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Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
July 14 2012 23:16 GMT
#6061
On July 15 2012 08:14 Dagobert wrote:
Why isn't it MC vs Puma and Stephano vs Hero?

Is the OP simply not up-to-date?


Those games were already played oO
I've got moves like Jagger
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
July 14 2012 23:16 GMT
#6062
On July 15 2012 08:14 McBengt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 08:10 HaXXspetten wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:08 aRyuujin wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:07 JJH777 wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:06 SeaSwift wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:06 JJH777 wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:05 Poisonblack wrote:
no practice for 2 weeks



still wins against best PvZ player


MC isn't the best PvZ player.


Yes he is.


Seed and Squirtle are both better.


neither of them are better lol

I'd say all three of them are quite even at it right now


MC has more diversity than either Seed or Squirtle, that is what puts him one step above in my book. He just has the most complete repertoire of builds in PvZ, with at least comparable mechanics.


Seed has more diversity than any other Protoss... He is the only one that gateway expands a significant amount. Just a few weeks ago he showcased a completely new build where he got a quick 3-base and maxed out on pure Stalker.
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
July 14 2012 23:16 GMT
#6063
Why so much Protoss rage over one game?

Just enjoy the series... jeez.
I love crazymoving
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 14 2012 23:16 GMT
#6064
On July 15 2012 08:15 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 08:14 Drazerk wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:13 HaXXspetten wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:11 Drazerk wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:09 MCDayC wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:09 Drazerk wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:07 MCDayC wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:06 Drazerk wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:05 Asha` wrote:
Another boring game.

Come on, make it worth staying up for.


Its Stephano unless MC does something insane they tend to be run of the mill boring games

Come on that massive ling remax was cool to watch..


My 3v3 tactic for a year was to max out with 255 lings so mass ling has really lost its effect on how special it is ( And yes all the gas was used on overseers for mass contaminate )

There are tactics in 3v3? 0.o mind blown.


3v3 is probably the only good team game because of this

3v3 actually do have tactics unlike certain other team leagues...

however never listen to Draz for team league advice, he just leaves the game after being attacked by a single reaper


They hurt my starport which was building a raven

ehh yeah, I actually used it after you quit on us -.-


You know you could of just flown a barracks into the corner and they would have lost
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 23:17:28
July 14 2012 23:16 GMT
#6065
On July 15 2012 08:14 Domus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 08:11 freerolll wrote:

im not saying its not true but its that same old story oh I didnt practice for 2 weeks im so good from stephano.
MC stuff we can realy Prove happened in 1 week time germany 3rd homestory cup then going to Ro4 in the GSL and is now in the Ro4 in Nasl...........


Yes I am an MC fanboy!


Well, why would he need to practice? Stephano has only two builds...well actually one with a small deviation (either roach all-in, or roach, then continue into the standard infestor/BL)...And he has it perfected. He never needs to deviate from it, so what is the point of practicing it further?

I don't understand this legend, Stephano just crushes every toss who does not 2 base allin, he adapts very very well to any unorthodox build. He got his 3rd denied by hero but won the game, how do you explain that?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
FloKi
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1490 Posts
July 14 2012 23:16 GMT
#6066
On July 15 2012 08:15 Wrath 2.1 wrote:
Stephano is the Ronaldo of starcraft

Not even close.
Just..Just dont..
Where do whores go?
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
July 14 2012 23:16 GMT
#6067
On July 15 2012 08:14 GiftPflanZe wrote:
eh?after stephano lost the fight on his fourth I went afk for abit.how the fuck did he won?


He didn't really lose the fight because he made 114 zerglings around the time the hatchery was destroyed and they nibbled the stalkers to pieces.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
GiftPflanZe
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Germany623 Posts
July 14 2012 23:16 GMT
#6068
On July 15 2012 08:15 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 08:14 GiftPflanZe wrote:
eh?after stephano lost the fight on his fourth I went afk for abit.how the fuck did he won?

He traded his entire army to kill the sentries and colossi, then made 114 cracklings while morphing 10 broods.

Turns out stalker/immo doesn't do so good against that.

Oh,sad I missed that,sounds cool haha.
...
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 23:17:40
July 14 2012 23:17 GMT
#6069
On July 15 2012 08:14 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 08:12 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:08 Zacsafus wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:06 Azarkon wrote:
For a moment there I thought Stephano had lost when he had banked 4k minerals and 2k gas while being stuck on roach ling + corrupters, but he made the perfect remax after taking out those colossi and the macro hatch solved his larvae problem. Flawless play.


Perfect remax is 144 lings? im pretty sure just any remax of antyhing but drones or corruptors would have won him that, calling it perfect is kinda silly considering it was just 144 lings cz he could make anything else


No it is actually really smart, he focus down everything in MC army that is well equipped to kill zerglings and then remax on zerglings. There was still plenty of immortals and stalkers left after that fight, had he remaxed on roach it would have been way less cost effective.


Yeah, had he maxed on roaches he had a decent shot at losing that game. 20 stalkers + 4 immortals crush roaches - it's not funny how hard they do it. Plus they require gas -> less broods.

It's not just about stopping MC's army. He had to have enough of an army to make a counter to win that game. That's what he managed to do with lings + broods.



The point is that he had 60+ larva saved up on FOUR HATCH, the max you can have is only 19/hatch. He kept up his injection in the middle of the engagement.

Think about that, he doesn't miss a beat.
Waywatcher
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands205 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 23:18:54
July 14 2012 23:17 GMT
#6070


im not saying its not true but its that same old story oh I didnt practice for 2 weeks im so good from stephano.
MC stuff we can realy Prove happened in 1 week time germany 3rd homestory cup then going to Ro4 in the GSL and is now in the Ro4 in Nasl...........


