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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 18:40:25
July 27 2012 18:37 GMT
#4661
Yeah, sentiment of most of the thread I'll just reiterate.

As a fan of MC and Seed I am happy to see either win, and have to congratulate seed for his play and mindgames.

However, PvP doesn't make for good series. Maybe there's a "oh shi-" game occasionally, but there's no such thing as an exciting PvP series because the metagame and 1 base plays are such an enormous part of the matchup.

Worst finals? I don't think Nestea v Inca can be surpassed, but this is definitely the worst finals (at the very least) since probably Nestea v Losira about a year ago now. I mean a lot of what makes PvP really interesting wasn't even on display. Game 1 was an interesting start, but that was probably the only one I'd give a maybe to watch.

Even though I'm not for a lot of the HotS changes I feel mothership core will be a plus to PvP in HotS since it will instill more of a defender's advantage. Just something which means that expanding doesn't mean death to almost-every-1-base-build a Protoss player can throw out.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 18:41:23
July 27 2012 18:40 GMT
#4662
On July 27 2012 21:49 PanzerKing wrote:
The Marauder takes more micro than almost any unit in the game, and it creates the need for almost as much micro on the part of the Protoss player. The fact that you do not like losing to bio does not make the Marauder a 1-A unit.


Marauder takes micro ? Rofl, more joke plz, it takes as much micro as a marine. Well, no, marines require more micro. Marauder is still a 1-A unit than even a child could use at full efficency.

On July 27 2012 21:57 Sated wrote:
Wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that you're French and therefore want to push the, "GSL isn't important, Stephano #1!" agenda...


Oh nice, if a french says that he doesn't like GSL, then it means "Stephano is way more important than everything else" ?
God dammit, words are missing to explain how much retard you are -_-


User was temp banned for this post.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
July 27 2012 18:46 GMT
#4663
On July 28 2012 03:40 Sakray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 21:49 PanzerKing wrote:
The Marauder takes more micro than almost any unit in the game, and it creates the need for almost as much micro on the part of the Protoss player. The fact that you do not like losing to bio does not make the Marauder a 1-A unit.


Marauder takes micro ? Rofl, more joke plz, it takes as much micro as a marine. Well, no, marines require more micro. Marauder is still a 1-A unit than even a child could use at full efficency.


That's a pretty strong bias there. You are right in your statement that a Marauder takes as much micro as a marine (debatable in bits) but really saying it's just a 1-A unit is then the anti-thesis of that isn't it? Marines are one of the most micro intensive units in the game and I don't think there's a single matchup where a-moving marauders is the winning strategy. As an adult I'm far from being able to use the marauder at "full efficiency".

So uhhh, either there's a great joke here I'm missing or you've got some bias there. I know people don't like Marauders, but don't make incorrect statements about the unit.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
July 27 2012 18:49 GMT
#4664
hah.. great job seed.. first victory!! boo yeah!!

XD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
July 27 2012 18:58 GMT
#4665
I went to sleep as soon as the pre-game show started and it looked like only 5 rows were filled with people. Did the audience attendance get any better?
"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
July 27 2012 19:00 GMT
#4666
I thought that this was meant to be on saturday?! Damn.
Go seed I guess ^^
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
SomeONEx
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden641 Posts
July 27 2012 19:03 GMT
#4667
On July 28 2012 03:58 Aegeis wrote:
I went to sleep as soon as the pre-game show started and it looked like only 5 rows were filled with people. Did the audience attendance get any better?

Much better!
BW hwaiting!
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
July 27 2012 19:04 GMT
#4668
On July 28 2012 03:40 Sakray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 21:49 PanzerKing wrote:
The Marauder takes more micro than almost any unit in the game, and it creates the need for almost as much micro on the part of the Protoss player. The fact that you do not like losing to bio does not make the Marauder a 1-A unit.


Marauder takes micro ? Rofl, more joke plz, it takes as much micro as a marine. Well, no, marines require more micro. Marauder is still a 1-A unit than even a child could use at full efficency.

Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 21:57 Sated wrote:
Wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that you're French and therefore want to push the, "GSL isn't important, Stephano #1!" agenda...


Oh nice, if a french says that he doesn't like GSL, then it means "Stephano is way more important than everything else" ?
God dammit, words are missing to explain how much retard you are -_-



lol dude try playing terran and a-moving your bioball into ANY protoss or zerg army. rofl such ignorance. a-moving your bioball = you are dead
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
July 27 2012 19:04 GMT
#4669
On July 28 2012 04:03 SomeONEx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 03:58 Aegeis wrote:
I went to sleep as soon as the pre-game show started and it looked like only 5 rows were filled with people. Did the audience attendance get any better?

Much better!


That's great to hear are there any pictures around?
"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 19:15:20
July 27 2012 19:09 GMT
#4670
PvP still the worst matchup in the game.

It's pretty lame that the matchup revolves around a large period of blindness and no scouting where neither player can scout the other, so both are guessing.

ZvZ has gotten a lot better lately, and can be a lot of fun to watch. Often goes to the late game now, and it's not too hard to live past the early game all-in stage.

