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Please everyone, stop the balance whining.

This is the only warning before bans will be handed out, effective page 53.
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
August 03 2012 14:17 GMT
#961
Heroes play looks so sexy when it works, and so pointless when it doesn't. It makes me nervous always.

Go Hero (but suppy is cute too)
Liquid | SKT
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
August 03 2012 14:17 GMT
#962
On August 03 2012 23:16 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Is that cArn behind HerO?

Titan
I've got moves like Jagger
MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
August 03 2012 14:17 GMT
#963
Someone must draw an archon sitting on a toilet, reading Zergs Daily.
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
August 03 2012 14:17 GMT
#964
On August 03 2012 23:15 ZAiNs wrote:
I'm really confused by Hero not having Colossi. I feel like he should have thrown down a couple of extra Robos and a Robo Bay a few minutes ago so he could have 4+ Colossi now.

Colossus not as necessary if he controls HT good enough to snipe some Infestors and has tons of Archons to handle broodlings. I think most pros would rather have tons of gateways and the mobility of having a warp prism around.
tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
August 03 2012 14:17 GMT
#965
On August 03 2012 23:16 gTank wrote:
I cant wait until the mothership gets taken out of the game...

and recall becomes an early game spell
Iblis
Profile Joined April 2010
904 Posts
August 03 2012 14:17 GMT
#966
Hero so STRONK
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 03 2012 14:17 GMT
#967
On August 03 2012 23:12 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:11 vthree wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:10 Shiori wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:09 vthree wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:07 zev318 wrote:
this is so funny to watch, suppy plays same style like 4 games in a row and hero doesnt do anything about it


Hero is too stubborn with his late game style and Suppy has the perfect counter. You cannot outrace Zerg to a late game comp.

What exactly do you propose he do about it? No Protoss is particularly confident in lategame PvZ, which is why all of them avoid it. You're acting as if there's some obviously alternative that every Korean pro just doesn't feel like using.


2 base allin like the other Korean pros?

Lol...so PvZ isn't allowed to be a macro matchup? Like at all?


Yup, at least not a passive macro. Like Blizzard said, matchups are asymmetric. In PvT, T has to do damage early. You can't let Protoss get 3 bases and both tech paths freely. Same with ZvP, if you let Zerg take 4 bases and infestor BL comp, you are basically relying on the Zerg to bunch up for your vortex to win. If they don't bunch up, the P is screwed.

Am I saying this is good? No. But that is the current meta.
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
August 03 2012 14:17 GMT
#968
I was pretty sure Hero is going to lose anyways but somehow he killed the deathball
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 03 2012 14:18 GMT
#969
On August 03 2012 23:15 ZAiNs wrote:
I'm really confused by Hero not having Colossi. I feel like he should have thrown down a couple of extra Robos and a Robo Bay a few minutes ago so he could have 4+ Colossi now.

It would have been dead money. What would be their use? He faced BL/infestors basing his play on dodging the BL & harassment while macroing up behind this. Colossi are too slow to dance around like this.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Mosquitow
Profile Joined September 2011
England510 Posts
August 03 2012 14:18 GMT
#970
On August 03 2012 23:16 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Is that cArn behind HerO?

Titan?
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
August 03 2012 14:18 GMT
#971
Broodwar reminiscent style by HerO here....... The "Blue" Prism? I think that's HerO's new nickname....... coining it now.... THE BLUE PRISM!!!!!!!

(Spinoff of Kal's nickname, The Red Shuttle, but changed to Blue for Team Liquid, and Prism for SC2)
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
August 03 2012 14:18 GMT
#972
On August 03 2012 23:16 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:15 Kreb wrote:
Suppy really should make roaches against Heros zealot harass. He is overcommiting to getting to the BL/infestor stage. A roach max while Hero was doing his zealot/templar harass and he could have rolled over Heros base.


if he's confident in his brood festor micro what he does is good. however he failed hard :'(

Problem is he is constantly trading inefficient against zealot with lings while Hero gets to work on his economy and tech unhindered at home. He denied the 4th once, thats all. He went from 30 supple up to 20 down in the harassment, and when he finially got his BLs up, Hero was ready. More roaches and continously denying 4th would likely won it.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 03 2012 14:18 GMT
#973
On August 03 2012 23:16 gTank wrote:
I cant wait until the mothership gets taken out of the game...

Same. Maybe then Protoss will get a composition that can fight BL/Infestor and the matchup will have a fun lategame.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2610 Posts
August 03 2012 14:18 GMT
#974
Recall is not the problem, vortex is.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 03 2012 14:18 GMT
#975
Hero tried really hard to give the win to Suppy in the midgame (attacking into spines/infest...) but nice comeback after.
Zest fanboy.
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 03 2012 14:18 GMT
#976
On August 03 2012 23:17 Daray wrote:
I was pretty sure Hero is going to lose anyways but somehow he killed the deathball

he probably could of killed it without the mothership
Fabozi
Profile Joined March 2011
Slovakia336 Posts
August 03 2012 14:18 GMT
#977
that infestors they didnt even pop out of the vortex
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
August 03 2012 14:19 GMT
#978
On August 03 2012 23:18 Fabozi wrote:
that infestors they didnt even pop out of the vortex


hahahaa yeah they died instantly
banelings
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 03 2012 14:19 GMT
#979
On August 03 2012 23:17 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:12 Shiori wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:11 vthree wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:10 Shiori wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:09 vthree wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:07 zev318 wrote:
this is so funny to watch, suppy plays same style like 4 games in a row and hero doesnt do anything about it


Hero is too stubborn with his late game style and Suppy has the perfect counter. You cannot outrace Zerg to a late game comp.

What exactly do you propose he do about it? No Protoss is particularly confident in lategame PvZ, which is why all of them avoid it. You're acting as if there's some obviously alternative that every Korean pro just doesn't feel like using.


2 base allin like the other Korean pros?

Lol...so PvZ isn't allowed to be a macro matchup? Like at all?


Yup, at least not a passive macro. Like Blizzard said, matchups are asymmetric. In PvT, T has to do damage early. You can't let Protoss get 3 bases and both tech paths freely. Same with ZvP, if you let Zerg take 4 bases and infestor BL comp, you are basically relying on the Zerg to bunch up for your vortex to win. If they don't bunch up, the P is screwed.

Am I saying this is good? No. But that is the current meta.

Do not compare Terran's role in TvP to 2base all-inning in PvZ. The two aren't even remotely similar, lol. I don't want to have a balance discussion here, but please do not think that Terran is in the same boat that it was 6 months ago against Toss.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 03 2012 14:19 GMT
#980
On August 03 2012 23:18 sam05396 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:17 Daray wrote:
I was pretty sure Hero is going to lose anyways but somehow he killed the deathball

he probably could of killed it without the mothership


you're serious? fungaled army into gg when 15+ blords are on the field...
Zest fanboy.
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