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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
July 22 2012 23:29 GMT
#3481
On July 23 2012 08:20 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 08:17 DazZle. wrote:
[image loading]
GORO TERRAN FIGHTINGGGG


Holy shit, that guys got 4 arms! The hell?


Nono, you only see the first 4, the other 29 are still on the keyboard.
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
July 22 2012 23:31 GMT
#3482
On July 23 2012 08:04 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 08:03 tree.hugger wrote:
On July 23 2012 08:01 Serinox wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:58 IshinShishi wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:50 Serinox wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:46 IshinShishi wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:44 SiCkO_ wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:41 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:40 Eufouria wrote:
What does Nazgul feed his players? Within a few months of him signing them they make massive improvements in their results.


They sign good players and give them the chance to play in foreign tournaments...Taeja always performed well.


Yes Taeja was good, but I also think that Nazgul has a great eye for talent. While HerO and Taeja were were somewhat known, they were not the Code S monsters they are currently


Congrats Taeja!!!

Taeja had a ro8 before joining Liquid, he was already a code S monster, but I think HerO definetely improved a lot.


No, he had not. He had two Ro32 finishes in Code S before joining Liquid. The seasons where he got Ro8 were completely played under Liquid flags.

Not really, he was already well enough in season 2 when he was signed, ro16 after beating JJ and DRG iirc.

He was signed 12 hours before the 2012 GSL Code S Season 2 Round of 32. So my fact still stands.

He was announced at that time. He was signed earlier.

That's even better for my point

How so?Signing a player doesn't mean that all the hard work someone else did ( be it the player himself or another team) is suddenly yours to brag about, he can be liquid on paper for season 2, but that's not how I see it.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
July 22 2012 23:31 GMT
#3483
On July 23 2012 07:55 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 07:49 Dosey wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:48 Die4Ever wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:47 yeint wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:46 Sakray wrote:
So a terran finally won, u guys happy now?


Yes I am.

no cause now Zerg is UP, top 4 was 3 Toss 1 Terran and ZERO ZERG WTF???

No DRG, no Symbol, and an underperforming Stephano

Stephano wasn't underperfomning, he showed he's the best foreigner outside of Korea and that Koreans is still better than any foreigner not practising with Korean standards.



cmon man don't you get it yet?!!

When Stephano wins, he's the greatest of all time, unstoppable and guaranteed Code S champ.

When he loses, he underperformed, he had a fever, he had a hangover and he didn't feel like winning....
Butterednuts
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
July 22 2012 23:32 GMT
#3484
Big shout outs and congrats to TaeJa!
Chameleons Cast No Shadows
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
July 22 2012 23:35 GMT
#3485
Congrats to Taeja!
We make signature, then defense it.
alexanderzero
Profile Joined June 2008
United States659 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-22 23:46:14
July 22 2012 23:44 GMT
#3486
Grats Taeja. Sick Terran play!

Also everyone is saying how Axslav couldn't have worn a suit because he needed to show his sponsors. That doesn't mean that he needed to wear a t-shirt and a hoodie. If MLG was footing the cost of bringing him to New York to provide analysis for 3 days, it shouldn't be an issue for them to provide him with a nice polo shirt that has all his sponsor logos on it.

The problem with his outfit is that it just looks like some super casual thing that anybody would wear. Those are the clothes that I sleep in. I don't even think that a lot of the viewers would realize the logos represented a sponsorship, they would probably just think he was wearing some team swag that he liked.

Imagine if he wore something more like this:

[image loading]

It would be readily obvious to anyone that he was flashing some sponsor logos and suddenly it's obvious why he isn't wearing a suit. Meanwhile, it's still professional as well.
I am a tournament organizazer.
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
July 22 2012 23:45 GMT
#3487
On July 23 2012 07:53 Reaps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 07:53 Ryps wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:49 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:44 SiCkO_ wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:41 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:40 Eufouria wrote:
What does Nazgul feed his players? Within a few months of him signing them they make massive improvements in their results.


They sign good players and give them the chance to play in foreign tournaments...Taeja always performed well.


Yes Taeja was good, but I also think that Nazgul has a great eye for talent. While HerO and Taeja were were somewhat known, they were not the Code S monsters they are currently


Congrats Taeja!!!


I mean, I'm not going to argue they don't do well under the teamliquid banner but they were always good players. Hero was recommended by oGs for a reason, and Taeja was always doing amazing in online Korean weeklys. And Hero isn't currently a Code S monster. Take Alicia for example...if TL signed him and then sent him to the same tournaments he's been to people would be like "wow, look at him taking these second places under TL after not doing anything for a year!"

