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On July 18 2012 22:28 TBO wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 22:25 NHY wrote:On July 18 2012 22:16 garbanzo wrote:On July 18 2012 22:14 ESLSEA wrote:
As stated above, it was clearly explained to the players and the casters it was a Bo5 before the match even started.. That doesn't really answer the question of why it's different than the other qualifier. Was it explained to the players why the rules were suddenly changed in the middle of the qualifier series? Edit: By the way, rules exist to resolve confusion. The rules were there beforehand. You guys got confused. The solution is not to change the rules to cover your confused asses, but to stick to the rules. They didn't "change" the rule. They had an incorrect information on their website. Big difference. If they changed it to Bo3, that would be changing the rule to cover their ass. Uhm where were the correct rules stated? If they were not available for the players anywhere before the tournament, it's silly to say that they didn't changed them. Should players just "guess" that it is bo5?
They were told that it was Bo5.
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On July 18 2012 22:39 NHY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 22:28 TBO wrote:On July 18 2012 22:25 NHY wrote:On July 18 2012 22:16 garbanzo wrote:On July 18 2012 22:14 ESLSEA wrote:
As stated above, it was clearly explained to the players and the casters it was a Bo5 before the match even started.. That doesn't really answer the question of why it's different than the other qualifier. Was it explained to the players why the rules were suddenly changed in the middle of the qualifier series? Edit: By the way, rules exist to resolve confusion. The rules were there beforehand. You guys got confused. The solution is not to change the rules to cover your confused asses, but to stick to the rules. They didn't "change" the rule. They had an incorrect information on their website. Big difference. If they changed it to Bo3, that would be changing the rule to cover their ass. Uhm where were the correct rules stated? If they were not available for the players anywhere before the tournament, it's silly to say that they didn't changed them. Should players just "guess" that it is bo5? They were told that it was Bo5.
uhm so the rules were changed DURING the tournament? that is not acceptable. ( or did they tell everyone that the final is going to be Bo5 before the 1st round was played)?
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On July 18 2012 22:30 garbanzo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 22:25 NHY wrote:On July 18 2012 22:16 garbanzo wrote:On July 18 2012 22:14 ESLSEA wrote:
As stated above, it was clearly explained to the players and the casters it was a Bo5 before the match even started.. That doesn't really answer the question of why it's different than the other qualifier. Was it explained to the players why the rules were suddenly changed in the middle of the qualifier series? Edit: By the way, rules exist to resolve confusion. The rules were there beforehand. You guys got confused. The solution is not to change the rules to cover your confused asses, but to stick to the rules. They didn't "change" the rule. They had an incorrect information on their website. Big difference. If they changed it to Bo3, that would be changing the rule to cover their ass. As far as I'm concerned, the written rules are the rules. Doesn't matter if that's not what they meant to put on there; players can't read minds. Doesn't matter what an admin says; the admin doesn't talk to every player. However, the information written on the website is available to everyone. If I were a player and I wanted to know the rules that's where I would go. So if they fucked up that information and it wasn't what they intended then, tough shit, they should stick with those written rules and "fix" it next time with a proper announcement.
You didn't know the rule then, tough shit, doesn't mean it gets changed for you.
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Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
Oh Carmac you have some more stuff to clean up now >.< So sad that Admins messed it up, not the caster nor the players but a tournament admin, eurgh!
Sorry for TLO too who played well and unkown to him had gone through eek.
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On July 18 2012 22:40 NHY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 22:30 garbanzo wrote:On July 18 2012 22:25 NHY wrote:On July 18 2012 22:16 garbanzo wrote:On July 18 2012 22:14 ESLSEA wrote:
As stated above, it was clearly explained to the players and the casters it was a Bo5 before the match even started.. That doesn't really answer the question of why it's different than the other qualifier. Was it explained to the players why the rules were suddenly changed in the middle of the qualifier series? Edit: By the way, rules exist to resolve confusion. The rules were there beforehand. You guys got confused. The solution is not to change the rules to cover your confused asses, but to stick to the rules. They didn't "change" the rule. They had an incorrect information on their website. Big difference. If they changed it to Bo3, that would be changing the rule to cover their ass. As far as I'm concerned, the written rules are the rules. Doesn't matter if that's not what they meant to put on there; players can't read minds. Doesn't matter what an admin says; the admin doesn't talk to every player. However, the information written on the website is available to everyone. If I were a player and I wanted to know the rules that's where I would go. So if they fucked up that information and it wasn't what they intended then, tough shit, they should stick with those written rules and "fix" it next time with a proper announcement. You didn't know the rule then, tough shit, doesn't mean it gets changed for you.
problem is no that he didn't knew the rule , problem is that the rule said Bo3 beforehand the tournament...
