistake?

God damn, some of the people on this forum are so whiny, it's kind of obnoxious.

So happy for Suppy though, hope he can close it out


Or maybe yo, he lost 3-0 to Bisu after saying his TvP is fine on NA...And he is happy with it from ladder results, gets WTF pwnd by Bischu who i haven't even heard from until he got asked to fill in for someone and beats him 3-0. Then he gets beat by the same strat twice in a row..Mass stalker colli vs bio and viking? wut. He was so ahead in game 4 as well he could of a moved him and thought he was behind or something idk what is wrong with him.


He also later beat Bischu, and Welmu as well. He lost to Nightend, who has been playing really well the entire tournament. Seriously, maybe he just didn't play well those games ? No, it has to be LOL NA SUCKS. Sick of this stupid argument popping up everywhere.


Or the fact he had to cheese his way threw Bischu, winning 3-2. After bischu did stupid things like proxy 2 gate inside her base! NA vs EU vs KR is the standard debate, everyone knows KR is stupidly high level and the NA vs EU always crops up.


Dang, Suppy is 2-2 with Hero, KR must suck, right? Losing 2 games to some shitty NA scrub? Seriously dude, there's so much more that goes into games than "he lost, must be cause NA sucks." All you do is sound ignorant.

Demuslim showed some fantastic games, and got out of his first group, but fell in a tough second group. Instead of bitching about how shitty NA is, why not be happy for this player that you're probably a fan of for a pretty good showing.

DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
August 03 2012 14:24 GMT
#1030
5:30
Suppy going for three bases.

Hero getting a second gas after a forge expand.
Liquid | SKT
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 03 2012 14:24 GMT
#1031
On August 03 2012 23:23 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:22 sAsImre wrote:
how can you let a drone die to a probe ffs. some ppl have to micro scv stucked while they're building...

Mana killed two SCVs versus Taeja!
gogogogo HERO


I just want to gg at this moment when it happens...
Zest fanboy.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 03 2012 14:24 GMT
#1032
Weren't units that come out of a vortex supposed to be invulnerable for 2 seconds?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15358 Posts
August 03 2012 14:24 GMT
#1033
Everyone:

Stop the balance whining

Last and only warning.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
August 03 2012 14:24 GMT
#1034
even though my heart is with liquid, I hope suppy wins this series. i hate myself
#1 Grubby Fan.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 14:31:01
August 03 2012 14:24 GMT
#1035
On August 03 2012 23:20 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:16 Pandemona wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:13 Leyra wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:03 Pandemona wrote:
On August 03 2012 22:57 Leyra wrote:
On August 03 2012 22:55 Pandemona wrote:
WTF
Is wrong with DeMu's TvP It's like he has no clue what he is doing in that match up, he could of a moved that colli small army with what he had...and ran away. Then in the main engangement he balls'd it up wtf. NA must be so bad >.<


Seriously? wtf do people start this NA/EU shit every chance they get. Demuslim has even admitted recently he's felt good about his TvP, maybe he just made a mistake?

God damn, some of the people on this forum are so whiny, it's kind of obnoxious.

So happy for Suppy though, hope he can close it out


Or maybe yo, he lost 3-0 to Bisu after saying his TvP is fine on NA...And he is happy with it from ladder results, gets WTF pwnd by Bischu who i haven't even heard from until he got asked to fill in for someone and beats him 3-0. Then he gets beat by the same strat twice in a row..Mass stalker colli vs bio and viking? wut. He was so ahead in game 4 as well he could of a moved him and thought he was behind or something idk what is wrong with him.


He also later beat Bischu, and Welmu as well. He lost to Nightend, who has been playing really well the entire tournament. Seriously, maybe he just didn't play well those games ? No, it has to be LOL NA SUCKS. Sick of this stupid argument popping up everywhere.


Or the fact he had to cheese his way threw Bischu, winning 3-2. After bischu did stupid things like proxy 2 gate inside her base! NA vs EU vs KR is the standard debate, everyone knows KR is stupidly high level and the NA vs EU always crops up.


There is no use argueing. DemusliM is an excellent player but Terran vs Protoss is not just about the match up, but also about the style used in particular. Why do you think Korean Terrans have struggled with EU Protoss in the past and have beaten every Korean Protoss without the games being close?

EU Protoss were a lot more defensive, Colossi style while Koreans were using a gateway style. DemusliM lost to NightEnD who is very unique from his style and has beaten PuMa 3-0 before. DemusliM losing to him doesn't make him bad or NA bad. The discussion is stupid and the player bashing nothing but unneccessary.