If only the rest of Liquid would be as good as Hero / Taeja then we could say he has a great eye for talent. Picking Korean players will always be good imo


Hit the nail on the head ^^


eh...wtf? Picking Korean players does not guarantee championships. Look at all those other lesser known Koreans that got picked up by foreign teams. They haven't won much. Dragon, Golden, Inori (back at ReIGN), Rain, and so on.
Flossy
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States870 Posts
July 22 2012 23:51 GMT
#3488
Alicia's 3rd second... :/
etternaonline.com
DMKraft
Profile Joined December 2010
476 Posts
July 22 2012 23:52 GMT
#3489
On July 23 2012 08:06 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 08:02 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:59 xrapture wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:55 nihlon wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:49 Dosey wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:48 Die4Ever wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:47 yeint wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:46 Sakray wrote:
So a terran finally won, u guys happy now?


Yes I am.

no cause now Zerg is UP, top 4 was 3 Toss 1 Terran and ZERO ZERG WTF???

No DRG, no Symbol, and an underperforming Stephano

Stephano wasn't underperfomning, he showed he's the best foreigner outside of Korea and that Koreans is still better than any foreigner not practising with Korean standards.


Yea Stephano showed he's the best foreigner outside of Korea way more than Naniwa did by making it to the Ro8 GSL 2 times in a row.


/facepalm

On July 23 2012 07:57 Dosey wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:55 nihlon wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:49 Dosey wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:48 Die4Ever wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:47 yeint wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:46 Sakray wrote:
So a terran finally won, u guys happy now?


Yes I am.

no cause now Zerg is UP, top 4 was 3 Toss 1 Terran and ZERO ZERG WTF???

No DRG, no Symbol, and an underperforming Stephano

Stephano wasn't underperfomning, he showed he's the best foreigner outside of Korea and that Koreans is still better than any foreigner not practising with Korean standards.

Ahh... dat anti-stephano bias.


I love how calling Stephano the "best foreigner outside of Korea" constitutes anti-Stephano bias.

You can't argue with facts. But to say he wasn't underperforming when he made clear mistakes vs Oz that even code B zergs wouldn't make is rather silly. Oz played well, yes, but Stephano played poorly. Be it anti-steph bias or korean bias, it's still bias in one form or another.

Also, to say that after coming off a victory vs one of the best PvZers who is currently in the finals..........


This is no comment on anyone's skill ever, but what makes you think Stephano is a Code A/Code S zerg. He hasn't even been accepted into a GSL qualifier which makes him Code B or less.
alexanderzero
Profile Joined June 2008
United States659 Posts
July 22 2012 23:56 GMT
#3490
On July 23 2012 08:52 DMKraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 08:06 Dosey wrote:
On July 23 2012 08:02 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:59 xrapture wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:55 nihlon wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:49 Dosey wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:48 Die4Ever wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:47 yeint wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:46 Sakray wrote:
So a terran finally won, u guys happy now?


Yes I am.

no cause now Zerg is UP, top 4 was 3 Toss 1 Terran and ZERO ZERG WTF???

No DRG, no Symbol, and an underperforming Stephano

Stephano wasn't underperfomning, he showed he's the best foreigner outside of Korea and that Koreans is still better than any foreigner not practising with Korean standards.


Yea Stephano showed he's the best foreigner outside of Korea way more than Naniwa did by making it to the Ro8 GSL 2 times in a row.


/facepalm

On July 23 2012 07:57 Dosey wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:55 nihlon wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:49 Dosey wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:48 Die4Ever wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:47 yeint wrote:
On July 23 2012 07:46 Sakray wrote:
So a terran finally won, u guys happy now?


Yes I am.

no cause now Zerg is UP, top 4 was 3 Toss 1 Terran and ZERO ZERG WTF???

No DRG, no Symbol, and an underperforming Stephano

Stephano wasn't underperfomning, he showed he's the best foreigner outside of Korea and that Koreans is still better than any foreigner not practising with Korean standards.

Ahh... dat anti-stephano bias.


I love how calling Stephano the "best foreigner outside of Korea" constitutes anti-Stephano bias.

You can't argue with facts. But to say he wasn't underperforming when he made clear mistakes vs Oz that even code B zergs wouldn't make is rather silly. Oz played well, yes, but Stephano played poorly. Be it anti-steph bias or korean bias, it's still bias in one form or another.

Also, to say that after coming off a victory vs one of the best PvZers who is currently in the finals..........