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DON'T make any drama out of that, downvote all the reddit threads if you can. today was a good day don't want it to be clouded by that! 
We should listen to TLO 
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On July 18 2012 22:39 TBO wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 22:39 NHY wrote:On July 18 2012 22:28 TBO wrote:On July 18 2012 22:25 NHY wrote:On July 18 2012 22:16 garbanzo wrote:On July 18 2012 22:14 ESLSEA wrote:
As stated above, it was clearly explained to the players and the casters it was a Bo5 before the match even started.. That doesn't really answer the question of why it's different than the other qualifier. Was it explained to the players why the rules were suddenly changed in the middle of the qualifier series? Edit: By the way, rules exist to resolve confusion. The rules were there beforehand. You guys got confused. The solution is not to change the rules to cover your confused asses, but to stick to the rules. They didn't "change" the rule. They had an incorrect information on their website. Big difference. If they changed it to Bo3, that would be changing the rule to cover their ass. Uhm where were the correct rules stated? If they were not available for the players anywhere before the tournament, it's silly to say that they didn't changed them. Should players just "guess" that it is bo5? They were told that it was Bo5. uhm so the rules were changed DURING the tournament? that is not acceptable. ( or did they tell everyone that the final is going to be Bo5 before the 1st round was played)?
Look at the very first quote above.
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On July 18 2012 22:14 ESLSEA wrote:
As stated above, it was clearly explained to the players and the casters it was a Bo5 before the match even started..
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On July 18 2012 22:41 NHY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 22:39 TBO wrote:On July 18 2012 22:39 NHY wrote:On July 18 2012 22:28 TBO wrote:On July 18 2012 22:25 NHY wrote:On July 18 2012 22:16 garbanzo wrote:On July 18 2012 22:14 ESLSEA wrote:
As stated above, it was clearly explained to the players and the casters it was a Bo5 before the match even started.. That doesn't really answer the question of why it's different than the other qualifier. Was it explained to the players why the rules were suddenly changed in the middle of the qualifier series? Edit: By the way, rules exist to resolve confusion. The rules were there beforehand. You guys got confused. The solution is not to change the rules to cover your confused asses, but to stick to the rules. They didn't "change" the rule. They had an incorrect information on their website. Big difference. If they changed it to Bo3, that would be changing the rule to cover their ass. Uhm where were the correct rules stated? If they were not available for the players anywhere before the tournament, it's silly to say that they didn't changed them. Should players just "guess" that it is bo5? They were told that it was Bo5. uhm so the rules were changed DURING the tournament? that is not acceptable. ( or did they tell everyone that the final is going to be Bo5 before the 1st round was played)? Look at the very first quote above.
it says "before the match" not "before the tournament"
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On July 18 2012 22:40 NHY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 22:30 garbanzo wrote:On July 18 2012 22:25 NHY wrote:On July 18 2012 22:16 garbanzo wrote:On July 18 2012 22:14 ESLSEA wrote:
As stated above, it was clearly explained to the players and the casters it was a Bo5 before the match even started.. That doesn't really answer the question of why it's different than the other qualifier. Was it explained to the players why the rules were suddenly changed in the middle of the qualifier series? Edit: By the way, rules exist to resolve confusion. The rules were there beforehand. You guys got confused. The solution is not to change the rules to cover your confused asses, but to stick to the rules. They didn't "change" the rule. They had an incorrect information on their website. Big difference. If they changed it to Bo3, that would be changing the rule to cover their ass. As far as I'm concerned, the written rules are the rules. Doesn't matter if that's not what they meant to put on there; players can't read minds. Doesn't matter what an admin says; the admin doesn't talk to every player. However, the information written on the website is available to everyone. If I were a player and I wanted to know the rules that's where I would go. So if they fucked up that information and it wasn't what they intended then, tough shit, they should stick with those written rules and "fix" it next time with a proper announcement. You didn't know the rule then, tough shit, doesn't mean it gets changed for you.
