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Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
August 02 2012 19:32 GMT
#3261
On August 03 2012 04:29 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 04:28 KingofGods wrote:
Well, if I had a big lan to play in I would plan it so that I am at the location at least a few days before hand, if not a week to get accustomed to the surroundings, weather, etc. Just look at these Olympians for example, were any of them 1 flight delay away from almost missing the event? Of course not. If you can't dedicate yourself to the event, then you might as well not show up in my opinion.


lodging isn't cheap


well if you consider cost effectiveness, it may be cheaper to send a player 2 days earlier and increase his chance to win some prize money in a rested condition as opposed to send him on tournament day and get pwned in groups.
#1 Grubby Fan.
Math.random();
Profile Joined July 2011
433 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 19:33:13
August 02 2012 19:32 GMT
#3262
On August 03 2012 04:31 Jarree wrote:
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On August 03 2012 04:30 Derrida wrote:
terran 40 supply ahead @ 10 minute mark in a tvz? how the hell?

Kas' units come back to life after dying, like he has


Wasn't ret saving up for mutas at that time?

wow, Kas @85 scvs
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
August 02 2012 19:32 GMT
#3263
On August 03 2012 04:15 Wegandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 04:05 FatBat wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:02 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:40 Shikyo wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:38 Resilient wrote:
16 year old barely loses to ForGG in a 3-2 series and some people here flame him for being arrogant/being inexperienced enough to apply ladder results to tournaments

stay classy

Implying being 16 is a disadvantage? I'd say that's the best age for a player

seems likely as i cant think of a single player whos ever peaked at 16

I think in theory its best age because your brain is at his peak aswell as physically, BUT at 16 you have school and in generell not so much time to play( parents etc.)



Physical peak is late 20s, and mental peak generally is mid 20s, even though some other functions like spatial reasoning peaks in your late 50s. The reason you see teenagers doing so well is because they have less priorities and responsibilities. As much as we might like to say that gaming is mainstream, it really isn't, at least not yet. Many people lose their passion also the more they play the game. Just look at NaDa. His abilities didn't decline because of some physical or mental diminishing, but because his priorities shifted.

Let's also not forget the fact that Korean gamers are interrupted for years in the early 20s due to conscription. I think it's a bit silly to say that playing Starcraft is more physically or mentally demanding than say, Nolan Ryan pitching at age 43. If major league baseball players can still be on the top of the world in their late 30s in such a demanding sport, what makes you think that humans can't play starcraft in their early and mid twenties at the top of the game?


You have good insight. Playing video game is not nearly as demanding physically. I wouldn't be surprised 60 years old winning GSL if he/she has a chance and dedication to do so. Often times, people start to play games in teenage years. Therefore, it is only natural that some talents come up from those age bracket. When e-sports grow bigger and pro gamer career is taken more seriously by societies, then we might see more older age champions. For now, being younger is an advantage. Some say you have school, but if you start to work, school responsibility is such a joke compared to working responsibility. Maybe some youngsters don't understand that. I certainly didn't back then to be fair.
GregMandel
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
France822 Posts
August 02 2012 19:33 GMT
#3264
Foreigner muta control by Ret
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD8QLNiolfk - Racing with the sun
kiy0
Profile Joined August 2010
Portugal593 Posts
August 02 2012 19:33 GMT
#3265
Is the stream lagging a lot, or is it just me?
Wisemen speak when they have something to say. Others speak when they have to say something.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
August 02 2012 19:33 GMT
#3266
In this game it's hard to tell kas is the one who hasn't slept in 48 hours
CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
August 02 2012 19:33 GMT
#3267
lol kas reaction time & micro is bad right now lol, living off his production xD

but i guess thats kinda standard for him though ;-P
(>*-*)><( *-* )><(*-*<) DoDTimber on Bnet
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
August 02 2012 19:33 GMT
#3268
Is the sound going on and off for anyone else? Im watching stream 1
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
August 02 2012 19:33 GMT
#3269
lol these banelings
Terran & Potato Salad.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 02 2012 19:34 GMT
#3270
What is Ret doing? Howly fuck.
I had a good night of sleep.
ikh
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom251 Posts
August 02 2012 19:34 GMT
#3271
On August 03 2012 04:31 Incomplet wrote:
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On August 03 2012 04:26 ikh wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:16 Incomplet wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:13 Incomplet wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:10 nojok wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:08 Incomplet wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:05 Bojas wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:03 Incomplet wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:00 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
[quote]

Oh give me a break. They barely swear at all, and do you really think 10 year olds or something will be watching this? There isn't anything non-professional about team jersey's anyway.


Well there is a 16 year old participating in this tournament. So I wouldn't be surprised if there were a number of 10-15 year olds watching. Put yourself in the position of a parent, would you want your child sitting down watching people who swear? Don't me wrong, if its a laid back casual 1on1 interview, I dont care, but when something like this is on air and has 30k+ viewers, they need to cater to all ages.

It's a european tournament, I don't know about American teenagers but have you ever heard the average European teen talk? :D


Of course the average american and european teenager swear a lot nowadays, or any other country for that matter. But that is still not a reason to swear on air with so many viewers. With that mind-set why not news-reporters swear on air? No kids watch the news right? Thats because its unprofessional - period.

