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Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
July 27 2012 13:16 GMT
#4561
we're halfway there opterown!
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
July 27 2012 13:17 GMT
#4562
i hate pvp so i didnt watch the finals but i am glad we have a different protoss champion.
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
July 27 2012 13:20 GMT
#4563
Come to think of it, any other sports in the world is basically mirror match-up only.
Soccer, baseball, tennis, you name it.
We might be too spoiled to complain about mirror. Just another perpective I wanted to throw in there.
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
July 27 2012 13:25 GMT
#4564
lol, knew it, PvP just sucks for a final. And people were still confident it would be epic. If its just a Bo3 it might still be exciting. This is why I say protoss needs a huge overhaul. Warp in makes boring games. Buff gateway units, remove warp gate mechanic and instantly everything becomes nice to watch but nooooo.. blizzard wants their warpgate. sigh...
Kotschmonaut
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany117 Posts
July 27 2012 13:25 GMT
#4565
Live Result Link for Match 5 is broken, shows the summary of Match 4.
Fix plz
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
July 27 2012 13:25 GMT
#4566
On July 27 2012 22:20 Orek wrote:
Come to think of it, any other sports in the world is basically mirror match-up only.
Soccer, baseball, tennis, you name it.
We might be too spoiled to complain about mirror. Just another perpective I wanted to throw in there.


I don't think people are complaining about the fact that mirrors exist, but rather that they are bad in sc2. Well, ZvZ and PvP that is.

Also your analogy makes no sense.
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
July 27 2012 13:27 GMT
#4567
On July 27 2012 22:25 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 22:20 Orek wrote:
Come to think of it, any other sports in the world is basically mirror match-up only.
Soccer, baseball, tennis, you name it.
We might be too spoiled to complain about mirror. Just another perpective I wanted to throw in there.


I don't think people are complaining about the fact that mirrors exist, but rather that they are bad in sc2. Well, ZvZ and PvP that is.

Also your analogy makes no sense.

My z v z games are getting fun actually. So many new builds that I can do and it works if used correctly. Infestors/ling. drops. Queen/roach. And general consensus has been leaning towards z v z being nice to watch especially freaky's games.
GeorgeH
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom190 Posts
July 27 2012 13:28 GMT
#4568
On July 27 2012 22:20 Orek wrote:
Come to think of it, any other sports in the world is basically mirror match-up only.
Soccer, baseball, tennis, you name it.
We might be too spoiled to complain about mirror. Just another perpective I wanted to throw in there.


Couldn't make up a worse analogy even if I tried.
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
July 27 2012 13:28 GMT
#4569
On July 27 2012 22:20 Orek wrote:
Come to think of it, any other sports in the world is basically mirror match-up only.
Soccer, baseball, tennis, you name it.
We might be too spoiled to complain about mirror. Just another perpective I wanted to throw in there.

I wouldn't say so at all. Every team in those sports have their own advantages, not only through play style, but through each players own capabilities and talents.
Some teams might be fast, some with excellent shooters, some with awesome defense etc. though every team strives to be good at everything, balance is only made at the end of a season (the drafts).
You try and say that the Spurs vs a team like the Heat is a mirror match and you've got yourself an incorrect statement sir.
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
July 27 2012 13:28 GMT
#4570
On July 27 2012 22:28 GeorgeH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 22:20 Orek wrote:
Come to think of it, any other sports in the world is basically mirror match-up only.
Soccer, baseball, tennis, you name it.
We might be too spoiled to complain about mirror. Just another perpective I wanted to throw in there.


Couldn't make up a worse analogy even if I tried.

hahaha, I am still trying to comprehend wtf is he trying to say.
neckgripper
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada100 Posts
July 27 2012 13:30 GMT
#4571
gratz seed, taking over role as boss toss, mc is now miniboss toss.
MBV
Profile Joined June 2011
United States83 Posts
July 27 2012 13:36 GMT
#4572
On July 27 2012 22:25 ImNightmare wrote:
lol, knew it, PvP just sucks for a final. And people were still confident it would be epic. If its just a Bo3 it might still be exciting. This is why I say protoss needs a huge overhaul. Warp in makes boring games. Buff gateway units, remove warp gate mechanic and instantly everything becomes nice to watch but nooooo.. blizzard wants their warpgate. sigh...


