• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 03:54
CET 09:54
KST 17:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets0$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)12Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list? Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns Spontaneous hotkey change zerg Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou
Tourneys
$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) WardiTV Winter Cup WardiTV Mondays SC2 AI Tournament 2026
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest Data analysis on 70 million replays
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1354 users

[GSL] Code S Finals - Page 229

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 227 228 229 230 231 235 Next
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
July 27 2012 13:16 GMT
#4561
we're halfway there opterown!
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
July 27 2012 13:17 GMT
#4562
i hate pvp so i didnt watch the finals but i am glad we have a different protoss champion.
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
July 27 2012 13:20 GMT
#4563
Come to think of it, any other sports in the world is basically mirror match-up only.
Soccer, baseball, tennis, you name it.
We might be too spoiled to complain about mirror. Just another perpective I wanted to throw in there.
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
July 27 2012 13:25 GMT
#4564
lol, knew it, PvP just sucks for a final. And people were still confident it would be epic. If its just a Bo3 it might still be exciting. This is why I say protoss needs a huge overhaul. Warp in makes boring games. Buff gateway units, remove warp gate mechanic and instantly everything becomes nice to watch but nooooo.. blizzard wants their warpgate. sigh...
Kotschmonaut
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany117 Posts
July 27 2012 13:25 GMT
#4565
Live Result Link for Match 5 is broken, shows the summary of Match 4.
Fix plz
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
July 27 2012 13:25 GMT
#4566
On July 27 2012 22:20 Orek wrote:
Come to think of it, any other sports in the world is basically mirror match-up only.
Soccer, baseball, tennis, you name it.
We might be too spoiled to complain about mirror. Just another perpective I wanted to throw in there.


I don't think people are complaining about the fact that mirrors exist, but rather that they are bad in sc2. Well, ZvZ and PvP that is.

Also your analogy makes no sense.
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
July 27 2012 13:27 GMT
#4567
On July 27 2012 22:25 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 22:20 Orek wrote:
Come to think of it, any other sports in the world is basically mirror match-up only.
Soccer, baseball, tennis, you name it.
We might be too spoiled to complain about mirror. Just another perpective I wanted to throw in there.


I don't think people are complaining about the fact that mirrors exist, but rather that they are bad in sc2. Well, ZvZ and PvP that is.

Also your analogy makes no sense.

My z v z games are getting fun actually. So many new builds that I can do and it works if used correctly. Infestors/ling. drops. Queen/roach. And general consensus has been leaning towards z v z being nice to watch especially freaky's games.
GeorgeH
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom190 Posts
July 27 2012 13:28 GMT
#4568
On July 27 2012 22:20 Orek wrote:
Come to think of it, any other sports in the world is basically mirror match-up only.
Soccer, baseball, tennis, you name it.
We might be too spoiled to complain about mirror. Just another perpective I wanted to throw in there.


Couldn't make up a worse analogy even if I tried.
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
July 27 2012 13:28 GMT
#4569
On July 27 2012 22:20 Orek wrote:
Come to think of it, any other sports in the world is basically mirror match-up only.
Soccer, baseball, tennis, you name it.
We might be too spoiled to complain about mirror. Just another perpective I wanted to throw in there.

I wouldn't say so at all. Every team in those sports have their own advantages, not only through play style, but through each players own capabilities and talents.
Some teams might be fast, some with excellent shooters, some with awesome defense etc. though every team strives to be good at everything, balance is only made at the end of a season (the drafts).
You try and say that the Spurs vs a team like the Heat is a mirror match and you've got yourself an incorrect statement sir.
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
July 27 2012 13:28 GMT
#4570
On July 27 2012 22:28 GeorgeH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 22:20 Orek wrote:
Come to think of it, any other sports in the world is basically mirror match-up only.
Soccer, baseball, tennis, you name it.
We might be too spoiled to complain about mirror. Just another perpective I wanted to throw in there.


Couldn't make up a worse analogy even if I tried.

hahaha, I am still trying to comprehend wtf is he trying to say.
neckgripper
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada100 Posts
July 27 2012 13:30 GMT
#4571
gratz seed, taking over role as boss toss, mc is now miniboss toss.
MBV
Profile Joined June 2011
United States83 Posts
July 27 2012 13:36 GMT
#4572
On July 27 2012 22:25 ImNightmare wrote:
lol, knew it, PvP just sucks for a final. And people were still confident it would be epic. If its just a Bo3 it might still be exciting. This is why I say protoss needs a huge overhaul. Warp in makes boring games. Buff gateway units, remove warp gate mechanic and instantly everything becomes nice to watch but nooooo.. blizzard wants their warpgate. sigh...


