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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25330 Posts
August 02 2012 19:23 GMT
#3221
On August 03 2012 04:16 Incomplet wrote:
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On August 03 2012 03:53 nojok wrote:
Am I the only one who does not like seeing a caster with a team jersey? It's not that important but it just feels wrong to me.


Nope I agree, casters should be wearing shits and possibly even a tie. I understand that they have to please the sponsors, but if they are casting then they also should retain a certain standard of professionalism. I'm also not a fan of casters swearing, this is not good for trying to get the younger generations into E-sports, because many parents wont like their kids listening to such vulgarity.


Oh give me a break. They barely swear at all, and do you really think 10 year olds or something will be watching this? There isn't anything non-professional about team jersey's anyway.


Well there is a 16 year old participating in this tournament. So I wouldn't be surprised if there were a number of 10-15 year olds watching. Put yourself in the position of a parent, would you want your child sitting down watching people who swear? Don't me wrong, if its a laid back casual 1on1 interview, I dont care, but when something like this is on air and has 30k+ viewers, they need to cater to all ages.

It's a european tournament, I don't know about American teenagers but have you ever heard the average European teen talk? :D


Of course the average american and european teenager swear a lot nowadays, or any other country for that matter. But that is still not a reason to swear on air with so many viewers. With that mind-set why not news-reporters swear on air? No kids watch the news right? Thats because its unprofessional - period.

Wow what a sissy!


What an immature child who has no knowledge about professionalism or the real world.

Professionalism isn't necessarily always good, look at the archetypal American news presenter, so godamn insincere it's unbelievable. Give me a bit of swearing and lapses of that kind any day over those robots.


If its not important, then why do MLG and GOMTV casters wear shirts and not swear?

Because that is what is considered professional behaviour, and they've acknowledged this a lot on SoTG. Personally I don't really place importance in such things, but hey it's a preference thing.
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ganil
Profile Joined August 2009
253 Posts
August 02 2012 19:23 GMT
#3222
I have faith. It's not over yet. Gogo superkas.
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
August 02 2012 19:23 GMT
#3223
On August 03 2012 04:22 Derrida wrote:
ret seems like he lost a lot of weight, and he's breathing from his nose, wtf?

omg its a miracle!

ret has always been Terminator.
TemujinGK
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States483 Posts
August 02 2012 19:23 GMT
#3224
anyone have VOD to the TLO games vNazgul and Idra that incontrol and apollo are talking about?
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Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
August 02 2012 19:24 GMT
#3225
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[quote]

Well there is a 16 year old participating in this tournament. So I wouldn't be surprised if there were a number of 10-15 year olds watching. Put yourself in the position of a parent, would you want your child sitting down watching people who swear? Don't me wrong, if its a laid back casual 1on1 interview, I dont care, but when something like this is on air and has 30k+ viewers, they need to cater to all ages.

It's a european tournament, I don't know about American teenagers but have you ever heard the average European teen talk? :D


Of course the average american and european teenager swear a lot nowadays, or any other country for that matter. But that is still not a reason to swear on air with so many viewers. With that mind-set why not news-reporters swear on air? No kids watch the news right? Thats because its unprofessional - period.

Wow what a sissy!


What an immature child who has no knowledge about professionalism or the real world.

Professionalism isn't necessarily always good, look at the archetypal American news presenter, so godamn insincere it's unbelievable. Give me a bit of swearing and lapses of that kind any day over those robots.


If its not important, then why do MLG and GOMTV casters wear shirts and not swear?

Probably because someone told them to.

You could compare having a cast with them wearing suits vs them wearing t-shirts and comparing viewer numbers I guess.


Exactly, and why do you think "someone" told them not to ?

Because if the 1/10000 guy complains they can blame the caster since they've told them not to


Wrong, because its unprofessional. I'm sorry but swearing has and always will be unprofessional, that is just the way the world is. People just need to come to terms with that.
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Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
August 02 2012 19:25 GMT
#3226
dat joke lol
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GregMandel
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
France822 Posts
August 02 2012 19:25 GMT
#3227
Hahahaha poor adebisi this is so funny :D
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TemujinGK
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States483 Posts
August 02 2012 19:25 GMT
#3228
LOL adebesi failed caster turned observer
"Pikachu and Protoss are both yellow, Coincidence?" ~apexMorroW
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
August 02 2012 19:25 GMT
#3229
LOL Satiini vs Forgg :D
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
August 02 2012 19:25 GMT
#3230
hahaha adebisi , poor guy <3
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Killerkrack
Profile Joined August 2010
664 Posts
August 02 2012 19:26 GMT
#3231
Just got home and wow I'm surprised Suppy took 1st in the group. I gave him a shot at making it out but I certainly favored Kas and Ret.
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
August 02 2012 19:26 GMT
#3232
On August 03 2012 04:16 TemujinGK wrote:
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On August 03 2012 04:05 FatBat wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:02 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:40 Shikyo wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:38 Resilient wrote:
16 year old barely loses to ForGG in a 3-2 series and some people here flame him for being arrogant/being inexperienced enough to apply ladder results to tournaments

