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GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1837 Posts
August 02 2012 19:42 GMT
#3321
On August 03 2012 04:40 Type|NarutO wrote:
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On August 03 2012 04:38 Sated wrote:
Where are the "Suppy only wins 3-0 because Kas is tired" people at?


They are still strong I guess. Can't say how it would have went if Kas is in good condition. Could be the same, but I for mypart do also think it was Kas' lack of sleep. Just that some of us don't blame Suppy for winning. Not his fault Kas was tired.


Yeah, you bloom where you're planted. Not SuperiorWolf's fault that he got put in a group that may have been easier than others and he's taking full advantage of it.. and for the people saying he cheesed Ret, yeah if I knew I could easily win a series by abusing my opponent's build I'd take that advantage as well.
Mask DeMasque
Profile Joined February 2012
United States415 Posts
August 02 2012 19:42 GMT
#3322
forgg: "Terran is very bad..." lol
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
August 02 2012 19:42 GMT
#3323
On August 03 2012 04:39 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Gogo Zombie Terran you can do it!

Ahahaha, I love you!
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
August 02 2012 19:42 GMT
#3324
On August 03 2012 04:38 MrMercuG wrote:
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On August 03 2012 04:36 Zeon0 wrote:
lol @ slapping himself

but Kas is used to be tired, cause he plays many EU online tournaments and in Ukraine is 2 hourse in front of EU


Most EU tournaments are mid-day or later.

many of them end at like midnight, which is late for Ukraine if you have a 'normal' sleeping schedule
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Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
August 02 2012 19:42 GMT
#3325
On August 03 2012 04:41 Zeon0 wrote:
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On August 03 2012 04:37 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:36 Zeon0 wrote:
lol @ slapping himself

but Kas is used to be tired, cause he plays many EU online tournaments and in Ukraine is 2 hourse in front of EU

????????????

Gamers have all sorts of sleeping schedules. Playing late doesn't imply being tired if you don't have a wake-up time?

but i know he said more than once something like 'pls start, i'm tired'


Well that's great but what does it have to do with anything? You play shit when you're tired, you don't get used to it wtf man -_-
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 02 2012 19:42 GMT
#3326
This is funny and tragic at the same time hahaha
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VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
August 02 2012 19:42 GMT
#3327
I have sick respect for Kas now.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
August 02 2012 19:42 GMT
#3328
--- Nuked ---
provrorsbarn
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden766 Posts
August 02 2012 19:42 GMT
#3329
Jesus christ that overlord.......so unlucky
Im just a zerg
Math.random();
Profile Joined July 2011
433 Posts
August 02 2012 19:42 GMT
#3330
Kas has perfect rax placement :D
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
August 02 2012 19:42 GMT
#3331
On August 03 2012 04:41 Wombat_NI wrote:
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On August 03 2012 04:39 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Gogo Zombie Terran you can do it!

I dunno, he looks more like Panda Terran to me.

GOGO Kas!


Haha you are right :D
Panda Zombie Terran fighting!
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CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
August 02 2012 19:42 GMT
#3332
holy shit that was tense
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vommy
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany532 Posts
August 02 2012 19:43 GMT
#3333
Damn that Overlord, lol
Oh, I'm chasing this guy. [Dodd shoots at Leonard] No... he's chasing me.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 02 2012 19:43 GMT
#3334
Perfect proxy location. ret has no idea
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fakgfdgfdh
Profile Joined May 2012
79 Posts
August 02 2012 19:43 GMT
#3335
On August 03 2012 03:59 Whatson wrote:
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On August 03 2012 03:56 fakgfdgfdh wrote:

On August 03 2012 02:31 Whatson wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:28 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:27 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:25 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:23 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:21 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:19 TheDwf wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:18 sAsImre wrote:
haha forgg with the double cc after cloack shee :d

Yeah, he does the same thing in ladder...


i should watch him ladder a bit. Some of his builds are like really good at lower levels if you've a decent control.

On August 03 2012 02:21 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:19 sAsImre wrote:
[quote]

this build is awesome cause Jonny will not go spire.