I think warp gate should come some time after templar archive tech maybe. Then gateway units could get buffed because they won't be able to warp in next to your base within 7 minutes. Warpgate tech seems silly at cybernetics core. Seems similar as if zerg could build a nydus canal after spawning pool.

This is all just in my lowly humble opinion!
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
July 27 2012 13:37 GMT
#4573
Thank you guys for pointing out how fucked up my analogy was ^^.
I know.

I was wondering why Starcraft mirror is so bad compared to other "mirror" match-ups in the world.
You know, soccer plays 11 vs 11, never 4 lings vs 1 zealot. I know it is not that simple, but having non-mirror as a sport (e-sport) is something special.
Any constructive argument?
31415926535
Profile Joined May 2012
Switzerland276 Posts
July 27 2012 13:38 GMT
#4574
On July 27 2012 22:27 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 22:25 nkr wrote:
On July 27 2012 22:20 Orek wrote:
Come to think of it, any other sports in the world is basically mirror match-up only.
Soccer, baseball, tennis, you name it.
We might be too spoiled to complain about mirror. Just another perpective I wanted to throw in there.


I don't think people are complaining about the fact that mirrors exist, but rather that they are bad in sc2. Well, ZvZ and PvP that is.

Also your analogy makes no sense.

My z v z games are getting fun actually. So many new builds that I can do and it works if used correctly. Infestors/ling. drops. Queen/roach. And general consensus has been leaning towards z v z being nice to watch especially freaky's games.

Yeah, it has improved quite a lot since the early days where it was basically only about speedlings chasing each other for 10 minutes.
I actually think PvP is kind of fun to watch, especially the early-mid games (where there are a lot of different builds). The fucked up part with PvP is the endgame, where there is only one start : have more colossi than the opponent.
david0925
Profile Joined September 2010
212 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 13:44:40
July 27 2012 13:42 GMT
#4575
dont worry guys mothership core will save the day!
or so Blizzard thinks

the issue with PvP is pretty obvious, but I think Seed vastly outplayed MC in the 4 games that he played. MC himself is known for proxying things (extremely evident in game 4 with the hidden main Pylon), yet he didn't even scout his own natural in game 2, if he forced a cancel on that Robotics he would have been way ahead, especially with DTs coming out.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 27 2012 13:43 GMT
#4576
On July 27 2012 22:30 neckgripper wrote:
gratz seed, taking over role as boss toss, mc is now miniboss toss.


Heh, not so fast. Even Seed himself said MC is still boss toss. But Seed did what a lot of other challengers couldn't do. Win a big tournament. Now he just needs to play consistent and prove himself.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
July 27 2012 13:43 GMT
#4577
Its just a shame they hype up the finals so much and get the beach in Busan and everything, only to have half the seats be empty and have it be the worst finals in a year.. That's the only unfortunate part. Hopefully GSTL will be better.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
July 27 2012 13:43 GMT
#4578
ZvZ has actually improved a lot. Aside from the 10 pool vs 15 hatch shenanigans, it's become quite a stable and exciting match up. We see a lot of variety in the late game these days with BLs/Ultras, Nydus networks, and drop play.

TvT has always been exciting.

PvP is just... ugh.
I love crazymoving
unteqair
Profile Joined November 2011
United States308 Posts
July 27 2012 13:45 GMT
#4579
Blizzard needs to take a risk and completely rework protoss as a race. Every matchup with it is not spectator friendly, which just so happens to be half of the matchups.
Berceno
Profile Joined May 2012
Spain401 Posts
July 27 2012 13:46 GMT
#4580
On July 27 2012 22:43 Flonomenalz wrote:
ZvZ has actually improved a lot. Aside from the 10 pool vs 15 hatch shenanigans, it's become quite a stable and exciting match up. We see a lot of variety in the late game these days with BLs/Ultras, Nydus networks, and drop play.

TvT has always been exciting.

PvP is just... ugh.



zvz is even worse man
protoss living in da ghetto
Prev 1 227 228 229 230 231 235 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 7m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 2154
Larva 336
actioN 236
Mong 210
Stork 193
Leta 126
Nal_rA 96
Soma 84
Shuttle 74
EffOrt 62
[ Show more ]
Hyun 51
Killer 48
ZergMaN 40
zelot 34
Rush 16
Bale 13
soO 11
Sacsri 5
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm100
ODPixel38
League of Legends
JimRising 607
C9.Mang0456
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss753
allub224
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King145
Other Games
summit1g9434
ceh9460
Happy265
Sick180
RuFF_SC228
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick3536
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 87
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 50
• LUISG 15
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 42
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1544
• Stunt595
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
3h 7m
PiGosaur Cup
16h 7m
WardiTV Invitational
1d 3h
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
2 days
OSC
3 days
All Star Teams
3 days
INnoVation vs soO
sOs vs Scarlett
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
All Star Teams
4 days
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-12
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.