I did know the rule. The rule written down was that all games are Bo3.
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On July 18 2012 22:42 garbanzo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 22:40 NHY wrote:On July 18 2012 22:30 garbanzo wrote:On July 18 2012 22:25 NHY wrote:On July 18 2012 22:16 garbanzo wrote:On July 18 2012 22:14 ESLSEA wrote:
As stated above, it was clearly explained to the players and the casters it was a Bo5 before the match even started.. That doesn't really answer the question of why it's different than the other qualifier. Was it explained to the players why the rules were suddenly changed in the middle of the qualifier series? Edit: By the way, rules exist to resolve confusion. The rules were there beforehand. You guys got confused. The solution is not to change the rules to cover your confused asses, but to stick to the rules. They didn't "change" the rule. They had an incorrect information on their website. Big difference. If they changed it to Bo3, that would be changing the rule to cover their ass. As far as I'm concerned, the written rules are the rules. Doesn't matter if that's not what they meant to put on there; players can't read minds. Doesn't matter what an admin says; the admin doesn't talk to every player. However, the information written on the website is available to everyone. If I were a player and I wanted to know the rules that's where I would go. So if they fucked up that information and it wasn't what they intended then, tough shit, they should stick with those written rules and "fix" it next time with a proper announcement. You didn't know the rule then, tough shit, doesn't mean it gets changed for you. I did know the rule. The rule written down was that all games are Bo3.
Apparently not.
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On July 18 2012 22:43 NHY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 22:42 garbanzo wrote:On July 18 2012 22:40 NHY wrote:On July 18 2012 22:30 garbanzo wrote:On July 18 2012 22:25 NHY wrote:On July 18 2012 22:16 garbanzo wrote:On July 18 2012 22:14 ESLSEA wrote:
As stated above, it was clearly explained to the players and the casters it was a Bo5 before the match even started.. That doesn't really answer the question of why it's different than the other qualifier. Was it explained to the players why the rules were suddenly changed in the middle of the qualifier series? Edit: By the way, rules exist to resolve confusion. The rules were there beforehand. You guys got confused. The solution is not to change the rules to cover your confused asses, but to stick to the rules. They didn't "change" the rule. They had an incorrect information on their website. Big difference. If they changed it to Bo3, that would be changing the rule to cover their ass. As far as I'm concerned, the written rules are the rules. Doesn't matter if that's not what they meant to put on there; players can't read minds. Doesn't matter what an admin says; the admin doesn't talk to every player. However, the information written on the website is available to everyone. If I were a player and I wanted to know the rules that's where I would go. So if they fucked up that information and it wasn't what they intended then, tough shit, they should stick with those written rules and "fix" it next time with a proper announcement. You didn't know the rule then, tough shit, doesn't mean it gets changed for you. I did know the rule. The rule written down was that all games are Bo3. Apparently not.
And you don't think it's an issue that what they wrote down as the rules were not the "real" rules?
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Poor TLO. So close. 
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Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
On July 18 2012 22:43 NHY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 22:42 garbanzo wrote:On July 18 2012 22:40 NHY wrote:On July 18 2012 22:30 garbanzo wrote:On July 18 2012 22:25 NHY wrote:On July 18 2012 22:16 garbanzo wrote:On July 18 2012 22:14 ESLSEA wrote:
As stated above, it was clearly explained to the players and the casters it was a Bo5 before the match even started.. That doesn't really answer the question of why it's different than the other qualifier. Was it explained to the players why the rules were suddenly changed in the middle of the qualifier series? Edit: By the way, rules exist to resolve confusion. The rules were there beforehand. You guys got confused. The solution is not to change the rules to cover your confused asses, but to stick to the rules. They didn't "change" the rule. They had an incorrect information on their website. Big difference. If they changed it to Bo3, that would be changing the rule to cover their ass. As far as I'm concerned, the written rules are the rules. Doesn't matter if that's not what they meant to put on there; players can't read minds. Doesn't matter what an admin says; the admin doesn't talk to every player. However, the information written on the website is available to everyone. If I were a player and I wanted to know the rules that's where I would go. So if they fucked up that information and it wasn't what they intended then, tough shit, they should stick with those written rules and "fix" it next time with a proper announcement. You didn't know the rule then, tough shit, doesn't mean it gets changed for you. I did know the rule. The rule written down was that all games are Bo3. Apparently not.