And it is working out soooooooo well, isn't it?


ok you're blind. double CC after cloack shee first time in this serie.


There is no point in going cloaked banshee against this opening. You can get faster upgrades, more infantry and a faster third.


you don't know the purpose of mind games that's all.
He showed the eact same stuff as when he allined except this time with a fucking greedy opening.
And REcco made unit without attacking against a mother fucking greedy build.


And if ForGG was really smart he wouldn't be banking on a simple mindgame because he would've already won this series.


CosmicSpiral officially knows better than forGG what forGG should do. I'm so impressed and jealous of such a smart guy.

That's such a flimsy argument to make.



On August 03 2012 02:34 Whatson wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:32 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:31 Whatson wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:28 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:27 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:25 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:23 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:21 sAsImre wrote:
[quote]

i should watch him ladder a bit. Some of his builds are like really good at lower levels if you've a decent control.

[quote]

ok you're blind. double CC after cloack shee first time in this serie.


There is no point in going cloaked banshee against this opening. You can get faster upgrades, more infantry and a faster third.


you don't know the purpose of mind games that's all.
He showed the eact same stuff as when he allined except this time with a fucking greedy opening.
And REcco made unit without attacking against a mother fucking greedy build.


And if ForGG was really smart he wouldn't be banking on a simple mindgame because he would've already won this series.


CosmicSpiral officially knows better than forGG what forGG should do. I'm so impressed and jealous of such a smart guy.

That's such a flimsy argument to make.

or not

better than pretending than one of the best rts players is dumb.

Because the best rts players can't make stupid mistakes sometimes. Okay.

what mistakes

rofl we're not even talking about the same series

what

On August 03 2012 03:59 Shikyo wrote:
ForGG should know that you just don't play 200 vs 200 turtle mine map out-games against Satiini, he's like the best in the world at that

i pray youre joking

On August 03 2012 04:04 TemujinGK wrote:
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On August 03 2012 04:02 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:40 Shikyo wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:38 Resilient wrote:
16 year old barely loses to ForGG in a 3-2 series and some people here flame him for being arrogant/being inexperienced enough to apply ladder results to tournaments

stay classy

Implying being 16 is a disadvantage? I'd say that's the best age for a player

seems likely as i cant think of a single player whos ever peaked at 16


you didn't follow bw did you?

15-20 is peak time for gaming. Flash started destroying face when he was 15, Grubby + Moon were in their late teens when they achieved demigod status in china in wc3

thats what im talking about
you didnt follow bw did you?
I cant think of a single player whos ever peaked at 16.
flash didnt peak at 16, grubby moon didnt peak at 16.
so for what player has 16 been the best age?
KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
August 02 2012 19:44 GMT
#3336
On August 03 2012 04:36 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 04:34 KingofGods wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:29 Waxangel wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:28 KingofGods wrote:
Well, if I had a big lan to play in I would plan it so that I am at the location at least a few days before hand, if not a week to get accustomed to the surroundings, weather, etc. Just look at these Olympians for example, were any of them 1 flight delay away from almost missing the event? Of course not. If you can't dedicate yourself to the event, then you might as well not show up in my opinion.


lodging isn't cheap


Of course not, but neither is being a pro-gamer. But hey, that's the choice he made. I sure hope he isn't going to complain about it.

Players don't decide how long in advance of a tournament they arrive.

Arriving that early at a tournament you don't have practice conditions there, so you're pretty much just wasting your time. Good idea though. Maybe we can host a tournament once every four years and take your advice.


Events and championships occur all throughout the year, every year, not just every four years.......

Maybe the players/managers/coaches/sponsors can take the game more seriously if they want to win.
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
August 02 2012 19:44 GMT
#3337
On August 03 2012 04:30 TemujinGK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 04:26 Wegandi wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:16 TemujinGK wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:15 Wegandi wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:05 FatBat wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:02 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:40 Shikyo wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:38 Resilient wrote:
16 year old barely loses to ForGG in a 3-2 series and some people here flame him for being arrogant/being inexperienced enough to apply ladder results to tournaments

stay classy

Implying being 16 is a disadvantage? I'd say that's the best age for a player

seems likely as i cant think of a single player whos ever peaked at 16

I think in theory its best age because your brain is at his peak aswell as physically, BUT at 16 you have school and in generell not so much time to play( parents etc.)



