• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 13:47
CET 19:47
KST 03:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 101SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1820Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
uThermal 2v2 Circuit OSC Season 13 World Championship WardiTV Mondays $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
Empty tournaments section on Liquipedia A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone I would like to say something about StarCraft StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
SLON Grand Finals – Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Elden Ring Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1976 users

[GSTL] Grand Finals Season 2 2012 - Page 270

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 268 269 270 271 272 278 Next
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
July 28 2012 13:46 GMT
#5381
i think i solved it.... SlayerS-EG needed IdrA to take down gumiho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 28 2012 13:46 GMT
#5382
On July 28 2012 22:44 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 22:43 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 28 2012 22:41 iSunrise wrote:
On July 28 2012 22:40 sparklyresidue wrote:
Gumiho with beach power, takes the final, making certain that BOTH finals were kinda boring. Good for him though, I guess.

SlayerS fan detected.


Is it that hard to believe that some people wanted a close, back-and-forth series where more FXO players were showcased? I wanted to see Leenock and Tear do some work and wanted to just see more games overall, and especially the insane dramatic tension of an ace match.

that was not a boring finals really.

i know personally i wanted to see a few more players/games, but four out of the five games were really good.


I never said it was a boring finals, people (like the guy iSunrise was replying to) are prone to hyperbole. But I really wanted to see more games and just wanted it to be closer. I wouldn't have been happy if SlayerS got an all-kill either.
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
July 28 2012 13:46 GMT
#5383
The results dont show how fucking awesome and crazy the games were.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
July 28 2012 13:47 GMT
#5384
On July 28 2012 22:46 ThePlayer33 wrote:
i think i solved it.... SlayerS-EG needed IdrA to take down gumiho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



*IdrA scouts the 1 Rax 4CC in game 2*

EGIdrA has left the game!
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 28 2012 13:47 GMT
#5385
On July 28 2012 22:46 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 22:44 opterown wrote:
On July 28 2012 22:43 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 28 2012 22:41 iSunrise wrote:
On July 28 2012 22:40 sparklyresidue wrote:
Gumiho with beach power, takes the final, making certain that BOTH finals were kinda boring. Good for him though, I guess.

SlayerS fan detected.


Is it that hard to believe that some people wanted a close, back-and-forth series where more FXO players were showcased? I wanted to see Leenock and Tear do some work and wanted to just see more games overall, and especially the insane dramatic tension of an ace match.

that was not a boring finals really.

i know personally i wanted to see a few more players/games, but four out of the five games were really good.


I never said it was a boring finals, people (like the guy iSunrise was replying to) are prone to hyperbole. But I really wanted to see more games and just wanted it to be closer. I wouldn't have been happy if SlayerS got an all-kill either.

i know, i was sorta replying to both you and sparklyresidue in one go
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 28 2012 13:48 GMT
#5386
On July 28 2012 22:47 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 22:46 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 28 2012 22:44 opterown wrote:
On July 28 2012 22:43 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 28 2012 22:41 iSunrise wrote:
On July 28 2012 22:40 sparklyresidue wrote:
Gumiho with beach power, takes the final, making certain that BOTH finals were kinda boring. Good for him though, I guess.

SlayerS fan detected.


Is it that hard to believe that some people wanted a close, back-and-forth series where more FXO players were showcased? I wanted to see Leenock and Tear do some work and wanted to just see more games overall, and especially the insane dramatic tension of an ace match.

that was not a boring finals really.

i know personally i wanted to see a few more players/games, but four out of the five games were really good.


I never said it was a boring finals, people (like the guy iSunrise was replying to) are prone to hyperbole. But I really wanted to see more games and just wanted it to be closer. I wouldn't have been happy if SlayerS got an all-kill either.

i know, i was sorta replying to both you and sparklyresidue in one go


Oh, ok
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
July 28 2012 13:49 GMT
#5387
On July 28 2012 22:47 Havik_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 22:46 ThePlayer33 wrote:
i think i solved it.... SlayerS-EG needed IdrA to take down gumiho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



*IdrA scouts the 1 Rax 4CC in game 2*

EGIdrA has left the game!

Definitely! ^^
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
July 28 2012 13:50 GMT
#5388
On July 28 2012 22:46 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 22:44 opterown wrote:
On July 28 2012 22:43 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 28 2012 22:41 iSunrise wrote:
On July 28 2012 22:40 sparklyresidue wrote:
Gumiho with beach power, takes the final, making certain that BOTH finals were kinda boring. Good for him though, I guess.

SlayerS fan detected.