stay classy

Implying being 16 is a disadvantage? I'd say that's the best age for a player

seems likely as i cant think of a single player whos ever peaked at 16

I think in theory its best age because your brain is at his peak aswell as physically, BUT at 16 you have school and in generell not so much time to play( parents etc.)



Physical peak is late 20s, and mental peak generally is mid 20s, even though some other functions like spatial reasoning peaks in your late 50s. The reason you see teenagers doing so well is because they have less priorities and responsibilities. As much as we might like to say that gaming is mainstream, it really isn't, at least not yet. Many people lose their passion also the more they play the game. Just look at NaDa. His abilities didn't decline because of some physical or mental diminishing, but because his priorities shifted.

Let's also not forget the fact that Korean gamers are interrupted for years in the early 20s due to conscription. I think it's a bit silly to say that playing Starcraft is more physically or mentally demanding than say, Nolan Ryan pitching at age 43. If major league baseball players can still be on the top of the world in their late 30s in such a demanding sport, what makes you think that humans can't play starcraft in their early and mid twenties at the top of the game?



I mean just because you say things confidently does not make them correct.

p.s. SaSe has this base race in the bag


I excuse your ignorance.

http://www.brainhealthhacks.com/2011/01/06/how-much-cognitive-ability-do-we-lose-over-time-as-we-age/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14735112
http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/~bradd/gabrieli_2004_nrn1323.pdf

NaDa's declining results correlate directly with going to school as well as changing physiological wants (read: significant other). It's quite difficult to lead a family and play starcraft at the highest level, that's why you see players taper off, not because of any mental or physical decline.
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
August 02 2012 19:26 GMT
#3233
ikontroll is awake today
ikh
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom251 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 19:27:51
August 02 2012 19:26 GMT
#3234
On August 03 2012 04:16 Incomplet wrote:
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On August 03 2012 04:13 Incomplet wrote:
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On August 03 2012 04:08 Incomplet wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:05 Bojas wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:03 Incomplet wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:00 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
On August 03 2012 03:56 Incomplet wrote:
On August 03 2012 03:53 nojok wrote:
Am I the only one who does not like seeing a caster with a team jersey? It's not that important but it just feels wrong to me.


Nope I agree, casters should be wearing shits and possibly even a tie. I understand that they have to please the sponsors, but if they are casting then they also should retain a certain standard of professionalism. I'm also not a fan of casters swearing, this is not good for trying to get the younger generations into E-sports, because many parents wont like their kids listening to such vulgarity.


Oh give me a break. They barely swear at all, and do you really think 10 year olds or something will be watching this? There isn't anything non-professional about team jersey's anyway.


Well there is a 16 year old participating in this tournament. So I wouldn't be surprised if there were a number of 10-15 year olds watching. Put yourself in the position of a parent, would you want your child sitting down watching people who swear? Don't me wrong, if its a laid back casual 1on1 interview, I dont care, but when something like this is on air and has 30k+ viewers, they need to cater to all ages.

It's a european tournament, I don't know about American teenagers but have you ever heard the average European teen talk? :D


Of course the average american and european teenager swear a lot nowadays, or any other country for that matter. But that is still not a reason to swear on air with so many viewers. With that mind-set why not news-reporters swear on air? No kids watch the news right? Thats because its unprofessional - period.

Wow what a sissy!


What an immature child who has no knowledge about professionalism or the real world.

Professionalism isn't necessarily always good, look at the archetypal American news presenter, so godamn insincere it's unbelievable. Give me a bit of swearing and lapses of that kind any day over those robots.


If its not important, then why do MLG and GOMTV casters wear shirts and not swear?

because MLG and GOMTV are US and korea, both cultures where swearing on TV is worse than killing a baby. unlike, say, most countries in europe. these people are not newscasters, they're nerds casting starcraft for a closed demographic of young gamers, it's NBD as long as the cussing isn't overdone (eg. constant). i guess you're not part of that, move on and realise you don't get to define the moral absolute or the definition of professionalism. that'd be fucking stupid, no?
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
August 02 2012 19:26 GMT
#3235
On August 03 2012 04:24 Incomplet wrote:
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On August 03 2012 04:22 Sneakyz wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:19 Incomplet wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:18 Shikyo wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:16 Incomplet wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:13 Incomplet wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:10 nojok wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:08 Incomplet wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:05 Bojas wrote:
[quote]
It's a european tournament, I don't know about American teenagers but have you ever heard the average European teen talk? :D


Of course the average american and european teenager swear a lot nowadays, or any other country for that matter. But that is still not a reason to swear on air with so many viewers. With that mind-set why not news-reporters swear on air? No kids watch the news right? Thats because its unprofessional - period.

