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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
July 08 2012 02:35 GMT
#1241
On July 08 2012 11:33 Monochromatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:32 ramask2 wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:27 _Proto_ wrote:
CPJ posted on twitter saying the players agreed to play the map, and that the admins didnt feel the need for a regame or some bs like that. Did the players actually know it wasnt cross spawns to begin with? Because if watch Hero scout, he checks the cross spawn expansion and does a double take looking for DRG so it definitely seemed like he didn't know.

And in the first place, did they not have the right maps downloaded or setup? And if not why was it not fixed before hand? This is just the admins digging themselves into a bigger hole imo


Wow. I can't believe they're even trying to make excuses. Its one thing to make mistakes, its another to try and cover it up with crap like this.


I wonder if "the players agreed to play the map" Meant that they both were ok with the wrong map?

doesn't matter. should never be up to the players. like the DeMusliM vs Feast (i think it was Feast) screw up at IEM where Feast was whispered in game what DeMu was doing and IEM left it up to DeMuslim.

This is what admins are for.
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deceptionx
Profile Joined June 2011
United States152 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 02:35:20
July 08 2012 02:35 GMT
#1242
On July 08 2012 11:27 _Proto_ wrote:
And in the first place, did they not have the right maps downloaded or setup? And if not why was it not fixed before hand? This is just the admins digging themselves into a bigger hole imo


Cause it takes so long to download a map.

the`postman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1643 Posts
July 08 2012 02:35 GMT
#1243
On July 08 2012 11:33 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:29 the`postman wrote:
So why is no one crying about Hero beating DRG due to imbalance, all three of those games were stupid easy for hero? When DRG beats MMA the forum explodes into tears.

because drg played poorly + pvz is seen as relatively balanced.

tvz however has a huge controversy over it's current state.


also hero is a great player and played great in the series.

How did DRG play poorly? DRG is a great player, much better than Hero, and he played great vs. MMA, yet every game had loads of crying afterwards.
the`postman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1643 Posts
July 08 2012 02:36 GMT
#1244
On July 08 2012 11:32 SnakEhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:29 the`postman wrote:
So why is no one crying about Hero beating DRG due to imbalance, all three of those games were stupid easy for hero? When DRG beats MMA the forum explodes into tears.


And your point is???

My point is people don't need to whine every single time a Terran gets outplayed by a zerg.
Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States998 Posts
July 08 2012 02:36 GMT
#1245
On July 08 2012 11:34 ramask2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:33 Monochromatic wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:32 ramask2 wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:27 _Proto_ wrote:
CPJ posted on twitter saying the players agreed to play the map, and that the admins didnt feel the need for a regame or some bs like that. Did the players actually know it wasnt cross spawns to begin with? Because if watch Hero scout, he checks the cross spawn expansion and does a double take looking for DRG so it definitely seemed like he didn't know.

And in the first place, did they not have the right maps downloaded or setup? And if not why was it not fixed before hand? This is just the admins digging themselves into a bigger hole imo


Wow. I can't believe they're even trying to make excuses. Its one thing to make mistakes, its another to try and cover it up with crap like this.


I wonder if "the players agreed to play the map" Meant that they both were ok with the wrong map?


They clearly didn't know it was the wrong map going into the game. I wonder if they even told them later on that it was the wrong one. Judging by how fast the second game started, I doubt it.


Yeah, but the players knew it was the wrong map. I expected a pause when Hero Scouted the Gold mins.
MC: "Guys I need your support! iam poor make me nerd baller" __________________________________________RIP Violet
Lennient
Profile Joined January 2012
497 Posts
July 08 2012 02:36 GMT
#1246
nice build, Zerg cannot take the 3rd without getting at least 20 lings
honed
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada482 Posts
July 08 2012 02:36 GMT
#1247
On July 08 2012 11:35 the`postman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:33 FataLe wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:29 the`postman wrote:
So why is no one crying about Hero beating DRG due to imbalance, all three of those games were stupid easy for hero? When DRG beats MMA the forum explodes into tears.

because drg played poorly + pvz is seen as relatively balanced.

tvz however has a huge controversy over it's current state.


also hero is a great player and played great in the series.

How did DRG play poorly? DRG is a great player, much better than Hero, and he played great vs. MMA, yet every game had loads of crying afterwards.

did you watch the games? he played awful
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
July 08 2012 02:36 GMT
#1248
On July 08 2012 11:33 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:30 GreyKnight wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:29 the`postman wrote:
So why is no one crying about Hero beating DRG due to imbalance, all three of those games were stupid easy for hero? When DRG beats MMA the forum explodes into tears.


probably because DRG just sort of died.


The first match had DRG in the worst position on Antiga, he got fucked over because they played non-cross positions. The next two games he played fairly greedy and HerO tried to punish it and was successful, and greedy play should be punishable by all ins.

It's also possible DRG doesn't want to reveal his PvZ strats because he has to play NaNi in the GSL. I have a feeling he'd rather win that match than these show matches against HerO

I doubt DRG is that worried about Naniwa. He was probably just tilted by the map fuck up since he can usually hold off 2 base all ins easily.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
July 08 2012 02:36 GMT
#1249
On July 08 2012 11:34 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:33 Swords wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:30 GreyKnight wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:29 the`postman wrote:
So why is no one crying about Hero beating DRG due to imbalance, all three of those games were stupid easy for hero? When DRG beats MMA the forum explodes into tears.


probably because DRG just sort of died.


The first match had DRG in the worst position on Antiga, he got fucked over because they played non-cross positions. The next two games he played fairly greedy and HerO tried to punish it and was successful, and greedy play should be punishable by all ins.

