Well, if I had a big lan to play in I would plan it so that I am at the location at least a few days before hand, if not a week to get accustomed to the surroundings, weather, etc. Just look at these Olympians for example, were any of them 1 flight delay away from almost missing the event? Of course not. If you can't dedicate yourself to the event, then you might as well not show up in my opinion.
On August 03 2012 04:05 Bojas wrote: [quote] It's a european tournament, I don't know about American teenagers but have you ever heard the average European teen talk? :D
Of course the average american and european teenager swear a lot nowadays, or any other country for that matter. But that is still not a reason to swear on air with so many viewers. With that mind-set why not news-reporters swear on air? No kids watch the news right? Thats because its unprofessional - period.
Wow what a sissy!
What an immature child who has no knowledge about professionalism or the real world.
Professionalism isn't necessarily always good, look at the archetypal American news presenter, so godamn insincere it's unbelievable. Give me a bit of swearing and lapses of that kind any day over those robots.
If its not important, then why do MLG and GOMTV casters wear shirts and not swear?
Probably because someone told them to.
You could compare having a cast with them wearing suits vs them wearing t-shirts and comparing viewer numbers I guess.
Exactly, and why do you think "someone" told them not to ?
Because if the 1/10000 guy complains they can blame the caster since they've told them not to
Wrong, because its unprofessional. I'm sorry but swearing has and always will be unprofessional, that is just the way the world is. People just need to come to terms with that.
My boss cusses all the time. I don't see a problem with it. My little brother, an upcoming high school freshman, knows more derogatory language than both my parents combined. Welcome to the real world, where people swear. Also, Tastosis have cussed/talked about ripping out hearts/boners/having sex/getting drunk. I don't see people complaining.
On August 03 2012 04:05 Bojas wrote: [quote] It's a european tournament, I don't know about American teenagers but have you ever heard the average European teen talk? :D
Of course the average american and european teenager swear a lot nowadays, or any other country for that matter. But that is still not a reason to swear on air with so many viewers. With that mind-set why not news-reporters swear on air? No kids watch the news right? Thats because its unprofessional - period.
Wow what a sissy!
What an immature child who has no knowledge about professionalism or the real world.
Professionalism isn't necessarily always good, look at the archetypal American news presenter, so godamn insincere it's unbelievable. Give me a bit of swearing and lapses of that kind any day over those robots.
If its not important, then why do MLG and GOMTV casters wear shirts and not swear?
Probably because someone told them to.
You could compare having a cast with them wearing suits vs them wearing t-shirts and comparing viewer numbers I guess.
Exactly, and why do you think "someone" told them not to ?
Because if the 1/10000 guy complains they can blame the caster since they've told them not to
Wrong, because its unprofessional. I'm sorry but swearing has and always will be unprofessional, that is just the way the world is. People just need to come to terms with that.
The world is not like that, where do you get that from, stop being so self-centered.
On August 03 2012 04:28 KingofGods wrote: Well, if I had a big lan to play in I would plan it so that I am at the location at least a few days before hand, if not a week to get accustomed to the surroundings, weather, etc. Just look at these Olympians for example, were any of them 1 flight delay away from almost missing the event? Of course not. If you can't dedicate yourself to the event, then you might as well not show up in my opinion.
On August 03 2012 02:38 Resilient wrote: 16 year old barely loses to ForGG in a 3-2 series and some people here flame him for being arrogant/being inexperienced enough to apply ladder results to tournaments
stay classy
Implying being 16 is a disadvantage? I'd say that's the best age for a player
seems likely as i cant think of a single player whos ever peaked at 16
I think in theory its best age because your brain is at his peak aswell as physically, BUT at 16 you have school and in generell not so much time to play( parents etc.)
Physical peak is late 20s, and mental peak generally is mid 20s, even though some other functions like spatial reasoning peaks in your late 50s. The reason you see teenagers doing so well is because they have less priorities and responsibilities. As much as we might like to say that gaming is mainstream, it really isn't, at least not yet. Many people lose their passion also the more they play the game. Just look at NaDa. His abilities didn't decline because of some physical or mental diminishing, but because his priorities shifted.
Let's also not forget the fact that Korean gamers are interrupted for years in the early 20s due to conscription. I think it's a bit silly to say that playing Starcraft is more physically or mentally demanding than say, Nolan Ryan pitching at age 43. If major league baseball players can still be on the top of the world in their late 30s in such a demanding sport, what makes you think that humans can't play starcraft in their early and mid twenties at the top of the game?
I mean just because you say things confidently does not make them correct.
p.s. SaSe has this base race in the bag
What does "mental peak" even mean?
Mental peak is just another way of saying the height of our cognitive functioning.
