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On July 22 2012 10:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 10:44 Zane wrote:On July 22 2012 10:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:On July 22 2012 10:42 SarcasmMonster wrote:Remember when Byun race switched a long long time ago in a galaxy far away from  to  because " is OP" (his words). What a cool guy. First player to qualify for GSL as 2 races  Gumiho qualified with all 3 races...at the same time. But it was Code A I think. haha true it might have actually been one of the open seasons. I dont think GPig ever qualified as random when he played random but I know he at least qualified once as protoss and maybe as terran. I think Gumiho is still the only random player ever
Yeah, I just checked. It was Open Season 3.
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On July 22 2012 10:41 Fig wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 10:38 sAsImre wrote:On July 22 2012 10:36 Fig wrote:On July 22 2012 10:32 chambertin wrote:On July 22 2012 10:31 Fig wrote:On July 22 2012 10:29 Whatson wrote:On July 22 2012 10:29 Fig wrote:
use your 4000 gas....... Then maybe you would have an army Mass ravens/BCs takes a lot of time Time that Taeja doesn't have. he had plenty of time when losira was building up his own expensive army. And Taeja's air army would have beaten zerg even without a blunder by Losira. He definitely, def., def. didnt have enough time to get out Raven/BC, jesus with air ups and the raven ups that shit takes forever... Well it's all how you play the other part of the game. Seems like Taeja likes getting early gasses right? He also likes killing creep tumors right? Well instead of using a ton a scans to clear them, use mules to get more minerals and use your gas to get a raven! Not like he doesn't have starport with tech lab. He even made banshees early on. Just get a raven, and then you can get a second raven, and a third. And since they take so long, they won't really eat into any of your resources, except your huge gas bank. That's how you do it early enough are you serious? You know that upgrades/tanks/medivacs require gas and that you only have 6 gas as T in mid game. And you know what happen to a T who pushes on creep? btw Taeja did so well on that side that he didn't even scan. I hop, sincerely hope it's a troll... Well I don't know what you consider a troll. I am theory crafting, but that's just because I can't pull something like that off myself. You did see that Taeja had 4000 gas at the end of the game right? And even from midgame on he had at least 500 at all times
OK i'll just do a brief summary of what Taeja did:
A quick 3rd CC with hellion/banshee and double ebay aiming at a pre-hive 200/200 with 2/2 timing
In order to push you need to clean the creep, so you might scan. You just cannot push on creep. Ever.
Then you try to max out asap, and you dedicate ALL your infrastructure to build your army asap, so you get 1port with a reactor, 2fac and 6/7raxes. That's the best set up atm, and if you aim to these kind of pushes you cannot afford something else. If Taeja floated some gas it was under 500.
In order to get your sky terran going you need 2/3k gas to begin with and throw down 5/6 ports. The problem here is that Taeja failed his pre-hive push and had to build vikings asap to survive to the blord push. There was no timing to get the infrastructure needed because he had to produce vikings from those starports.
Then Losira switched and since T's production is slow you can't really say, hey, i'm switching into sky terran now, wait 5minutes mate.
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On July 22 2012 10:43 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 10:35 Mackus wrote:I want Losira to win simply because I don't want MLG to conflict with Korean WCS starting in 25 mins  this isn't on the TL calendar???
Dunno but the Live report thread is up and GOMtv saying next broadcast is in 15 minutes so it definitely is.
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On July 22 2012 10:44 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 10:43 Die4Ever wrote:On July 22 2012 10:35 Mackus wrote:I want Losira to win simply because I don't want MLG to conflict with Korean WCS starting in 25 mins this isn't on the TL calendar??? Upcoming events: [ More ] 17m WCS Korea Prelims D11h 17m [PL] STX-CJ, 8th-K… 3h 47m Space Whales Show… 5h 17m TGS Final - Glade… 7h 17m [WCS] Ru
MLG...
fucking WCS (MMA vs SOulKey)...
then PL...
THe gods of SC just hate people sleeping this weekend T_T
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Losira revolutionizing ZvT... with Mass Banelings!
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On July 22 2012 10:43 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 10:41 DOUDOU wrote:On July 22 2012 10:40 Shiori wrote:
I've definitely heard people say Stephano is significantly better than DRG on more than one occasion. and exactly for how long have you been hearing voices in your head? Lol there was plenty of talk about it when MC 3-0'd DRG. People were employing the bullshit transitive property (Stephano > MC, MC > DRG, therefore Stephano > DRG) to try to justify themselves.
Since drg also lost against Hero recently, I think you can argue that stephano is the better player in zvp at least.