Wow what a sissy!


What an immature child who has no knowledge about professionalism or the real world.

Professionalism isn't necessarily always good, look at the archetypal American news presenter, so godamn insincere it's unbelievable. Give me a bit of swearing and lapses of that kind any day over those robots.


If its not important, then why do MLG and GOMTV casters wear shirts and not swear?

because MLG and GOMTV are US and korea, both cultures where swearing on TV is worse than killing a baby. unlike, say, most countries in europe. these people are not newscasters, they're nerds casting starcraft for a closed demographic of young gamers, it's NBD as long as the cussing isn't overdone (eg. constant). i guess you're not part of that.


Im 24, and last I checked, that was still considered young. And the fact that "these people" make a living off casting pretty much makes their profession - casters, not "nerds casting starcraft". Anyway I'm done arguing, I just wanna watch. Agree to disagree, whatever.

yeah, you're young, sure. you're just a cocky moralist/prude then, i'm afraid.
KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
August 02 2012 19:34 GMT
#3272
On August 03 2012 04:29 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 04:28 KingofGods wrote:
Well, if I had a big lan to play in I would plan it so that I am at the location at least a few days before hand, if not a week to get accustomed to the surroundings, weather, etc. Just look at these Olympians for example, were any of them 1 flight delay away from almost missing the event? Of course not. If you can't dedicate yourself to the event, then you might as well not show up in my opinion.


lodging isn't cheap


Of course not, but neither is being a pro-gamer. But hey, that's the choice he made. I sure hope he isn't going to complain about it.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 02 2012 19:34 GMT
#3273
Ret doesn't want to to win this game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
August 02 2012 19:35 GMT
#3274
On August 03 2012 04:34 KingofGods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 04:29 Waxangel wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:28 KingofGods wrote:
Well, if I had a big lan to play in I would plan it so that I am at the location at least a few days before hand, if not a week to get accustomed to the surroundings, weather, etc. Just look at these Olympians for example, were any of them 1 flight delay away from almost missing the event? Of course not. If you can't dedicate yourself to the event, then you might as well not show up in my opinion.


lodging isn't cheap


Of course not, but neither is being a pro-gamer. But hey, that's the choice he made. I sure hope he isn't going to complain about it.


Kas isn't exactly a whiner
Terran & Potato Salad.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
August 02 2012 19:35 GMT
#3275
GG Kas
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
GregMandel
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
France822 Posts
August 02 2012 19:35 GMT
#3276
Shit Kas, too good, and Ret full foreigner again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD8QLNiolfk - Racing with the sun
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 02 2012 19:35 GMT
#3277
Kas is such a machine
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
August 02 2012 19:35 GMT
#3278
Kas, the macro beast!
MrShankly
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United Kingdom371 Posts
August 02 2012 19:35 GMT
#3279
LOL he looks SO tired, and he still so strong, cant belive it. machine indeed
DONATE SC2 BETA KEY TO ME PLEASE
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25318 Posts
August 02 2012 19:35 GMT
#3280
On August 03 2012 04:32 Orek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 04:15 Wegandi wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:05 FatBat wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:02 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:40 Shikyo wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:38 Resilient wrote:
16 year old barely loses to ForGG in a 3-2 series and some people here flame him for being arrogant/being inexperienced enough to apply ladder results to tournaments

stay classy

Implying being 16 is a disadvantage? I'd say that's the best age for a player

seems likely as i cant think of a single player whos ever peaked at 16

I think in theory its best age because your brain is at his peak aswell as physically, BUT at 16 you have school and in generell not so much time to play( parents etc.)



Physical peak is late 20s, and mental peak generally is mid 20s, even though some other functions like spatial reasoning peaks in your late 50s. The reason you see teenagers doing so well is because they have less priorities and responsibilities. As much as we might like to say that gaming is mainstream, it really isn't, at least not yet. Many people lose their passion also the more they play the game. Just look at NaDa. His abilities didn't decline because of some physical or mental diminishing, but because his priorities shifted.

Let's also not forget the fact that Korean gamers are interrupted for years in the early 20s due to conscription. I think it's a bit silly to say that playing Starcraft is more physically or mentally demanding than say, Nolan Ryan pitching at age 43. If major league baseball players can still be on the top of the world in their late 30s in such a demanding sport, what makes you think that humans can't play starcraft in their early and mid twenties at the top of the game?


You have good insight. Playing video game is not nearly as demanding physically. I wouldn't be surprised 60 years old winning GSL if he/she has a chance and dedication to do so. Often times, people start to play games in teenage years. Therefore, it is only natural that some talents come up from those age bracket. When e-sports grow bigger and pro gamer career is taken more seriously by societies, then we might see more older age champions. For now, being younger is an advantage. Some say you have school, but if you start to work, school responsibility is such a joke compared to working responsibility. Maybe some youngsters don't understand that. I certainly didn't back then to be fair.

Videogames really rely on your cognitive abilities, your reaction times and whatnot that decline relatively quickly. Plus only the young tend to have sufficient time to dedicate to playing full time which is probably part of it.
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