On August 03 2012 04:28 KingofGods wrote: Well, if I had a big lan to play in I would plan it so that I am at the location at least a few days before hand, if not a week to get accustomed to the surroundings, weather, etc. Just look at these Olympians for example, were any of them 1 flight delay away from almost missing the event? Of course not. If you can't dedicate yourself to the event, then you might as well not show up in my opinion.
On August 03 2012 04:05 Bojas wrote: [quote] It's a european tournament, I don't know about American teenagers but have you ever heard the average European teen talk? :D
Of course the average american and european teenager swear a lot nowadays, or any other country for that matter. But that is still not a reason to swear on air with so many viewers. With that mind-set why not news-reporters swear on air? No kids watch the news right? Thats because its unprofessional - period.
Wow what a sissy!
What an immature child who has no knowledge about professionalism or the real world.
Professionalism isn't necessarily always good, look at the archetypal American news presenter, so godamn insincere it's unbelievable. Give me a bit of swearing and lapses of that kind any day over those robots.
If its not important, then why do MLG and GOMTV casters wear shirts and not swear?
Probably because someone told them to.
You could compare having a cast with them wearing suits vs them wearing t-shirts and comparing viewer numbers I guess.
Exactly, and why do you think "someone" told them not to ?
Because if the 1/10000 guy complains they can blame the caster since they've told them not to
Wrong, because its unprofessional. I'm sorry but swearing has and always will be unprofessional, that is just the way the world is. People just need to come to terms with that.
just gotta ask this, im sorry, but are you american? i ask this, because you've obviously not experienced anything close to the culture in scandinavia, or most of europe, cus if you had you'd know that very few people here actually cares... which is the way it should be in my opinion. unless some one is directly insulting, or is constantly saying "fuck" in every sentence (cus that stuff i agree, dosn't sound very nice) i dont think there should be any issue.
On August 03 2012 04:28 KingofGods wrote: Well, if I had a big lan to play in I would plan it so that I am at the location at least a few days before hand, if not a week to get accustomed to the surroundings, weather, etc. Just look at these Olympians for example, were any of them 1 flight delay away from almost missing the event? Of course not. If you can't dedicate yourself to the event, then you might as well not show up in my opinion.
Well problem is with serveral flights getting cancelled or else he would been there late wednesday, now hes been awake for over 48h.
On August 03 2012 02:38 Resilient wrote: 16 year old barely loses to ForGG in a 3-2 series and some people here flame him for being arrogant/being inexperienced enough to apply ladder results to tournaments
stay classy
Implying being 16 is a disadvantage? I'd say that's the best age for a player
seems likely as i cant think of a single player whos ever peaked at 16
I think in theory its best age because your brain is at his peak aswell as physically, BUT at 16 you have school and in generell not so much time to play( parents etc.)
Physical peak is late 20s, and mental peak generally is mid 20s, even though some other functions like spatial reasoning peaks in your late 50s. The reason you see teenagers doing so well is because they have less priorities and responsibilities. As much as we might like to say that gaming is mainstream, it really isn't, at least not yet. Many people lose their passion also the more they play the game. Just look at NaDa. His abilities didn't decline because of some physical or mental diminishing, but because his priorities shifted.
Let's also not forget the fact that Korean gamers are interrupted for years in the early 20s due to conscription. I think it's a bit silly to say that playing Starcraft is more physically or mentally demanding than say, Nolan Ryan pitching at age 43. If major league baseball players can still be on the top of the world in their late 30s in such a demanding sport, what makes you think that humans can't play starcraft in their early and mid twenties at the top of the game?
I mean just because you say things confidently does not make them correct.
NaDa's declining results correlate directly with going to school as well as changing physiological wants (read: significant other). It's quite difficult to lead a family and play starcraft at the highest level, that's why you see players taper off, not because of any mental or physical decline.
As an american I can finally understand why the world sees us as douchebags. You sir, soil our country's name.
You link to a site 'brainhealthhacks' which has next to zero credibility, as well as a pubmed article by a series of individuals two of which who have been investigated for research misconduct and even despite that they acknowledge the uncertainty of their findings within their own paper! The variability that they acknowledge is massive.
On August 03 2012 04:05 Bojas wrote: [quote] It's a european tournament, I don't know about American teenagers but have you ever heard the average European teen talk? :D
Of course the average american and european teenager swear a lot nowadays, or any other country for that matter. But that is still not a reason to swear on air with so many viewers. With that mind-set why not news-reporters swear on air? No kids watch the news right? Thats because its unprofessional - period.
Wow what a sissy!
What an immature child who has no knowledge about professionalism or the real world.
Professionalism isn't necessarily always good, look at the archetypal American news presenter, so godamn insincere it's unbelievable. Give me a bit of swearing and lapses of that kind any day over those robots.