This is no comment on anyone's skill ever, but what makes you think Stephano is a Code A/Code S zerg. He hasn't even been accepted into a GSL qualifier which makes him Code B or less.


Has Stephano ever attempted to qualify for the GSL? I know that he has said he isn't interested in playing in the individual league because he makes much more money in tournaments abroad. I think the fact that he wins so many global tournaments, and always gets deep at MLG is plenty good evidence by itself.
I am a tournament organizazer.
fer
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada375 Posts
July 22 2012 23:57 GMT
#3491
Well, it's pretty damn clear what foreigner teams have to do now to stay or become relevant. Buy a monster Korean, better if in Code S already, and fly him around under your banner. Can keep a few of the foreigners around to pretend to be a foreigner team (TL, EG) or can go full-Korean (FnaticRC, FXO). Basically the real story for me right now is how dominant SlayerS still is with Ryung, Puzzle, Alicia, Coca, and now ex-SlayerS Taeja doing very well recently.

Saw a tweet from Kennigit praising Victor (Nazgul) for his talent scouting abilities, but the real praise goes towards, of course, SlayerS Boxer.
WellPlayed.org <3
foen
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands111 Posts
July 22 2012 23:57 GMT
#3492
2012 Year of Liquid!
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
July 23 2012 00:01 GMT
#3493
Seems pretty obvious now that alicia has some real nerve problems. :/ Still capable of amazing things.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 00:04:12
July 23 2012 00:04 GMT
#3494
On July 23 2012 08:57 fer wrote:
Well, it's pretty damn clear what foreigner teams have to do now to stay or become relevant. Buy a monster Korean, better if in Code S already, and fly him around under your banner. Can keep a few of the foreigners around to pretend to be a foreigner team (TL, EG) or can go full-Korean (FnaticRC, FXO). Basically the real story for me right now is how dominant SlayerS still is with Ryung, Puzzle, Alicia, Coca, and now ex-SlayerS Taeja doing very well recently.

Saw a tweet from Kennigit praising Victor (Nazgul) for his talent scouting abilities, but the real praise goes towards, of course, SlayerS Boxer.

Ret did make NASL top 4, so mmmm
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
July 23 2012 00:05 GMT
#3495
On July 23 2012 08:57 fer wrote:
Well, it's pretty damn clear what foreigner teams have to do now to stay or become relevant. Buy a monster Korean, better if in Code S already, and fly him around under your banner. Can keep a few of the foreigners around to pretend to be a foreigner team (TL, EG) or can go full-Korean (FnaticRC, FXO). Basically the real story for me right now is how dominant SlayerS still is with Ryung, Puzzle, Alicia, Coca, and now ex-SlayerS Taeja doing very well recently.

Saw a tweet from Kennigit praising Victor (Nazgul) for his talent scouting abilities, but the real praise goes towards, of course, SlayerS Boxer.

Could also go win a Dreamhack like Thorzain
-FoX
Profile Joined November 2010
United States479 Posts
July 23 2012 00:08 GMT
#3496
Congratulations to TaeJa! A very well deserved win.
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
July 23 2012 00:09 GMT
#3497
On July 23 2012 08:57 fer wrote:
Well, it's pretty damn clear what foreigner teams have to do now to stay or become relevant. Buy a monster Korean, better if in Code S already, and fly him around under your banner. Can keep a few of the foreigners around to pretend to be a foreigner team (TL, EG) or can go full-Korean (FnaticRC, FXO). Basically the real story for me right now is how dominant SlayerS still is with Ryung, Puzzle, Alicia, Coca, and now ex-SlayerS Taeja doing very well recently.

Saw a tweet from Kennigit praising Victor (Nazgul) for his talent scouting abilities, but the real praise goes towards, of course, SlayerS Boxer.


Ret has placed high in almost every tournament he been to this year. There are many Koreans on foreign teams that have not performed that well. What's really damn clear is that people need to stop generalizing base on 1 player or 1 event.
power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
July 23 2012 00:12 GMT
#3498
Is it a trend nowadays that everytime when Stephano loses he is always "hungover/didn't care/no practice/etc.."

He played his usual abusive style and got completely outclassed.
publicenemies
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
458 Posts
July 23 2012 00:12 GMT
#3499
Now they're never gonna buff terran....
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
July 23 2012 00:16 GMT
#3500
On July 23 2012 09:12 power-overwhelming wrote:
Is it a trend nowadays that everytime when Stephano loses he is always "hungover/didn't care/no practice/etc.."

He played his usual abusive style and got completely outclassed.

Dunno about abusive style but I feel like oz took the time to study him.

splash > stephano
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