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xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
July 22 2012 18:20 GMT
#1221
On July 23 2012 03:18 ShakkaFL wrote:
why not max graphic settings?


It's hard for even the best computers to get 60 fps in 200 vs 200 fights on max graphics.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
July 22 2012 18:20 GMT
#1222
On July 23 2012 03:17 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 03:15 Darpa wrote:
On July 23 2012 03:14 tree.hugger wrote:
On July 23 2012 03:12 Yaki wrote:
Is MLG going to remove extended series some day ? I mean are they just keeping it to annoy everyone ? I see no valid point in keeping it and it is really unfair.
Ironically, the only positive of extended series is actually that it is fair.



Pretty much this, its gives the person who won an advantage and the person who lost a disadvantage, how is that no fair.


You don't understand what fair means.

It's fair but it's stupid. Saying that the person who lost the match starts with a 2-0 advantage in the extended series (instead of the winner) is also fair. But it's also stupid.


What? No, that's NOT fair. It's fair to give an advantage to the player who already beat the guy once, it's not fair to do the opposite.

If player A and player B meet in round 7, and player B loses, it's decidedly unfair to let player B get a clean slate in round 3 if they meet again.

The only problem with extended series is that it makes for terribad finals.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
July 22 2012 18:21 GMT
#1223
On July 23 2012 03:20 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 03:17 FairForever wrote:
On July 23 2012 03:15 Darpa wrote:
On July 23 2012 03:14 tree.hugger wrote:
On July 23 2012 03:12 Yaki wrote:
Is MLG going to remove extended series some day ? I mean are they just keeping it to annoy everyone ? I see no valid point in keeping it and it is really unfair.
Ironically, the only positive of extended series is actually that it is fair.



Pretty much this, its gives the person who won an advantage and the person who lost a disadvantage, how is that no fair.


You don't understand what fair means.

It's fair but it's stupid. Saying that the person who lost the match starts with a 2-0 advantage in the extended series (instead of the winner) is also fair. But it's also stupid.


What? No, that's NOT fair. It's fair to give an advantage to the player who already beat the guy once, it's not fair to do the opposite.

If player A and player B meet in round 7, and player B loses, it's decidedly unfair to let player B get a clean slate in round 3 if they meet again.

The only problem with extended series is that it makes for terribad finals.


You don't understand what fair means. It's still fair.

I hate Extended Series and hope they get rid of it. Just tree.hugger based his post on semantics (the word "fair"), and none of you understand.

Trust me, my name has the word "fair" in it, I know what it means.
Urbz
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands456 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-22 18:22:32
July 22 2012 18:22 GMT
#1224
Lets agree to disagree, and instead look forwards to a final WITHOUT extended series at least hm?
If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 22 2012 18:22 GMT
#1225
When behind, Dark Shrine!
Moderator
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
July 22 2012 18:22 GMT
#1226
On July 23 2012 03:21 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 03:20 yeint wrote:
On July 23 2012 03:17 FairForever wrote:
On July 23 2012 03:15 Darpa wrote:
On July 23 2012 03:14 tree.hugger wrote:
On July 23 2012 03:12 Yaki wrote:
Is MLG going to remove extended series some day ? I mean are they just keeping it to annoy everyone ? I see no valid point in keeping it and it is really unfair.
Ironically, the only positive of extended series is actually that it is fair.



Pretty much this, its gives the person who won an advantage and the person who lost a disadvantage, how is that no fair.


You don't understand what fair means.

It's fair but it's stupid. Saying that the person who lost the match starts with a 2-0 advantage in the extended series (instead of the winner) is also fair. But it's also stupid.


What? No, that's NOT fair. It's fair to give an advantage to the player who already beat the guy once, it's not fair to do the opposite.

If player A and player B meet in round 7, and player B loses, it's decidedly unfair to let player B get a clean slate in round 3 if they meet again.

The only problem with extended series is that it makes for terribad finals.


You don't understand what fair means. It's still fair.

I hate Extended Series and hope they get rid of it. Just tree.hugger based his post on semantics (the word "fair"), and none of you understand.

Trust me, my name has the word "fair" in it, I know what it means.


I wish my name had "facedesk" in it, because it's what I'm doing right now.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
July 22 2012 18:22 GMT
#1227
On July 23 2012 03:20 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 03:18 ShakkaFL wrote:
why not max graphic settings?


It's hard for even the best computers to get 60 fps in 200 vs 200 fights on max graphics.