Wow what a sissy!


What an immature child who has no knowledge about professionalism or the real world.

Professionalism isn't necessarily always good, look at the archetypal American news presenter, so godamn insincere it's unbelievable. Give me a bit of swearing and lapses of that kind any day over those robots.


If its not important, then why do MLG and GOMTV casters wear shirts and not swear?

Probably because someone told them to.

You could compare having a cast with them wearing suits vs them wearing t-shirts and comparing viewer numbers I guess.


Exactly, and why do you think "someone" told them not to ?

Because if the 1/10000 guy complains they can blame the caster since they've told them not to


Wrong, because its unprofessional. I'm sorry but swearing has and always will be unprofessional, that is just the way the world is. People just need to come to terms with that.


The whole world is not like that.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 02 2012 19:26 GMT
#3236
eh I want Ret to advance and Kas to win... Poor guy
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CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
August 02 2012 19:27 GMT
#3237
as funny as it might have seemed, even to Adebisi himsel, somewhere deep inside, he's hurting :d
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VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
August 02 2012 19:27 GMT
#3238
Ooh, BW music.
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
August 02 2012 19:27 GMT
#3239
On August 03 2012 04:24 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 04:22 Sneakyz wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:19 Incomplet wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:18 Shikyo wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:16 Incomplet wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:13 Incomplet wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:10 nojok wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:08 Incomplet wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:05 Bojas wrote:
[quote]
It's a european tournament, I don't know about American teenagers but have you ever heard the average European teen talk? :D


Of course the average american and european teenager swear a lot nowadays, or any other country for that matter. But that is still not a reason to swear on air with so many viewers. With that mind-set why not news-reporters swear on air? No kids watch the news right? Thats because its unprofessional - period.

Wow what a sissy!


What an immature child who has no knowledge about professionalism or the real world.

Professionalism isn't necessarily always good, look at the archetypal American news presenter, so godamn insincere it's unbelievable. Give me a bit of swearing and lapses of that kind any day over those robots.


If its not important, then why do MLG and GOMTV casters wear shirts and not swear?

Probably because someone told them to.

You could compare having a cast with them wearing suits vs them wearing t-shirts and comparing viewer numbers I guess.


Exactly, and why do you think "someone" told them not to ?

Because if the 1/10000 guy complains they can blame the caster since they've told them not to


Wrong, because its unprofessional. I'm sorry but swearing has and always will be unprofessional, that is just the way the world is. People just need to come to terms with that.


Why does that mean you have such a big problem with it? Just calm down and enjoy
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 19:28:30
August 02 2012 19:27 GMT
#3240
On August 03 2012 04:24 Incomplet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 04:22 Sneakyz wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:19 Incomplet wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:18 Shikyo wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:16 Incomplet wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:13 Incomplet wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:10 nojok wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:08 Incomplet wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:05 Bojas wrote:
[quote]
It's a european tournament, I don't know about American teenagers but have you ever heard the average European teen talk? :D


Of course the average american and european teenager swear a lot nowadays, or any other country for that matter. But that is still not a reason to swear on air with so many viewers. With that mind-set why not news-reporters swear on air? No kids watch the news right? Thats because its unprofessional - period.

Wow what a sissy!


What an immature child who has no knowledge about professionalism or the real world.

Professionalism isn't necessarily always good, look at the archetypal American news presenter, so godamn insincere it's unbelievable. Give me a bit of swearing and lapses of that kind any day over those robots.


If its not important, then why do MLG and GOMTV casters wear shirts and not swear?

Probably because someone told them to.

You could compare having a cast with them wearing suits vs them wearing t-shirts and comparing viewer numbers I guess.


Exactly, and why do you think "someone" told them not to ?

Because if the 1/10000 guy complains they can blame the caster since they've told them not to


Wrong, because its unprofessional. I'm sorry but swearing has and always will be unprofessional, that is just the way the world is. People just need to come to terms with that.

Here's a million dollar question:

Is talking about ripping someone's heart out, crushing a nerd's face, or hippos having sex or things like that professional? And a secondary question, even if those things aren't professional does anyone really give a shit?



Also can someone explain Satiini vs ForGG to me?
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