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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
July 07 2012 06:20 GMT
#321
That last game is how Zerg should be played. Sending endless waves of units.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
July 07 2012 06:20 GMT
#322
I'd start sending out only protoss/zerg to play against other zergs. Whether the matchup is imbalanced or not is irrelevant, it's just that most terran players are coming out and playing as if they are already defeated (from what ive seen in most gstl matches)
Maruprime.
the`postman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1643 Posts
July 07 2012 06:20 GMT
#323
On July 07 2012 15:18 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 15:17 the`postman wrote:
On July 07 2012 15:16 andaylin wrote:
On July 07 2012 15:15 the`postman wrote:
On July 07 2012 15:14 andaylin wrote:
On July 07 2012 15:13 the`postman wrote:
On July 07 2012 15:10 andaylin wrote:
On July 07 2012 15:09 the`postman wrote:
I don't understand why terran don't try runby's more often, main/expo were completely naked.

Because you never know how many speedlings zergs have and risk the hellions dying for nothing.

sometimes you gotta take risks, he lost the hellions anyways.

for a different reason, he was doing a push trying to take down third with rauder, hellion, banshee.

he had 10 hellions, why try and kill off the third? He could have slaughtered the economy with that force, engaging spines/queens with hellions was silly.

i don't even know how to respond to this.

Start with explaining how a force that was 80% hellions was meant to kill a third base.

because you dont use hellions to kill a building, but the marauders and banshees. the hellions kill the zerglings.....

Obviously, and he only had what 1-2 marauders and two banshees? His army had nothing prepared to kill spines/spores/queens, it was entirely geared around killing lings/banes/drones. He killed the ling/banes but then he engaged the queens/static d, instead of going for drones.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 06:21:42
July 07 2012 06:20 GMT
#324
On July 07 2012 15:18 the`postman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 15:17 pdd wrote:
On July 07 2012 15:15 the`postman wrote:
On July 07 2012 15:14 andaylin wrote:
On July 07 2012 15:13 the`postman wrote:
On July 07 2012 15:10 andaylin wrote:
On July 07 2012 15:09 the`postman wrote:
I don't understand why terran don't try runby's more often, main/expo were completely naked.

Because you never know how many speedlings zergs have and risk the hellions dying for nothing.

sometimes you gotta take risks, he lost the hellions anyways.

for a different reason, he was doing a push trying to take down third with rauder, hellion, banshee.

he had 10 hellions, why try and kill off the third? He could have slaughtered the economy with that force, engaging spines/queens with hellions was silly.

It's difficult to take out drones with banes and zerglings around. No real room to kite and you risk trapping those hellions without doing anything. It was pretty much a lose lose situation.

yes it's difficult, yes it's a risky, so is every time a zerg does a runby. If you start taking risks with hellions you're going to realize two range on queens defending a third isn't going to help defend the main.

You're trying to use idra's argument and failing at it.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
July 07 2012 06:20 GMT
#325
Bomber show that TvZ is not completely imbalanced
eSports for life.
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
July 07 2012 06:20 GMT
#326
--- Nuked ---
DizzySheep
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1144 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 06:21:57
July 07 2012 06:21 GMT
#327
what map is it?...antiga?
Edit: oh muspelheim
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 06:21:53
July 07 2012 06:21 GMT
#328
Team Liquid Live Report Threads motto:

Any attack under 30 minutes is an all in REGARDLESS of bases being taken or tech switches
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3321 Posts
July 07 2012 06:21 GMT
#329
Anybody get hordes of error today?
Can't watch 10 minutes without a restart.
I wish gomplayer worked for me
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 07 2012 06:21 GMT
#330
On July 07 2012 15:20 Scrubwave wrote:
I wonder if Bomber has some clever TvZ thingie.

he's probably going to go for his bio heavy + ravens play. I enjoy watching it
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NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
July 07 2012 06:21 GMT
#331
Bomber's worst match up is TvZ.
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
July 07 2012 06:22 GMT
#332
If TvZ is really as hard as Terrans make it out to be, just cheese. Seriously, if its THAT hard, then just do it. 11/11 Rax still works a lot of the time.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
July 07 2012 06:22 GMT
#333
On July 07 2012 15:20 Scrubwave wrote:
I wonder if Bomber has some clever TvZ thingie.


2 Rax...

Or some beast build? Pretty ballsy to send a T vs Z in the current state of the game.
banelings
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 06:24:01
July 07 2012 06:22 GMT
#334
On July 07 2012 15:20 the`postman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 15:18 andaylin wrote:
On July 07 2012 15:17 the`postman wrote:
On July 07 2012 15:16 andaylin wrote:
On July 07 2012 15:15 the`postman wrote:
On July 07 2012 15:14 andaylin wrote:
On July 07 2012 15:13 the`postman wrote:
On July 07 2012 15:10 andaylin wrote:
On July 07 2012 15:09 the`postman wrote:
I don't understand why terran don't try runby's more often, main/expo were completely naked.

Because you never know how many speedlings zergs have and risk the hellions dying for nothing.

sometimes you gotta take risks, he lost the hellions anyways.

for a different reason, he was doing a push trying to take down third with rauder, hellion, banshee.

he had 10 hellions, why try and kill off the third? He could have slaughtered the economy with that force, engaging spines/queens with hellions was silly.

i don't even know how to respond to this.

Start with explaining how a force that was 80% hellions was meant to kill a third base.

because you dont use hellions to kill a building, but the marauders and banshees. the hellions kill the zerglings.....

Obviously, and he only had what 1-2 marauders and two banshees? His army had nothing prepared to kill spines/spores/queens, it was entirely geared around killing lings/banes/drones. He killed the ling/banes but then he engaged the queens/static d, instead of going for drones.

A billion hellions definitely/2 banshees/2 marauders > 4 queens, a morphing spine, some lings and a few banes. Imperfect micro and huge production by Lucky (one wave of injections from 4 hatcheries) is what let him hold. You're underrating that timing; it very nearly killed Lucky (every queen died and he had 0 injections on the way, his only tech being incredibly larva-intensive).
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
July 07 2012 06:22 GMT
#335
On July 07 2012 15:21 SeeKeR wrote:
Team Liquid Live Report Threads motto:

Any attack under 30 minutes is an all in REGARDLESS of bases being taken or tech switches

I didn't see a fourth by Lucky or an intended tech switch anytime soon lol.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7298 Posts
July 07 2012 06:22 GMT
#336
Oh god, that "STAH-TAYL BOMBAH" voice.

So tough.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
July 07 2012 06:22 GMT
#337
On July 07 2012 15:21 pmp10 wrote:
Anybody get hordes of error today?
Can't watch 10 minutes without a restart.
I wish gomplayer worked for me

I've suffered the same exact thing many times. If you're using HQ, switch to SQ for a while then switch back. If you're on SQ...... just keep restarting. Or switch over to HQ if u have it
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
xPabt
Profile Joined February 2012
226 Posts
July 07 2012 06:22 GMT
#338
I haven't seen a single terran win vs that 3 base mass ling baneling with some muta aggresion.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
July 07 2012 06:22 GMT
#339
"I love Startale"

Disappoints sponsors by advertising Hot6ix instead of Red Bull.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 06:23:15
July 07 2012 06:22 GMT
#340
On July 07 2012 15:17 TechNoTrance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 15:16 neoghaleon55 wrote:
zerg midgame allin
lol
pretty scary



Not an all-in.


It actually is, If Terrans had better defenses (i.e. planetary, tanks bunkers) that many banelings would commit the Zerg too much gas to transition to late game.
moo...for DRG
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