If its not important, then why do MLG and GOMTV casters wear shirts and not swear?
Probably because someone told them to.
You could compare having a cast with them wearing suits vs them wearing t-shirts and comparing viewer numbers I guess.
Exactly, and why do you think "someone" told them not to ?
Because if the 1/10000 guy complains they can blame the caster since they've told them not to
Wrong, because its unprofessional. I'm sorry but swearing has and always will be unprofessional, that is just the way the world is. People just need to come to terms with that.
Professionalism is an artificial construct made to specifically create a self-made image of the subject and to avoid offending the public. It is only as important as the value you place in the idea. People just need to come to terms with that.
Nope I agree, casters should be wearing shits and possibly even a tie. I understand that they have to please the sponsors, but if they are casting then they also should retain a certain standard of professionalism. I'm also not a fan of casters swearing, this is not good for trying to get the younger generations into E-sports, because many parents wont like their kids listening to such vulgarity.
Oh give me a break. They barely swear at all, and do you really think 10 year olds or something will be watching this? There isn't anything non-professional about team jersey's anyway.
Well there is a 16 year old participating in this tournament. So I wouldn't be surprised if there were a number of 10-15 year olds watching. Put yourself in the position of a parent, would you want your child sitting down watching people who swear? Don't me wrong, if its a laid back casual 1on1 interview, I dont care, but when something like this is on air and has 30k+ viewers, they need to cater to all ages.
It's a european tournament, I don't know about American teenagers but have you ever heard the average European teen talk? :D
Of course the average american and european teenager swear a lot nowadays, or any other country for that matter. But that is still not a reason to swear on air with so many viewers. With that mind-set why not news-reporters swear on air? No kids watch the news right? Thats because its unprofessional - period.
Wow what a sissy!
What an immature child who has no knowledge about professionalism or the real world.
Professionalism isn't necessarily always good, look at the archetypal American news presenter, so godamn insincere it's unbelievable. Give me a bit of swearing and lapses of that kind any day over those robots.
If its not important, then why do MLG and GOMTV casters wear shirts and not swear?
because MLG and GOMTV are US and korea, both cultures where swearing on TV is worse than killing a baby. unlike, say, most countries in europe. these people are not newscasters, they're nerds casting starcraft for a closed demographic of young gamers, it's NBD as long as the cussing isn't overdone (eg. constant). i guess you're not part of that.
Im 24, and last I checked, that was still considered young. And the fact that "these people" make a living off casting pretty much makes their profession - casters, not "nerds casting starcraft". Anyway I'm done arguing, I just wanna watch. Agree to disagree, whatever.
On August 03 2012 04:28 KingofGods wrote: Well, if I had a big lan to play in I would plan it so that I am at the location at least a few days before hand, if not a week to get accustomed to the surroundings, weather, etc. Just look at these Olympians for example, were any of them 1 flight delay away from almost missing the event? Of course not. If you can't dedicate yourself to the event, then you might as well not show up in my opinion.
lodging isn't cheap
Hm in the SSBM community there always was a possibility to stay at someone's house, I don't know why it'd be such a big problem especially with such a high profile SC2 player. You could imagine you could get a place to stay in exchange for a few lessons maybe.
Of course the average american and european teenager swear a lot nowadays, or any other country for that matter. But that is still not a reason to swear on air with so many viewers. With that mind-set why not news-reporters swear on air? No kids watch the news right? Thats because its unprofessional - period.
Wow what a sissy!
What an immature child who has no knowledge about professionalism or the real world.
Professionalism isn't necessarily always good, look at the archetypal American news presenter, so godamn insincere it's unbelievable. Give me a bit of swearing and lapses of that kind any day over those robots.
If its not important, then why do MLG and GOMTV casters wear shirts and not swear?
Probably because someone told them to.
You could compare having a cast with them wearing suits vs them wearing t-shirts and comparing viewer numbers I guess.
Exactly, and why do you think "someone" told them not to ?
Because if the 1/10000 guy complains they can blame the caster since they've told them not to
Wrong, because its unprofessional. I'm sorry but swearing has and always will be unprofessional, that is just the way the world is. People just need to come to terms with that.
just gotta ask this, im sorry, but are you american? i ask this, because you've obviously not experienced anything close to the culture in scandinavia, or most of europe, cus if you had you'd know that very few people here actually cares... which is the way it should be in my opinion. unless some one is directly insulting, or is constantly saying "fuck" in every sentence (cus that stuff i agree, dosn't sound very nice) i dont think there should be any issue.
If he is American, then i'd say he's either really young or really old. Cuz most people in America just don't give a fuck anymore lol. I heard worse when I was visiting my brother's high school.
Kas got rid of the hellions which are pretty much dead supply later in the game and traded very well. He was doing the right thing even against a 3 base Zerg.
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