Did you watch the games Naruto ffs. NightEnd does the same style every single game, he beat Puma with the same style. Blink Stalker + Colli mix, how DeMu is not able to beat that after seeing the games vs Puma i have no idea! He was sick TvP when he was in EU and before he began his long stint in NA. He was a beast, so many sick builds he did. Then he turns up and 3-0'd vs Bischu who like i said has been no where. NightEnd is good no question, but when u have 3 games of him vs ur team mate to study him from and u lose the same way its stupid. Plus it's not like he got beat hard, he got beat by himself. He could of won the 4th game quite easily. Was ahead by 20 supply and had a 10 supply army lead and some reason thought he was behind...It's crazy.

On August 03 2012 23:24 Leyra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:16 Pandemona wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:13 Leyra wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:03 Pandemona wrote:
On August 03 2012 22:57 Leyra wrote:
On August 03 2012 22:55 Pandemona wrote:
WTF
Is wrong with DeMu's TvP It's like he has no clue what he is doing in that match up, he could of a moved that colli small army with what he had...and ran away. Then in the main engangement he balls'd it up wtf. NA must be so bad >.<


Seriously? wtf do people start this NA/EU shit every chance they get. Demuslim has even admitted recently he's felt good about his TvP, maybe he just made a mistake?

God damn, some of the people on this forum are so whiny, it's kind of obnoxious.

So happy for Suppy though, hope he can close it out


Or maybe yo, he lost 3-0 to Bisu after saying his TvP is fine on NA...And he is happy with it from ladder results, gets WTF pwnd by Bischu who i haven't even heard from until he got asked to fill in for someone and beats him 3-0. Then he gets beat by the same strat twice in a row..Mass stalker colli vs bio and viking? wut. He was so ahead in game 4 as well he could of a moved him and thought he was behind or something idk what is wrong with him.


He also later beat Bischu, and Welmu as well. He lost to Nightend, who has been playing really well the entire tournament. Seriously, maybe he just didn't play well those games ? No, it has to be LOL NA SUCKS. Sick of this stupid argument popping up everywhere.


Or the fact he had to cheese his way threw Bischu, winning 3-2. After bischu did stupid things like proxy 2 gate inside her base! NA vs EU vs KR is the standard debate, everyone knows KR is stupidly high level and the NA vs EU always crops up.


Dang, Suppy is 2-2 with Hero, KR must suck, right? Losing 2 games to some shitty NA scrub? Seriously dude, there's so much more that goes into games than "he lost, must be cause NA sucks." All you do is sound ignorant.

Demuslim showed some fantastic games, and got out of his first group, but fell in a tough second group. Instead of bitching about how shitty NA is, why not be happy for this player that you're probably a fan of for a pretty good showing.



Or maybe, your taking the point in the wrong way....
Yes DeMu played well vs Taeja but again he beat himself in some engangements, being ahead and messing up. No question he played well vs Taeja and was good for DeMu, but he is better than what he did vs NightEnd, way better and nothing good came out of that series. Apart from out macro'n him in game 1. Again his TvP was better when he was playing in EU
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dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
August 03 2012 14:24 GMT
#1036
One does not simply, playing macro pvz on metropolis.

go go HerO, 7 gate robo!
!LL
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria256 Posts
August 03 2012 14:24 GMT
#1037
hope nightend wins so we can have an interview with him
<(^-^<) (>^-^)>
ohampatu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1448 Posts
August 03 2012 14:25 GMT
#1038
On August 03 2012 23:21 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:19 covetousrat wrote:
Hero reminds me of Bisu @@


If anything, Seed wins the Bisu lookalike award



HerO is called mini-Bisu not for looks. Although his looks are top notch as well :/

HerO is called mini-Bisu because of his PvZ and how he plays a playstyle similar to Bisu.
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 03 2012 14:25 GMT
#1039
On August 03 2012 23:24 zatic wrote:
Everyone:

Stop the balance whining

Last and only warning.

I'm so accustomed to it that I hardly even notice it by now lol
transcendent one
Profile Joined July 2012
251 Posts
August 03 2012 14:25 GMT
#1040
On August 03 2012 23:24 Derrida wrote:
even though my heart is with liquid, I hope suppy wins this series. i hate myself


hey its not obligatory to root for liquid even if its tl.net
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