I think tournaments should use Medium settings with Ultra texture settings. It's looks really crisp and there isn't to much effects so it makes it really hard to follow and it doesn't suck out so much performance on the PC.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
July 22 2012 18:23 GMT
#1228
I don't think the extended series rule is fair, double elimination bracket means to me that if you lose twice you're out but a player getting the advantage because of this rule can lose twice and still be in. How is this fair?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-22 18:24:58
July 22 2012 18:23 GMT
#1229
One of the silly aspects of extended series (when it comes to Starcraft particularly - which this system wasn't designed for) is that it awards the gimmicky player who wins the first games in a long series, and punishes the intelligent player who figures his opponent's style, adapts and starts winning in the later games of a long series.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
July 22 2012 18:24 GMT
#1230
Strictly speaking, extended series is fair, but I still want it gone. MLG just doesn't like someone going home if they won the overall series against a person. This happens in GSL a lot. MKP 2-0 genius first match, then loses 2-1 next match. MKP goes home despite having a 3-2 record against genius overall.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 22 2012 18:24 GMT
#1231
Oh god I have to leave this thread right now, otherwise I am going crazy.

People claiming that extended series is fair make me want to rip my hair out. I just cant stand so much absence of logic.
Off-season = best season
RawrbHero
Profile Joined September 2010
United States165 Posts
July 22 2012 18:24 GMT
#1232
With the way this format is, we cant possibly have an extended format grand finals. Im just hoping Taeja beats First so we can have at least a non-PVP final.
Its not today that im worried about, but tomorrow that scares the shit out of me...
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
July 22 2012 18:24 GMT
#1233
Such a boring game, no real fights and 17 minutes in.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
DLJ
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany44 Posts
July 22 2012 18:24 GMT
#1234
On July 23 2012 03:20 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 03:18 ShakkaFL wrote:
why not max graphic settings?


It's hard for even the best computers to get 60 fps in 200 vs 200 fights on max graphics.


They broadcast in 30fps, so 30 are enough. And even my 9800GTX+ can render this. And if you lower the Details, you should lower Details that make no difference.
I play with a on High and can't see a Difference to Ultra at all. But they lowered the only Setting that makes a huge difference for the viewer and has no real impact in Performance.
....MLG
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
July 22 2012 18:25 GMT
#1235
On July 23 2012 03:22 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 03:21 FairForever wrote:
On July 23 2012 03:20 yeint wrote:
On July 23 2012 03:17 FairForever wrote:
On July 23 2012 03:15 Darpa wrote:
On July 23 2012 03:14 tree.hugger wrote:
On July 23 2012 03:12 Yaki wrote:
Is MLG going to remove extended series some day ? I mean are they just keeping it to annoy everyone ? I see no valid point in keeping it and it is really unfair.
Ironically, the only positive of extended series is actually that it is fair.



Pretty much this, its gives the person who won an advantage and the person who lost a disadvantage, how is that no fair.


You don't understand what fair means.

It's fair but it's stupid. Saying that the person who lost the match starts with a 2-0 advantage in the extended series (instead of the winner) is also fair. But it's also stupid.


What? No, that's NOT fair. It's fair to give an advantage to the player who already beat the guy once, it's not fair to do the opposite.

If player A and player B meet in round 7, and player B loses, it's decidedly unfair to let player B get a clean slate in round 3 if they meet again.

The only problem with extended series is that it makes for terribad finals.


You don't understand what fair means. It's still fair.

I hate Extended Series and hope they get rid of it. Just tree.hugger based his post on semantics (the word "fair"), and none of you understand.

Trust me, my name has the word "fair" in it, I know what it means.


I wish my name had "facedesk" in it, because it's what I'm doing right now.


I understand what you said, and I agree that's why they should get rid of extended series. Because it's stupid.

But extended series is technically, as tree.hugger said, fair. Each player has an equal opportunity to be advantaged by the rule as disadvantaged. Unfair would be something like Idra starting with a 1-0 lead in every series, or if the bracket was configured in such a way that, prior to any games being played, certain individuals were more likely to start with an extended series lead than a deficit (which is not the case at all).

So, the rule is actually fair.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
July 22 2012 18:25 GMT
#1236
lazor, lazor everywhere
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Alvin853
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany149 Posts
July 22 2012 18:25 GMT
#1237
So if Oz wins this extended series, will they play another bo3 or will it be extended to bo11? this could take a while
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 22 2012 18:25 GMT
#1238
Daaaaaaamn Oz is on fire
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Simsallabin
Profile Joined June 2012
Nepal216 Posts
July 22 2012 18:25 GMT
#1239
On July 23 2012 03:24 Redox wrote:
Oh god I have to leave this thread right now, otherwise I am going crazy.

People claiming that extended series is fair make me want to rip my hair out. I just cant stand so much absence of logic.


Laters Mr.
Woop!
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
July 22 2012 18:26 GMT
#1240
PvP
mind game or coin flip
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