Is it that hard to believe that some people wanted a close, back-and-forth series where more FXO players were showcased? I wanted to see Leenock and Tear do some work and wanted to just see more games overall, and especially the insane dramatic tension of an ace match.

that was not a boring finals really.

i know personally i wanted to see a few more players/games, but four out of the five games were really good.


I never said it was a boring finals, people (like the guy iSunrise was replying to) are prone to hyperbole. But I really wanted to see more games and just wanted it to be closer. I wouldn't have been happy if SlayerS got an all-kill either.

Yeah, more games with other players from FXO would probably have been great. But since that didn´t happen it´s pretty hard to argue that it would´ve been a better finals afterwards. We just don´t know. I was extremely pleased to see Gumiho playing his heart out and I could feel that he was very happy, too.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 28 2012 13:51 GMT
#5389
On July 28 2012 22:49 ibo422 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 22:47 Havik_ wrote:
On July 28 2012 22:46 ThePlayer33 wrote:
i think i solved it.... SlayerS-EG needed IdrA to take down gumiho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



*IdrA scouts the 1 Rax 4CC in game 2*

EGIdrA has left the game!

Definitely! ^^

more like
SCV scouts idra's base!
idra has left the game!
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Cabinet Sanchez
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia1097 Posts
July 28 2012 13:52 GMT
#5390
On July 28 2012 19:36 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 19:33 Tobblish wrote:
On July 28 2012 19:28 KiNGxXx wrote:
[image loading]


I demand a Fanpage! :@


I demand you get one ! !


NO ONE DID THIS >
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 13:53:49
July 28 2012 13:52 GMT
#5391
As an aside, kind of surprised that SlayerS didn't throw more Tosses at Gumiho given that he recently got rolled by Squirtle in Code A and was taken out by a Toss player last time he played in the team league if I remember correctly. Alicia instead of Min would have been a much better choice IMO, it's been shown that you have to stop Gumiho early or he tends to go on a roll. Only in the ace match did they finally use a Toss and there was just too much pressure on Puzzle to play aggressively and/or optimally.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
July 28 2012 13:53 GMT
#5392
On July 28 2012 22:43 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 22:41 iSunrise wrote:
On July 28 2012 22:40 sparklyresidue wrote:
Gumiho with beach power, takes the final, making certain that BOTH finals were kinda boring. Good for him though, I guess.

SlayerS fan detected.


Is it that hard to believe that some people wanted a close, back-and-forth series where more FXO players were showcased? I wanted to see Leenock and Tear do some work and wanted to just see more games overall, and especially the insane dramatic tension of an ace match.

Still, no denying that the finals was really exciting. Calling it boring is just stupid.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
July 28 2012 13:53 GMT
#5393
On July 28 2012 22:51 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 22:49 ibo422 wrote:
On July 28 2012 22:47 Havik_ wrote:
On July 28 2012 22:46 ThePlayer33 wrote:
i think i solved it.... SlayerS-EG needed IdrA to take down gumiho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



*IdrA scouts the 1 Rax 4CC in game 2*

EGIdrA has left the game!

Definitely! ^^

more like
SCV scouts idra's base!
idra has left the game!


no. you are not funny.


So sad that we couldnt see more games, the ones we saw were just so amazing.
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 28 2012 13:54 GMT
#5394
On July 28 2012 22:52 HolyArrow wrote:
As an aside, kind of surprised that SlayerS didn't throw more Tosses at Gumiho given that he recently got rolled by Squirtle in Code A and was taken out by a Toss player last time he played in the team league if I remember correctly. Alicia instead of Min would have been a much better choice IMO, it's been shown that you have to stop Gumiho early or he tends to go on a roll.

but a zerg on atlantis spaceship, when gumiho is also a tad shaky against zerg, and THEN a great zerg on metropolis would be more than enough for almost any terran.

metropolis and atlantis are like 35% TvZ lol
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 13:56:34
July 28 2012 13:55 GMT
#5395
On July 28 2012 22:52 HolyArrow wrote:
As an aside, kind of surprised that SlayerS didn't throw more Tosses at Gumiho given that he recently got rolled by Squirtle in Code A and was taken out by a Toss player last time he played in the team league if I remember correctly. Alicia instead of Min would have been a much better choice IMO, it's been shown that you have to stop Gumiho early or he tends to go on a roll.



I mostly agree, although they clearly prepared Min as a sniper, but Gumiho knew this and thus did the greediest build known to man figuring that Min wouldn't deviate from the gameplan that he had, and Gumiho was right. If Min all ined right there, theres no way Gumiho holds. You can't hold four CCs off of two Marines.