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Holy god Day 9 is the master of exaggeration
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On July 22 2012 10:45 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 10:43 Fig wrote:On July 22 2012 10:40 Whatson wrote:On July 22 2012 10:38 Fig wrote:On July 22 2012 10:34 Noocta wrote:On July 22 2012 10:32 chambertin wrote:On July 22 2012 10:31 Fig wrote:On July 22 2012 10:29 Whatson wrote:On July 22 2012 10:29 Fig wrote:
use your 4000 gas....... Then maybe you would have an army Mass ravens/BCs takes a lot of time Time that Taeja doesn't have. he had plenty of time when losira was building up his own expensive army. And Taeja's air army would have beaten zerg even without a blunder by Losira. He definitely, def., def. didnt have enough time to get out Raven/BC, jesus with air ups and the raven ups that shit takes forever... It take as much time for a Raven to get enough energy to use a HSM than for a Mothership to use a Vortex. And that's WITH energy upgrade. TaeJa didn't have the techlab starport, nor the air upgrades.. It take forever to make this transition sadly. Game was close tho, TaeJa could have won by playing a bit better. This is simply not true. Taeja did have techlab starport, he was making banshees early game! Somebody doesn't play Terran. It takes freakin forever to build ravens, even more time for HSM. How would you like to have 20 supply tied up in units that require so much freaking time to become effective for ONE shot. It's true I don't play terran, but you can't say that having a raven would have been detrimental to him while clearing creep. I was pointing out a way to start using gas Once again, having supply tied up in early/mid game cost-ineffective units is not exactly a good for your theory-crafting
So you're saying that you would rather spend 300 minerals (6 marines) on a scan every minute rather than pay 100/200 once? I think your way is less cost effective
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On July 22 2012 10:47 HaXXspetten wrote:
Losira revolutionizing ZvT... with Mass Banelings!
Step 1 - Make 50 banelings
Step 2 - suicide 25 muta
Step 3 - Make 150 banelings
:D
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I'm sure it happens that someone says that DRG is bad. Just as it has happened in this thread tonight multiple times that it has been said that stephano is overrated, that his opponents are playing terrible when he's winning etc etc. Isn't it a bit hypocritical to blame stephanos fans for overdoing his accomplishments when this argument pretty much boils down to wanting people to 'realize' just how much better DRG is than Stephano?
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Losira will be fine after that flub of dead mutas.
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If Losira had Taeja´s micro he would win code s.
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On July 22 2012 10:38 revel8 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 10:26 Seiferz wrote:On July 22 2012 10:23 m0ck wrote:On July 22 2012 10:21 mordk wrote:On July 22 2012 10:18 Moka wrote:On July 22 2012 10:14 captainshards wrote:
I find the bias towards Stephano by both TL and casters/organizations to be extremely annoying and depressing.
I wait for the day he drops off. So we can't have emotions, ok Personally I find the caster bias ridiculous, annoying, and game-ruining. Fanboys are extremely annoying too and they tend to wreck LR threads, which is why I always root for whoever plays vs Stephano. Emotions are fine I go crazy myself when MC wins, but this whole "Stephano moves a ling -> best player in the world" "Stephano would rip off DRG's limbs in a single move" and stuff is just overboard and annoying. Can't do anything about it though, too bad Yes, yes, when you do it, it's great, when other people do it, it's the worst. Maybe just get over yourself. I agree. I can't understand these people who complain about "bias". I imagine that every time Stephano does something well, they cringe or something like that. It's a game and a cast, just take it for what it is. Haters cannot stand players getting praised. It adds to their bitterness. They want a haters commentary where players get constantly bashed every time they do something.
no we didn't like Moletrap either, I just don't want super biased casting, that's all
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On July 22 2012 10:47 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 10:47 HaXXspetten wrote:
Losira revolutionizing ZvT... with Mass Banelings! Step 1 - Make 50 banelings Step 2 - suicide 25 muta Step 3 - Make 150 banelings :D
Step 4: Win with ease.
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LosirA is actually making MLB strat viable in today's metagame.
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Oh god... Taeja be careful...
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wow taeja maphacks vs banemines :o
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On July 22 2012 10:47 HaXXspetten wrote:
Losira revolutionizing ZvT... with Mass Banelings!
Works when your opponent has 3 tanks at a time. 
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On July 22 2012 10:48 MuseMike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 10:47 SafeAsCheese wrote:On July 22 2012 10:47 HaXXspetten wrote:
Losira revolutionizing ZvT... with Mass Banelings! Step 1 - Make 50 banelings Step 2 - suicide 25 muta Step 3 - Make 150 banelings :D Step 4: Win with ease.
Step 5 Realize you're Hyun and lose it instead.
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