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skipdog172
Profile Joined June 2010
United States331 Posts
July 27 2012 21:38 GMT
#4681
It saddens me that the starcraft community has to make such a big deal about 'how horrible the finals were' and whine and whine and whine all because... MC played very poorly. I mean he straight up didn't know how to approach this series and it showed. Why everybody has to waste their breath on whining about PvP or SC2 in general is beyond my comprehension. I guess the whiners are the loudest.

To me, this is the same as a Superbowl blowout... yeah it wasn't a close game, but nobody is whining to the high heavens about the sport when that happens.
Chicken Chaser
Profile Joined July 2010
United States533 Posts
July 27 2012 21:45 GMT
#4682
On July 28 2012 06:38 skipdog172 wrote:
It saddens me that the starcraft community has to make such a big deal about 'how horrible the finals were' and whine and whine and whine all because... MC played very poorly. I mean he straight up didn't know how to approach this series and it showed. Why everybody has to waste their breath on whining about PvP or SC2 in general is beyond my comprehension. I guess the whiners are the loudest.

To me, this is the same as a Superbowl blowout... yeah it wasn't a close game, but nobody is whining to the high heavens about the sport when that happens.


Even MC admitted in the interviews that he prepared completely wrong for the series: he thought Seed would play FE builds and prepared for that instead
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
July 27 2012 22:47 GMT
#4683
On July 28 2012 06:38 skipdog172 wrote:
It saddens me that the starcraft community has to make such a big deal about 'how horrible the finals were' and whine and whine and whine all because... MC played very poorly. I mean he straight up didn't know how to approach this series and it showed. Why everybody has to waste their breath on whining about PvP or SC2 in general is beyond my comprehension. I guess the whiners are the loudest.

To me, this is the same as a Superbowl blowout... yeah it wasn't a close game, but nobody is whining to the high heavens about the sport when that happens.


Because one is a universally accepted sport and the other is struggling to prove itself in Korea. There's good reason to care about the quality of the games.
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Gackt_
Profile Joined March 2010
335 Posts
July 28 2012 01:35 GMT
#4684
Now we know what a PvP final looks like at GSL! fun
Cecilia
Profile Joined March 2011
United States16 Posts
July 28 2012 02:18 GMT
#4685
Was this worse than Inca vs. Nestea?
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
July 28 2012 05:49 GMT
#4686
On July 28 2012 06:38 skipdog172 wrote:
It saddens me that the starcraft community has to make such a big deal about 'how horrible the finals were' and whine and whine and whine all because... MC played very poorly. I mean he straight up didn't know how to approach this series and it showed. Why everybody has to waste their breath on whining about PvP or SC2 in general is beyond my comprehension. I guess the whiners are the loudest.

To me, this is the same as a Superbowl blowout... yeah it wasn't a close game, but nobody is whining to the high heavens about the sport when that happens.


I think it shows that PvP is a guessing game, no matter how much people like to claim it is skill based. Yes, there is skill involved, and obviously the better you are the more likely you are to guess right, as well as execute better, but frankly MC was forced to guess, he guessed wrong, and Seed guessed correctly.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1706 Posts
July 28 2012 05:50 GMT
#4687
On July 28 2012 11:18 Cecilia wrote:
Was this worse than Inca vs. Nestea?


Yes.
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CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
July 28 2012 05:59 GMT
#4688
On July 28 2012 14:50 ShowTheLights wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 11:18 Cecilia wrote:
Was this worse than Inca vs. Nestea?


Yes.


don't be ridiculous. Inca did the same build 4 games in a row, and everyone expected Nestea to stomp Inca anyways. nothing about that series was interesting at all.

Seed was the underdog and outplayed MC. it was an upset and Seed mind gamed MC hard by doing the same build two games in a row.
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
July 28 2012 07:52 GMT
#4689
Looks like I didn't miss out on much.
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
July 28 2012 09:06 GMT
#4690
On July 28 2012 00:29 Figgy wrote:
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On July 27 2012 22:13 Doodsmack wrote:
No surprise that the ZvZ and PvP finals were the most boring to date lol.


You clearly forget Nestea vs Inca. And to that I say, you are a lucky man. Not just the worst finals, the worst match of the entire GSL history.


Well, the Inca Nestea finals are more in everybodies memory than most other finals. At least they are memorable.
JyB
Profile Joined January 2012
France466 Posts
July 28 2012 09:59 GMT
#4691
On July 27 2012 22:50 SkelA wrote:
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On July 27 2012 22:25 ImNightmare wrote:
lol, knew it, PvP just sucks for a final. And people were still confident it would be epic. If its just a Bo3 it might still be exciting. This is why I say protoss needs a huge overhaul. Warp in makes boring games. Buff gateway units, remove warp gate mechanic and instantly everything becomes nice to watch but nooooo.. blizzard wants their warpgate. sigh...


I think warpgates are ok . Just you need to remove warpins from pylons and put the warping only around gates + nexus and for warp prism only.


wow. I think you just resolved everything. :O
Lizarb
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark307 Posts
July 28 2012 12:01 GMT
#4692
PvP can be an interesting matchup, but sadly this final wasn't. Still congratulations to Seed.
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AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2116 Posts
July 28 2012 13:13 GMT
#4693
Fuck me...
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RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
July 29 2012 05:29 GMT
#4694
On July 28 2012 14:59 CuSToM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 14:50 ShowTheLights wrote:
On July 28 2012 11:18 Cecilia wrote:
Was this worse than Inca vs. Nestea?


Yes.


don't be ridiculous. Inca did the same build 4 games in a row, and everyone expected Nestea to stomp Inca anyways. nothing about that series was interesting at all.

Seed was the underdog and outplayed MC. it was an upset and Seed mind gamed MC hard by doing the same build two games in a row.


But Inca Vs Nestea was funny in that way.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37058 Posts
July 30 2012 02:49 GMT
#4695
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