EDIT: And where's my Choi Ha Na fan thread dammit!
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 13:56:30
July 28 2012 13:56 GMT
#5396
On July 28 2012 22:53 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 22:43 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 28 2012 22:41 iSunrise wrote:
On July 28 2012 22:40 sparklyresidue wrote:
Gumiho with beach power, takes the final, making certain that BOTH finals were kinda boring. Good for him though, I guess.

SlayerS fan detected.


Is it that hard to believe that some people wanted a close, back-and-forth series where more FXO players were showcased? I wanted to see Leenock and Tear do some work and wanted to just see more games overall, and especially the insane dramatic tension of an ace match.

Still, no denying that the finals was really exciting. Calling it boring is just stupid.

Kind of relative and subjective; so it's a different definition of "exciting" for every individual really...

I mean some people think that having 1-2 good games is exciting, some people thinks that only getting to an ace match is exciting; some people thinks it's exciting as long as it's better than last season's Vegas shitfest, some people thinks it's only exciting if it gets to an ace match classic DRG vs MMA level like a few season back.

So I don't know why you guys are still arguing over something that everyone defines completely differently lol
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 28 2012 13:56 GMT
#5397
On July 28 2012 22:54 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 22:52 HolyArrow wrote:
As an aside, kind of surprised that SlayerS didn't throw more Tosses at Gumiho given that he recently got rolled by Squirtle in Code A and was taken out by a Toss player last time he played in the team league if I remember correctly. Alicia instead of Min would have been a much better choice IMO, it's been shown that you have to stop Gumiho early or he tends to go on a roll.

but a zerg on atlantis spaceship, when gumiho is also a tad shaky against zerg, and THEN a great zerg on metropolis would be more than enough for almost any terran.

metropolis and atlantis are like 35% TvZ lol


I just don't have any faith in Min. He hasn't shown himself to be anywhere near Gumiho's level, even with those TvZ stats.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 28 2012 13:57 GMT
#5398
if you guys want close to ace match exciting, watch FXO-MVP
that went to ace and had great games too
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
July 28 2012 13:59 GMT
#5399
Whaaaaaaaaaat?!? Certainly didn't expect that to happen...
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
July 28 2012 13:59 GMT
#5400
Well I haven't read the rest of the posts here yet but here are my thoughts on the series:

LOVED IT.

I mean, I was rooting for slayers so that sucked, but Gumiho played SO well that I can look past that:

Game one was the pinocle of macro by Gumiho against the best multi pronged attacks in the business by MMA. Both players played SO well though. MMA just overextended twice and those two manner mules coulda been the difference as well. Still, not many players could break that contain SO well like that.

Game two... Was wierd. Not sure why Slayers went for min rather than Alicia or Ryung for their sniper. I mean sure if Min wins he has better matchups ahead, but still seems like faulty logic to me. That build by Gumiho was rediculous though. He had 6 command centers by twelve minutes! I feel like the macro orbital is extremely strong at the pro level because players need to learn an extra set of timings against it, we saw that in game five as well.

Game three was pretty damn exciting. The Best has taught Gumiho well.

Same with game four. That build is free spawn of Satan. I almost want to switch to Terran I love that build so much.

Game five was a fairly standard TvP but puzzle's obs being out of position cost him the game. Was strait up play though which is a nice way to finish off the all kill.

Grats to Gumiho, me and my buddies were thuroughly entertained.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Prev 1 268 269 270 271 272 278 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
18:00
FSL s9 code B championships
Freeedom20
Liquipedia
OSC
18:00
World Championship: Challenger
WardiTV739
davetesta18
Belair 17
LiquipediaDiscussion
IPSL
17:00
Ro4 Set 1
Dewalt vs Bonyth
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Liquid`MaNa 250
trigger 151
BRAT_OK 92
JuggernautJason72
Railgan 32
MindelVK 32
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 28406
Shuttle 335
Mong 67
Hyun 60
Aegong 35
Sexy 20
soO 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
Dota 2
qojqva3072
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps2028
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu430
Other Games
Grubby4557
Liquid`RaSZi2580
Gorgc2512
FrodaN1656
fl0m565
mouzStarbuck463
DeMusliM345
JimRising 322
B2W.Neo270
ArmadaUGS185
Livibee89
Mew2King81
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 43
• printf 28
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Airneanach114
• 80smullet 14
• FirePhoenix4
• Pr0nogo 1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV584
League of Legends
• Nemesis2828
Other Games
• imaqtpie1727
• Shiphtur332
Upcoming Events
OSC
17h 13m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
19h 13m
Replay Cast
1d 14h
Wardi Open
1d 17h
RotterdaM Event
1d 22h
Patches Events
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
OSC
2 days
OSC
3 days
OSC
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.