I think warp gate should come some time after templar archive tech maybe. Then gateway units could get buffed because they won't be able to warp in next to your base within 7 minutes. Warpgate tech seems silly at cybernetics core. Seems similar as if zerg could build a nydus canal after spawning pool.

This is all just in my lowly humble opinion!
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
July 27 2012 13:37 GMT
#4573
Thank you guys for pointing out how fucked up my analogy was ^^.
I know.

I was wondering why Starcraft mirror is so bad compared to other "mirror" match-ups in the world.
You know, soccer plays 11 vs 11, never 4 lings vs 1 zealot. I know it is not that simple, but having non-mirror as a sport (e-sport) is something special.
Any constructive argument?
31415926535
Profile Joined May 2012
Switzerland276 Posts
July 27 2012 13:38 GMT
#4574
On July 27 2012 22:27 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 22:25 nkr wrote:
On July 27 2012 22:20 Orek wrote:
Come to think of it, any other sports in the world is basically mirror match-up only.
Soccer, baseball, tennis, you name it.
We might be too spoiled to complain about mirror. Just another perpective I wanted to throw in there.


I don't think people are complaining about the fact that mirrors exist, but rather that they are bad in sc2. Well, ZvZ and PvP that is.

Also your analogy makes no sense.

My z v z games are getting fun actually. So many new builds that I can do and it works if used correctly. Infestors/ling. drops. Queen/roach. And general consensus has been leaning towards z v z being nice to watch especially freaky's games.

Yeah, it has improved quite a lot since the early days where it was basically only about speedlings chasing each other for 10 minutes.
I actually think PvP is kind of fun to watch, especially the early-mid games (where there are a lot of different builds). The fucked up part with PvP is the endgame, where there is only one start : have more colossi than the opponent.
david0925
Profile Joined September 2010
212 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 13:44:40
July 27 2012 13:42 GMT
#4575
dont worry guys mothership core will save the day!
or so Blizzard thinks

the issue with PvP is pretty obvious, but I think Seed vastly outplayed MC in the 4 games that he played. MC himself is known for proxying things (extremely evident in game 4 with the hidden main Pylon), yet he didn't even scout his own natural in game 2, if he forced a cancel on that Robotics he would have been way ahead, especially with DTs coming out.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 27 2012 13:43 GMT
#4576
On July 27 2012 22:30 neckgripper wrote:
gratz seed, taking over role as boss toss, mc is now miniboss toss.


Heh, not so fast. Even Seed himself said MC is still boss toss. But Seed did what a lot of other challengers couldn't do. Win a big tournament. Now he just needs to play consistent and prove himself.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
July 27 2012 13:43 GMT
#4577
Its just a shame they hype up the finals so much and get the beach in Busan and everything, only to have half the seats be empty and have it be the worst finals in a year.. That's the only unfortunate part. Hopefully GSTL will be better.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
July 27 2012 13:43 GMT
#4578
ZvZ has actually improved a lot. Aside from the 10 pool vs 15 hatch shenanigans, it's become quite a stable and exciting match up. We see a lot of variety in the late game these days with BLs/Ultras, Nydus networks, and drop play.

TvT has always been exciting.

PvP is just... ugh.
I love crazymoving
unteqair
Profile Joined November 2011
United States308 Posts
July 27 2012 13:45 GMT
#4579
Blizzard needs to take a risk and completely rework protoss as a race. Every matchup with it is not spectator friendly, which just so happens to be half of the matchups.
Berceno
Profile Joined May 2012
Spain401 Posts
July 27 2012 13:46 GMT
#4580
On July 27 2012 22:43 Flonomenalz wrote:
ZvZ has actually improved a lot. Aside from the 10 pool vs 15 hatch shenanigans, it's become quite a stable and exciting match up. We see a lot of variety in the late game these days with BLs/Ultras, Nydus networks, and drop play.

TvT has always been exciting.

PvP is just... ugh.



zvz is even worse man
protoss living in da ghetto
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