It's also possible DRG doesn't want to reveal his PvZ strats because he has to play NaNi in the GSL. I have a feeling he'd rather win that match than these show matches against HerO


Uh yeah, that's why there's nothing to complain about.

Albeit this style of play HerO showed is likely what Naniwa will be doing.


Is this sarcasm? DRG isn't going to show any of his anti-allin builds because Naniwa will just watch the replays and know exactly how DRG responds when he scouts it.
SnowK
Profile Joined June 2011
United States245 Posts
July 08 2012 02:36 GMT
#1250
On July 08 2012 11:29 the`postman wrote:
So why is no one crying about Hero beating DRG due to imbalance, all three of those games were stupid easy for hero? When DRG beats MMA the forum explodes into tears.


Community is irrational
"Its like someone went 'What does protoss need.... I know, more ways to be an obnoxious cunt'" - Liquid`Jinro
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 08 2012 02:36 GMT
#1251
Damn, Doa is obsess about the sC style, whyile 90% of the time it's nothing like the sC style.-_-
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
July 08 2012 02:37 GMT
#1252
On July 08 2012 11:31 Bashion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:19 blamekilly wrote:
Immortal sentry is actually easy to defeat when you scout them having a bunch of sentries. just get OV drop, speed and baneling nest. drop that shit on them and easy win.,


You dont really need banelings. You can drop just lings and roaches. Immortal/sentry is strong because it prevents zerg army from closing the distance. Once they drop on your head, you are fucked. Symbol did that a few days ago. I cant remember against who.
The free version of this is Snute vs MaNa from Homestory V on Metropolis.
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Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
July 08 2012 02:37 GMT
#1253
On July 08 2012 11:36 Clefairy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:33 Swords wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:30 GreyKnight wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:29 the`postman wrote:
So why is no one crying about Hero beating DRG due to imbalance, all three of those games were stupid easy for hero? When DRG beats MMA the forum explodes into tears.


probably because DRG just sort of died.


The first match had DRG in the worst position on Antiga, he got fucked over because they played non-cross positions. The next two games he played fairly greedy and HerO tried to punish it and was successful, and greedy play should be punishable by all ins.

It's also possible DRG doesn't want to reveal his PvZ strats because he has to play NaNi in the GSL. I have a feeling he'd rather win that match than these show matches against HerO

I doubt DRG is that worried about Naniwa. He was probably just tilted by the map fuck up since he can usually hold off 2 base all ins easily.


Also possible.
blamekilly
Profile Joined April 2011
466 Posts
July 08 2012 02:38 GMT
#1254
baneling bust inc.. mma better make some bunkers
Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States998 Posts
July 08 2012 02:39 GMT
#1255
That tank control.
MC: "Guys I need your support! iam poor make me nerd baller" __________________________________________RIP Violet
WrexSC2
Profile Joined August 2011
United States51 Posts
July 08 2012 02:39 GMT
#1256
On July 08 2012 11:35 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:33 Monochromatic wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:32 ramask2 wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:27 _Proto_ wrote:
CPJ posted on twitter saying the players agreed to play the map, and that the admins didnt feel the need for a regame or some bs like that. Did the players actually know it wasnt cross spawns to begin with? Because if watch Hero scout, he checks the cross spawn expansion and does a double take looking for DRG so it definitely seemed like he didn't know.

And in the first place, did they not have the right maps downloaded or setup? And if not why was it not fixed before hand? This is just the admins digging themselves into a bigger hole imo


Wow. I can't believe they're even trying to make excuses. Its one thing to make mistakes, its another to try and cover it up with crap like this.


I wonder if "the players agreed to play the map" Meant that they both were ok with the wrong map?

doesn't matter. should never be up to the players. like the DeMusliM vs Feast (i think it was Feast) screw up at IEM where Feast was whispered in game what DeMu was doing and IEM left it up to DeMuslim.

This is what admins are for.


You are absolutely correct. Once upon a time I was left with a horrible decision to make for my pro Counter Strike team and it never should have been presented to me as an option. The admins should make the call. It's what they are there for in the first place. You can't bend the rules just because the players said so.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
July 08 2012 02:39 GMT
#1257
DRG looks......unhappy.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
honed
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada482 Posts
July 08 2012 02:39 GMT
#1258
what the hell was that o-o
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
July 08 2012 02:40 GMT
#1259
Metropolis should produce an interesting game here.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
July 08 2012 02:40 GMT
#1260
On July 08 2012 11:39 WrexSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:35 jmbthirteen wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:33 Monochromatic wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:32 ramask2 wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:27 _Proto_ wrote:
CPJ posted on twitter saying the players agreed to play the map, and that the admins didnt feel the need for a regame or some bs like that. Did the players actually know it wasnt cross spawns to begin with? Because if watch Hero scout, he checks the cross spawn expansion and does a double take looking for DRG so it definitely seemed like he didn't know.

And in the first place, did they not have the right maps downloaded or setup? And if not why was it not fixed before hand? This is just the admins digging themselves into a bigger hole imo


Wow. I can't believe they're even trying to make excuses. Its one thing to make mistakes, its another to try and cover it up with crap like this.


I wonder if "the players agreed to play the map" Meant that they both were ok with the wrong map?

doesn't matter. should never be up to the players. like the DeMusliM vs Feast (i think it was Feast) screw up at IEM where Feast was whispered in game what DeMu was doing and IEM left it up to DeMuslim.

This is what admins are for.


You are absolutely correct. Once upon a time I was left with a horrible decision to make for my pro Counter Strike team and it never should have been presented to me as an option. The admins should make the call. It's what they are there for in the first place. You can't bend the rules just because the players said so.

yeah cause as a player, you don't want to screw yourself over but you also dont want to seem like a dick and give yourself the advantage. players are there to play.
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