Physical peak is late 20s, and mental peak generally is mid 20s, even though some other functions like spatial reasoning peaks in your late 50s. The reason you see teenagers doing so well is because they have less priorities and responsibilities. As much as we might like to say that gaming is mainstream, it really isn't, at least not yet. Many people lose their passion also the more they play the game. Just look at NaDa. His abilities didn't decline because of some physical or mental diminishing, but because his priorities shifted.

Let's also not forget the fact that Korean gamers are interrupted for years in the early 20s due to conscription. I think it's a bit silly to say that playing Starcraft is more physically or mentally demanding than say, Nolan Ryan pitching at age 43. If major league baseball players can still be on the top of the world in their late 30s in such a demanding sport, what makes you think that humans can't play starcraft in their early and mid twenties at the top of the game?



I mean just because you say things confidently does not make them correct.

p.s. SaSe has this base race in the bag


I excuse your ignorance.

http://www.brainhealthhacks.com/2011/01/06/how-much-cognitive-ability-do-we-lose-over-time-as-we-age/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14735112
http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/~bradd/gabrieli_2004_nrn1323.pdf

NaDa's declining results correlate directly with going to school as well as changing physiological wants (read: significant other). It's quite difficult to lead a family and play starcraft at the highest level, that's why you see players taper off, not because of any mental or physical decline.



As an american I can finally understand why the world sees us as douchebags. You sir, soil our country's name.

You link to a site 'brainhealthhacks' which has next to zero credibility, as well as a pubmed article by a series of individuals two of which who have been investigated for research misconduct and even despite that they acknowledge the uncertainty of their findings within their own paper! The variability that they acknowledge is massive.



I linked to brainhealth because it linked to the Harvard paper, which would be obvious if you spent a few seconds looking at something other than the title of the website. Secondly, neither John Gabrieli or Trey Hedden have been investigated for research misconduct. Consider this: Gabrieli is a leading professor and researcher in the field @ MIT, as well as being a fellow at the American Association for the Advance of Science..

PS: The pubmed article only has two authors, the same two of the harvard paper.

We can all read the conclusion of the paper for ourselves, and far from saying all the previous work was in err, it simply stated that "As this review indicates, much progress has been made in characterizing the behavioural and neural changes, particularly in memory systems, that are associated with advancing age. Nonetheless, much remains unknown and researchers are grappling with several controversial questions."

Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 02 2012 19:44 GMT
#3338
On August 03 2012 04:42 GoShox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 04:40 Type|NarutO wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:38 Sated wrote:
Where are the "Suppy only wins 3-0 because Kas is tired" people at?


They are still strong I guess. Can't say how it would have went if Kas is in good condition. Could be the same, but I for mypart do also think it was Kas' lack of sleep. Just that some of us don't blame Suppy for winning. Not his fault Kas was tired.


Yeah, you bloom where you're planted. Not SuperiorWolf's fault that he got put in a group that may have been easier than others and he's taking full advantage of it.. and for the people saying he cheesed Ret, yeah if I knew I could easily win a series by abusing my opponent's build I'd take that advantage as well.


No one can blame any player for doing everything to win if its within the rules. Hell if I would play ret and my chances in a macro game would be like 0%, I'd go for 2 rax just like Kas because ret is known for being greedy and it doesn't matter how good you are if you get hit with a full counter to your build you will eventually die.

Just clever play by Suppy and to be honest, Kas & ret are 2 excellent players.. just because MeteoRain isn't known, doesn't mean he isn't good. Ret made lots of Protoss look horrible in the past, even the big names.
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Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
August 02 2012 19:44 GMT
#3339
why did ret cancel that second spine, he could have denied both bunkers that are pushing right now, hes so greedy ><
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 02 2012 19:45 GMT
#3340
Kas had like 15 seconds to focus that spine at the natural, he could have broken that. I don't get why he waited. Also before that he had another chance but he again didn't attack... maybe it'll work anyway hum
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