TvT has always been the best mirror.

PvP is just awful >_<.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
ReadySetFire
Profile Joined October 2011
Kuwait545 Posts
July 27 2012 19:13 GMT
#4671
Finals were terrible. Like anyone didn't see that coming. Protoss is such a poorly designed race and mostly retards play it

User was temp banned for this post.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 19:22:20
July 27 2012 19:16 GMT
#4672
Wow at ^^.

Surely, that calls for a temp ban?

I've just logged on this morning and see 4 - 1 to Seed. That was unexpected, but not unwelcome.

Can some Protoss provide a brief description of the final?

Edit/ I don't really want to read over the thread as the last few pages is just asinine whining about poor racial design and warp gates. Just the same old crap that's not just wrong, but also dead boring after 2 years of the game being out.

Edit 2/ Nvm, I see a TL recap.

KT best KT ~ 2014
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 27 2012 19:19 GMT
#4673
On July 28 2012 04:04 Aegeis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 04:03 SomeONEx wrote:
On July 28 2012 03:58 Aegeis wrote:
I went to sleep as soon as the pre-game show started and it looked like only 5 rows were filled with people. Did the audience attendance get any better?

Much better!


That's great to hear are there any pictures around?

Just ones showing the back five rows and left side empty lol. People really want to hate on attendance.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
July 27 2012 19:56 GMT
#4674
Until now Seed was only a PvZ specialist to me. His PvZ is the very best for months now, but his other matchups allways seemed to lack that brilliance. But this season, he proved to be the total package. He joins the club of top notch well rounded protoss players which consists Squirtle, Genius, MC, Creator (which was in a bit of slump in the past few weeks).
Protoss players look really scary lately, there are a lot of insanely good protosses, both in korea and outside. Expect many more protoss tournament wins...
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
July 27 2012 20:13 GMT
#4675
On July 28 2012 04:19 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 04:04 Aegeis wrote:
On July 28 2012 04:03 SomeONEx wrote:
On July 28 2012 03:58 Aegeis wrote:
I went to sleep as soon as the pre-game show started and it looked like only 5 rows were filled with people. Did the audience attendance get any better?

Much better!


That's great to hear are there any pictures around?

Just ones showing the back five rows and left side empty lol. People really want to hate on attendance.


I think the attendance was really good. It's a shame they watched more Total Recall commercials than SC2.
Never make a hydralisk.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 27 2012 20:50 GMT
#4676
On July 28 2012 02:57 Gatored wrote:
Let's hope we never have another PvP final again.

Actually, any mirror is pretty boring. TvT is the most watchable IMO.


ZvZ has been getting WAY better, actually. Plenty of long exciting games with room for short edge-of-the-seat cheese/cheese defense games as well.
EuLoGy[kTw]
Profile Joined July 2012
United States82 Posts
July 27 2012 21:01 GMT
#4677
Really happy Seed won. IM is the team of champions. Also I find it amusing watching MC lose, his head isn't as big now, which is great.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
July 27 2012 21:09 GMT
#4678
On July 28 2012 04:56 TeeTS wrote:
Until now Seed was only a PvZ specialist to me. His PvZ is the very best for months now, but his other matchups allways seemed to lack that brilliance. But this season, he proved to be the total package. He joins the club of top notch well rounded protoss players which consists Squirtle, Genius, MC, Creator (which was in a bit of slump in the past few weeks).
Protoss players look really scary lately, there are a lot of insanely good protosses, both in korea and outside. Expect many more protoss tournament wins...

I wouldn't put Creator up there yet.
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Apus
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand74 Posts
July 27 2012 21:20 GMT
#4679
I thought overall the series would be a lot more of what we saw in the final game. I guess MC thought so too.

Personally, I was a little let down by the finals. I kinda knew I was going to be, though. I didn't mind whether it was MC or Seed who won the trophy, I just wanted to see some good games, but it's PvP.

It was a very IM win, imo. All maps were well thought out, and designed to absolutely destroy MC. IM has always been great at this side of SC2, all their players always look so well prepared when it comes to individual leagues.

Congrats, Seed. Did what he had to and it worked a treat. I'm glad there's a new Protoss champ. Now for the next season I hope he gets to take out a Terran in the finals ;D
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 21:24:01
July 27 2012 21:23 GMT
#4680
On July 28 2012 06:20 Apus wrote:
I thought overall the series would be a lot more of what we saw in the final game. I guess MC thought so too.

Personally, I was a little let down by the finals. I kinda knew I was going to be, though. I didn't mind whether it was MC or Seed who won the trophy, I just wanted to see some good games, but it's PvP.

It was a very IM win, imo. All maps were well thought out, and designed to absolutely destroy MC. IM has always been great at this side of SC2, all their players always look so well prepared when it comes to individual leagues.

Congrats, Seed. Did what he had to and it worked a treat. I'm glad there's a new Protoss champ. Now for the next season I hope he gets to take out a Terran in the finals ;D

Nestea is the only one to ever win 2 GSLs in a row and the only one to win a GSL without losing a single set. I don't see anybody achieving that anytime soon again.
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
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