So your telling me the Korean qualifier finals should ALL be best of 5? Yet the American/EU qualifiers should not? And it was "wrote down on the website wrong"
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On July 18 2012 22:23 ESLSEA wrote:
The finals were always intended to be Bo5. Last qualifier Bo3 happened due to a miscommunication and was not changed since both players started the game being told it was Bo3, upgrading it to Bo5 afterwards does not make it better, just worst.
This doesn't make a lot of sense to me. They were told it was Bo3 but it was intended to be Bo5?
There was already miscommunication in the last finals about the amount of games and you don't consider to fix the rules after that?
So you are basically telling us you did mistakes in 2/2 qualifiers. in the first not following the intended rules and in the 2nd one not following the actual rules.
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On July 18 2012 22:42 TBO wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 22:41 NHY wrote:On July 18 2012 22:39 TBO wrote:On July 18 2012 22:39 NHY wrote:On July 18 2012 22:28 TBO wrote:On July 18 2012 22:25 NHY wrote:On July 18 2012 22:16 garbanzo wrote:On July 18 2012 22:14 ESLSEA wrote:
As stated above, it was clearly explained to the players and the casters it was a Bo5 before the match even started.. That doesn't really answer the question of why it's different than the other qualifier. Was it explained to the players why the rules were suddenly changed in the middle of the qualifier series? Edit: By the way, rules exist to resolve confusion. The rules were there beforehand. You guys got confused. The solution is not to change the rules to cover your confused asses, but to stick to the rules. They didn't "change" the rule. They had an incorrect information on their website. Big difference. If they changed it to Bo3, that would be changing the rule to cover their ass. Uhm where were the correct rules stated? If they were not available for the players anywhere before the tournament, it's silly to say that they didn't changed them. Should players just "guess" that it is bo5? They were told that it was Bo5. uhm so the rules were changed DURING the tournament? that is not acceptable. ( or did they tell everyone that the final is going to be Bo5 before the 1st round was played)? Look at the very first quote above. it says "before the match" not "before the tournament"
Oh I see. Well then you can ask them since I have no clue.
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On July 18 2012 22:44 garbanzo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 22:43 NHY wrote:On July 18 2012 22:42 garbanzo wrote:On July 18 2012 22:40 NHY wrote:On July 18 2012 22:30 garbanzo wrote:On July 18 2012 22:25 NHY wrote:On July 18 2012 22:16 garbanzo wrote:On July 18 2012 22:14 ESLSEA wrote:
As stated above, it was clearly explained to the players and the casters it was a Bo5 before the match even started.. That doesn't really answer the question of why it's different than the other qualifier. Was it explained to the players why the rules were suddenly changed in the middle of the qualifier series? Edit: By the way, rules exist to resolve confusion. The rules were there beforehand. You guys got confused. The solution is not to change the rules to cover your confused asses, but to stick to the rules. They didn't "change" the rule. They had an incorrect information on their website. Big difference. If they changed it to Bo3, that would be changing the rule to cover their ass. As far as I'm concerned, the written rules are the rules. Doesn't matter if that's not what they meant to put on there; players can't read minds. Doesn't matter what an admin says; the admin doesn't talk to every player. However, the information written on the website is available to everyone. If I were a player and I wanted to know the rules that's where I would go. So if they fucked up that information and it wasn't what they intended then, tough shit, they should stick with those written rules and "fix" it next time with a proper announcement. You didn't know the rule then, tough shit, doesn't mean it gets changed for you. I did know the rule. The rule written down was that all games are Bo3. Apparently not. And you don't think it's an issue that what they wrote down as the rules were not the "real" rules?
It is a big issue and I'd fire the person if he was working for me.
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So how did the bo5 end at the end?
also: way to go admins...
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