While the games were lackluster in terms of excitement, at least we got a new player on the scene who can hopefully challenge for "best Toss in the world" title if he continues to build on his momentum.

I feel like Zerg and Terran have many big names who are consistent, whereas Protoss has only really had MC and maybe Genius, everyone else has a hot period and vanishes away.

Hoping Seed can improve and become a big name, he is in the same team with Nestea and MVP, so he couldnt possibly wish for better practice partners, either that or we have to hope that some of the Kespa Protossessesses can become major players.

ElephantBaby

United States1365 Posts

July 27 2012 13:03 GMT

#4542

On July 27 2012 21:53 zedrOne wrote:
Just more than ever convinced that GSL is a joke.
It's more a tv show than a tournament.

Seed will join jjakjji in the one time champion then loose team.

yeah ! gsl code S best player in the world.

lol.

Adelscott PvP is more entertaining to watch, and he know only one build !

If MC wins, will still say this?

Tachion

Canada8573 Posts

July 27 2012 13:03 GMT

#4543

It's a little surprising to see so many people get up in arms over the quality of games. It was a PvP, honestly how often are those the most entertaining series? If it had been a bunch of macro colossus battle like game 5 would it have been any better? I really doubt it.

How many other people like myself stayed up late to watch a PvP finals even though they don't like PvP? It wasn't the games I stayed up for, it was the story. In the biggest and hardest SC2 tourny in the world that is dominated by so many of the same players over and over again, we finally have a new champion. A relatively inexperienced individual player at that. Not only did we see a new face become champion which is rare in itself, but he's the only other Protoss player to ever win, making it even more rare. Do you think so many people showed up to ZvZ finals in BW to see diverse and interesting games? No, they were there to see the story unfold.

Please look beyond the games and see that something much more important happened today than just a PvP series.

WhX

Germany778 Posts

July 27 2012 13:05 GMT

#4544

On July 27 2012 21:55 opterown wrote:

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psch, the reason you hid the fxo-slayers bet is because you know you made the biggest mistake of your life there
FXO SMACKDOWN!

Haha :D I was struggling a lot who to pick. In the end I had to stick to Slayers. What about a compromise: Slayers's going to win, but it'll be close, like 5:3 or even 5:4?

teer

United States189 Posts

July 27 2012 13:05 GMT

#4545

i stayed up to watch mc do to seed what seed actually did to MC.. so this finals cuts deep..

vthree

Hong Kong8039 Posts

July 27 2012 13:06 GMT

#4546

On July 27 2012 21:52 mrRoflpwn wrote:
It alright guys~ MC is going to finland like tomorrow for the ASUS Rog tourney- He'll win that easy!

ROG starts on the 2nd. MC is playing in the WCG qualifiers tomorrow.

opterown

Australia54784 Posts

July 27 2012 13:07 GMT

#4547

On July 27 2012 22:06 vthree wrote:

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ROG starts on the 2nd. MC is playing in the WCG qualifiers tomorrow.

he said he's giving up his spot though

Asha

United Kingdom38149 Posts

July 27 2012 13:08 GMT

#4548

On July 27 2012 22:07 opterown wrote:

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he said he's giving up his spot though

Was he giving up a WCG spot or a WCS spot?

opterown

Australia54784 Posts

July 27 2012 13:09 GMT

#4549

On July 27 2012 22:08 Asha` wrote:

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Was he giving up a WCG spot or a WCS spot?

WCG i think
seeker mistranslated a few things, i'm pretty sure he's giving up his WCG and not WCS spot

WigglingSquid

5194 Posts

July 27 2012 13:10 GMT

#4550

On July 27 2012 22:02 Tyree wrote:
While the games were lackluster in terms of excitement, at least we got a new player on the scene who can hopefully challenge for "best Toss in the world" title if he continues to build on his momentum.

I feel like Zerg and Terran have many big names who are consistent, whereas Protoss has only really had MC and maybe Genius, everyone else has a hot period and vanishes away.