Yes I am an MC fanboy!



I am saying it is not true. I checked his game history on his 3 accounts, atleast 50 games outside of the TSL qualifiers were played this week (might be more because i only could see the last 25 he played on each). He deffenitly didnt practiced a lot, a lot of it were custom games (like spectator mode etc) but he did practiced on 8th till the 11th (as i said atleast 50 games, maybe more but not a whole lot more)
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
July 14 2012 23:17 GMT
#6071
I like how some people genuinely believe that stephano doesn't practice his butt off, like he did in his war3 days.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Kpaxlol
Profile Joined April 2010
813 Posts
July 14 2012 23:17 GMT
#6072
On July 15 2012 08:15 Zebb wrote:
First post in this thread says bo5, liquipedia says bo7?


Semi-finals are Bo7
<3 bw
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
July 14 2012 23:17 GMT
#6073
On July 15 2012 08:16 AgentChaos wrote:
mc choking?


Just because he lost to one of the best zergs on the planet?
I've got moves like Jagger
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
July 14 2012 23:17 GMT
#6074
"quick shoutout to everybody"
lol
can i get my estro logo back pls
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
July 14 2012 23:17 GMT
#6075
uber fast third.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 14 2012 23:18 GMT
#6076
On July 15 2012 08:17 Mioraka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 08:14 Azarkon wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:12 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:08 Zacsafus wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:06 Azarkon wrote:
For a moment there I thought Stephano had lost when he had banked 4k minerals and 2k gas while being stuck on roach ling + corrupters, but he made the perfect remax after taking out those colossi and the macro hatch solved his larvae problem. Flawless play.


Perfect remax is 144 lings? im pretty sure just any remax of antyhing but drones or corruptors would have won him that, calling it perfect is kinda silly considering it was just 144 lings cz he could make anything else


No it is actually really smart, he focus down everything in MC army that is well equipped to kill zerglings and then remax on zerglings. There was still plenty of immortals and stalkers left after that fight, had he remaxed on roach it would have been way less cost effective.


Yeah, had he maxed on roaches he had a decent shot at losing that game. 20 stalkers + 4 immortals crush roaches - it's not funny how hard they do it. Plus they require gas -> less broods.

It's not just about stopping MC's army. He had to have enough of an army to make a counter to win that game. That's what he managed to do with lings + broods.



The point is that he had 60+ larva saved up on FOUR HATCH, he kept up his injection in the middle of the engagement.

Think about that, he doesn't miss a beat.


He had been stuck on 200/200 for ages and was floating over 5k minerals and 2k gas it was basically bad macro saving him
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
July 14 2012 23:18 GMT
#6077
On July 15 2012 08:16 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 08:14 McBengt wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:10 HaXXspetten wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:08 aRyuujin wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:07 JJH777 wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:06 SeaSwift wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:06 JJH777 wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:05 Poisonblack wrote:
no practice for 2 weeks



still wins against best PvZ player


MC isn't the best PvZ player.


Yes he is.


Seed and Squirtle are both better.


neither of them are better lol

I'd say all three of them are quite even at it right now


MC has more diversity than either Seed or Squirtle, that is what puts him one step above in my book. He just has the most complete repertoire of builds in PvZ, with at least comparable mechanics.


Seed has more diversity than any other Protoss... He is the only one that gateway expands a significant amount. Just a few weeks ago he showcased a completely new build where he got a quick 3-base and maxed out on pure Stalker.


Seed looked good against Symbol because Symbol went for Roach/Hydra/Corruptor and is nowhere near the level of Stephano or DRG in PvZ. Seed has only otherwise played Violet and Curious (LOL) this season. Not enough to compare him to the likes of MC.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
July 14 2012 23:18 GMT
#6078
On July 15 2012 08:17 Bashion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 08:16 AgentChaos wrote:
mc choking?


Just because he lost to one of the best zergs on the planet?


MC chokes unless he wins all games, at least on the internet!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
July 14 2012 23:18 GMT
#6079
On July 15 2012 08:17 IshinShishi wrote:
I like how some people genuinely believe that stephano doesn't practice his butt off, like he did in his war3 days.

how was he in wc3?
can i get my estro logo back pls
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
July 14 2012 23:18 GMT
#6080
On July 15 2012 08:18 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 08:17 Mioraka wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:14 Azarkon wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:12 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:08 Zacsafus wrote:
On July 15 2012 08:06 Azarkon wrote:
For a moment there I thought Stephano had lost when he had banked 4k minerals and 2k gas while being stuck on roach ling + corrupters, but he made the perfect remax after taking out those colossi and the macro hatch solved his larvae problem. Flawless play.


Perfect remax is 144 lings? im pretty sure just any remax of antyhing but drones or corruptors would have won him that, calling it perfect is kinda silly considering it was just 144 lings cz he could make anything else


No it is actually really smart, he focus down everything in MC army that is well equipped to kill zerglings and then remax on zerglings. There was still plenty of immortals and stalkers left after that fight, had he remaxed on roach it would have been way less cost effective.


Yeah, had he maxed on roaches he had a decent shot at losing that game. 20 stalkers + 4 immortals crush roaches - it's not funny how hard they do it. Plus they require gas -> less broods.

It's not just about stopping MC's army. He had to have enough of an army to make a counter to win that game. That's what he managed to do with lings + broods.



The point is that he had 60+ larva saved up on FOUR HATCH, he kept up his injection in the middle of the engagement.

Think about that, he doesn't miss a beat.


He had been stuck on 200/200 for ages and was floating over 5k minerals and 2k gas it was basically bad macro saving him

I don't think you can call banking money/larvae when 'stuck on 200/200 for ages' bad macro. What else are you gonna do? :p
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