EPT[IEM] Gamescom KR/TW Qualifier - Page 6
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
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Serinox
Germany5224 Posts
On July 18 2012 22:07 TBO wrote: so is Keen vs Sniper going to be replayed/finished then? Probably not, as both agreed on playing a Bo3 before the series started. | ||
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Pirat6662001
Russian Federation949 Posts
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ESLSEA
Singapore102 Posts
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On July 18 2012 22:06 ESLSEA wrote: Bo5 was told to the players before the match. Our apologies for not having it clearly written in the rules at that time so it would not confuse the viewers. P.S : We did just edit them right now on the leagueinfo part to stop the confusion. You still appear to have confused the players as well. And it wasn't 'unclearly' a part of your rules, it wasn't a part of your rules at all. | ||
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garbanzo
United States4046 Posts
On July 18 2012 22:14 ESLSEA wrote: As stated above, it was clearly explained to the players and the casters it was a Bo5 before the match even started.. That doesn't really answer the question of why it's different than the other qualifier. Was it explained to the players why the rules were suddenly changed in the middle of the qualifier series? Edit: By the way, rules exist to resolve confusion. The rules were there beforehand. You guys got confused. The solution is not to change the rules to cover your confused asses, but to stick to the rules. | ||
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Serinox
Germany5224 Posts
On July 18 2012 22:16 garbanzo wrote: That doesn't really answer the question of why it's different than the other qualifier. Was it explained to the players why the rules were suddenly changed in the middle of the qualifier series? Edit: By the way, rules exist to resolve confusion. The rules were there beforehand. You guys got confused. The solution is not to change the rules to cover your confused asses, but to stick to the rules. The players agreed to play a Bo3 last qualifier, because it was later then. http://de.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2/b/324888306 | ||
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ESLSEA
Singapore102 Posts
The leagueinfo for this cup were a copy/paste, each player is reminded of the rules at anytime during the tournament. Leagueinfo is a guide provided for everybody to be aware of the general ground. Our mistake here, and out deepest apologies from the ESL Asia staff (we are the one organizing the qualifiers), was to not put too much weight on the leagueinfo towards our audience that might be interested in it. | ||
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
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NHY
1013 Posts
On July 18 2012 22:16 garbanzo wrote: That doesn't really answer the question of why it's different than the other qualifier. Was it explained to the players why the rules were suddenly changed in the middle of the qualifier series? Edit: By the way, rules exist to resolve confusion. The rules were there beforehand. You guys got confused. The solution is not to change the rules to cover your confused asses, but to stick to the rules. They didn't "change" the rule. They had an incorrect information on their website. Big difference. If they changed it to Bo3, that would be changing the rule to cover their ass. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
On July 18 2012 22:25 NHY wrote: They didn't "change" the rule. They had an incorrect information on their website. Big difference. If they changed it to Bo3, that would be changing the rule to cover their ass. Uhm where were the correct rules stated? If they were not available for the players anywhere before the tournament, it's silly to say that they didn't changed them. Should players just "guess" that it is bo5? | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On July 18 2012 22:27 opterown wrote: i guess if you look at it from inori's position he'd've been hella pissed if it got stuck at a bo3 He might have played a bit safer and not died to that dumb baneling bust if he knew he was one game away from elimination too. === These games are so sloppy, don't know how this ended up being the finals haha. | ||
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
On July 18 2012 22:27 opterown wrote: i guess if you look at it from inori's position he'd've been hella pissed if it got stuck at a bo3 players not reading the rules and suffering from it had happened a lot before, its the players fault if they suffer from that - if they benefit from it, they are lucky... | ||
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garbanzo
United States4046 Posts
On July 18 2012 22:25 NHY wrote: They didn't "change" the rule. They had an incorrect information on their website. Big difference. If they changed it to Bo3, that would be changing the rule to cover their ass. As far as I'm concerned, the written rules are the rules. Doesn't matter if that's not what they meant to put on there; players can't read minds. Doesn't matter what an admin says; the admin doesn't talk to every player. However, the information written on the website is available to everyone. If I were a player and I wanted to know the rules that's where I would go. So if they fucked up that information and it wasn't what they intended then, tough shit, they should stick with those written rules and "fix" it next time with a proper announcement. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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DailYLeet
Germany827 Posts
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Antares_
Poland269 Posts
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
On July 18 2012 22:23 ESLSEA wrote: The finals were always intended to be Bo5. Last qualifier Bo3 happened due to a miscommunication and was not changed since both players started the game being told it was Bo3, upgrading it to Bo5 afterwards does not make it better, just worst. The leagueinfo for this cup were a copy/paste, each player is reminded of the rules at anytime during the tournament. Leagueinfo is a guide provided for everybody to be aware of the general ground. Our mistake here, and out deepest apologies from the ESL Asia staff (we are the one organizing the qualifiers), was to not put too much weight on the leagueinfo towards our audience that might be interested in it. Intentions are no Rules. Rules need to be written down and be available beforehand of the tournament to be legit. Anything else is just arbitrary. | ||
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FatBat
Germany326 Posts
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