Hoping Seed can improve and become a big name, he is in the same team with Nestea and MVP, so he couldnt possibly wish for better practice partners, either that or we have to hope that some of the Kespa Protossessesses can become major players.

What I really like about Seed is that he seems to have nerves of steel. There is a large batch of skilled players whose primary deficiencies are mindset and pressure management.
During this GSL run, have we ever seen Seed "choking"? His execution during this finals was impressively clean.

kusto

Russian Federation823 Posts

July 27 2012 13:11 GMT

#4551

On July 27 2012 21:49 PanzerKing wrote:

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The Marauder takes more micro than almost any unit in the game, and it creates the need for almost as much micro on the part of the Protoss player. The fact that you do not like losing to bio does not make the Marauder a 1-A unit.

You can kite melee units with any unit, i.e. Marines or Roach - hell, everything that can shoot.
Removing/Nerfing Marauders wouldn't make the game less skillful. Besides, i don't know what you're talking about, i myself go Bio in TvT against Mech and MMMVG in TvP.

It's still a shitty unit as there is no strategical component like securing/sieging positions (Siegetank) or exerting map control (Hellion).

However, back on topic: I really really dislike MC, so i'm glad he lost. Now all matchups were covered in GSL finals, no?

TheDougler

Canada8302 Posts

July 27 2012 13:11 GMT

#4552

On July 27 2012 21:25 Badfatpanda wrote:
Congrats Seed! I thought 4-2 but this is better

Another win for IM, maybe someday they'll learn to translate their superiority to team leagues haha.

Probable IPLTAC champions is a start

Orek

1665 Posts

July 27 2012 13:12 GMT

#4553

Different interests form different people

Us spectators: want to watch entertaining games
GOM TV: want to present entertaining games so that more people watch
Players: want to win, fuck entertainment

Seed doesn't get a penny for playing entertaining games or giving exciting interview for us.
Not like some mediocre foreign players who rely on fanboy money.

Doodsmack

United States7224 Posts

July 27 2012 13:13 GMT

#4554

No surprise that the ZvZ and PvP finals were the most boring to date lol.

Tyree

1508 Posts

July 27 2012 13:13 GMT

#4555

There is also no argument to be made against PvP, its not like any of the other finals were insanely fun to watch. Inca vs Nestea was worse in what a shamble and joke it made the game to look like, that final was a farce, this final was just boring.

A dream final this season would have been Symbol vs Naniwa, just the storylines would be great. Both "new" players on the top of GSL scene, and a foreigner in the finals for the first time.

But this isent WWE, the best man won, and that was Seed

Demonidze

194 Posts

July 27 2012 13:15 GMT

#4556

Seed did what ever he could to win, and thats fine. but thats what PvP is all about. why any other match up much more entertaining to watch while players still play to win? imho its blizzard fault that they made PvP what it is, its their responsibility to fix it.

lessQQmorePEWPEW

Jamaica921 Posts

July 27 2012 13:15 GMT

#4557

toss needs to be nerfed

User was warned for this post

opterown

Australia54784 Posts

July 27 2012 13:16 GMT

#4558

On July 27 2012 22:08 Asha` wrote:

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Was he giving up a WCG spot or a WCS spot?

oops my bad mc just tweeted that he's playing in wcg tomorrow lol no idea what the interview was about then haha

DMKraft

476 Posts

July 27 2012 13:16 GMT

#4559

PvP finals, the mirror matchup finals that can only be made more entertaining by buffing Terran.

vthree

Hong Kong8039 Posts

July 27 2012 13:16 GMT

#4560

On July 27 2012 22:09 opterown wrote:

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WCG i think
seeker mistranslated a few things, i'm pretty sure he's giving up his WCG and not WCS spot

It is WCG. MC said in his interview that it clashed with ROG due to schedule change. But it seems it won't clash now so maybe they changed the schedule back again. The WCG qualifier has been pretty poorly ran it seems. Genius didn't know about it until he read Code A interview of other players (he is tealoess but still...). MC is still in the brackets so hopefully he will play.