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The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
July 08 2012 02:30 GMT
#1221
On July 08 2012 11:27 _Proto_ wrote:
CPJ posted on twitter saying the players agreed to play the map, and that the admins didnt feel the need for a regame or some bs like that. Did the players actually know it wasnt cross spawns to begin with? Because if watch Hero scout, he checks the cross spawn expansion and does a double take looking for DRG so it definitely seemed like he didn't know.

And in the first place, did they not have the right maps downloaded or setup? And if not why was it not fixed before hand? This is just the admins digging themselves into a bigger hole imo

That's what I thought when I read that tweet. Did you tell the players you were playing on Antiga, they agreed to that, then they played a version that the players did not expect.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
July 08 2012 02:30 GMT
#1222
On July 08 2012 11:29 the`postman wrote:
So why is no one crying about Hero beating DRG due to imbalance, all three of those games were stupid easy for hero? When DRG beats MMA the forum explodes into tears.


probably because DRG just sort of died.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46652 Posts
July 08 2012 02:30 GMT
#1223
On July 08 2012 11:29 Monochromatic wrote:
MMA "DRG is EZPZ"

He literally said that.


Yes, this isn't the first time that the interviews have been shown They were also done before any matches were played.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 02:30:47
July 08 2012 02:30 GMT
#1224
On July 08 2012 11:29 The Final Boss wrote:
MMA vs DongRaeGu Bo5 series coming up:

Map 1: + Show Spoiler +
Steppes of War

Map 2: + Show Spoiler +
Nexus Wars

Map 3: + Show Spoiler +
DotA 2 ARAM

Map 4: + Show Spoiler +
Rock/Paper/Scissors (Bo3)

Map 5: + Show Spoiler +
Chess Boxing

DRG will still own him. EZPZ.
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 08 2012 02:30 GMT
#1225
On July 08 2012 11:29 The Final Boss wrote:
MMA vs DongRaeGu Bo5 series coming up:

Map 1: + Show Spoiler +
Steppes of War

Map 2: + Show Spoiler +
Nexus Wars

Map 3: + Show Spoiler +
DotA 2 ARAM

Map 4: + Show Spoiler +
Rock/Paper/Scissors (Bo3)

Map 5: + Show Spoiler +
Chess Boxing


Throw in a ZvZ in Brood War in there and it sounds about right.
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
July 08 2012 02:31 GMT
#1226
On July 08 2012 11:19 blamekilly wrote:
Immortal sentry is actually easy to defeat when you scout them having a bunch of sentries. just get OV drop, speed and baneling nest. drop that shit on them and easy win.,


You dont really need banelings. You can drop just lings and roaches. Immortal/sentry is strong because it prevents zerg army from closing the distance. Once they drop on your head, you are fucked. Symbol did that a few days ago. I cant remember against who.
I've got moves like Jagger
ramask2
Profile Joined June 2011
Thailand1024 Posts
July 08 2012 02:32 GMT
#1227
On July 08 2012 11:27 _Proto_ wrote:
CPJ posted on twitter saying the players agreed to play the map, and that the admins didnt feel the need for a regame or some bs like that. Did the players actually know it wasnt cross spawns to begin with? Because if watch Hero scout, he checks the cross spawn expansion and does a double take looking for DRG so it definitely seemed like he didn't know.

And in the first place, did they not have the right maps downloaded or setup? And if not why was it not fixed before hand? This is just the admins digging themselves into a bigger hole imo


Wow. I can't believe they're even trying to make excuses. Its one thing to make mistakes, its another to try and cover it up with crap like this.
SnakEhead
Profile Joined April 2011
United States62 Posts
July 08 2012 02:32 GMT
#1228
On July 08 2012 11:29 the`postman wrote:
So why is no one crying about Hero beating DRG due to imbalance, all three of those games were stupid easy for hero? When DRG beats MMA the forum explodes into tears.


And your point is???
Favorite player: MMA, Innovation
Picklebread
Profile Joined June 2011
808 Posts
July 08 2012 02:32 GMT
#1229
On July 08 2012 11:31 Bashion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:19 blamekilly wrote:
Immortal sentry is actually easy to defeat when you scout them having a bunch of sentries. just get OV drop, speed and baneling nest. drop that shit on them and easy win.,


You dont really need banelings. You can drop just lings and roaches. Immortal/sentry is strong because it prevents zerg army from closing the distance. Once they drop on your head, you are fucked. Symbol did that a few days ago. I cant remember against who.

Yea thats what i was saying. Banelings do sound like a good idea though when you figure out that toss is going immortal sentry push.
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
July 08 2012 02:32 GMT
#1230
Looking at MMA's screen name of Mavengence just makes me think of the name Ma Jae Yoon.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4561 Posts
July 08 2012 02:33 GMT
#1231
On July 08 2012 11:29 the`postman wrote:
So why is no one crying about Hero beating DRG due to imbalance, all three of those games were stupid easy for hero? When DRG beats MMA the forum explodes into tears.

because drg played poorly + pvz is seen as relatively balanced.

tvz however has a huge controversy over it's current state.


also hero is a great player and played great in the series.
hi. big fan.
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
July 08 2012 02:33 GMT
#1232
On July 08 2012 11:30 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:29 The Final Boss wrote:
MMA vs DongRaeGu Bo5 series coming up:

Map 1: + Show Spoiler +
Steppes of War

Map 2: + Show Spoiler +
Nexus Wars

Map 3: + Show Spoiler +
DotA 2 ARAM

Map 4: + Show Spoiler +
Rock/Paper/Scissors (Bo3)

Map 5: + Show Spoiler +
Chess Boxing


Throw in a ZvZ in Brood War in there and it sounds about right.

The finals is a best of seven on the same maps except that they have a Brood War ZvZ and a game of Magic the Gathering if it goes to Map 6 or 7.
Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1000 Posts
July 08 2012 02:33 GMT
#1233
On July 08 2012 11:32 ramask2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:27 _Proto_ wrote:
CPJ posted on twitter saying the players agreed to play the map, and that the admins didnt feel the need for a regame or some bs like that. Did the players actually know it wasnt cross spawns to begin with? Because if watch Hero scout, he checks the cross spawn expansion and does a double take looking for DRG so it definitely seemed like he didn't know.

And in the first place, did they not have the right maps downloaded or setup? And if not why was it not fixed before hand? This is just the admins digging themselves into a bigger hole imo


Wow. I can't believe they're even trying to make excuses. Its one thing to make mistakes, its another to try and cover it up with crap like this.


I wonder if "the players agreed to play the map" Meant that they both were ok with the wrong map?
MC: "Guys I need your support! iam poor make me nerd baller" __________________________________________RIP Violet
honed
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada482 Posts
July 08 2012 02:33 GMT
#1234
On July 08 2012 11:32 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Looking at MMA's screen name of Mavengence just makes me think of the name Ma Jae Yoon.

T_T
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
July 08 2012 02:33 GMT
#1235
MMA getting smarter, busting out the 2 rax :D
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
July 08 2012 02:33 GMT
#1236
On July 08 2012 11:30 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:29 the`postman wrote:
So why is no one crying about Hero beating DRG due to imbalance, all three of those games were stupid easy for hero? When DRG beats MMA the forum explodes into tears.


probably because DRG just sort of died.


The first match had DRG in the worst position on Antiga, he got fucked over because they played non-cross positions. The next two games he played fairly greedy and HerO tried to punish it and was successful, and greedy play should be punishable by all ins.

It's also possible DRG doesn't want to reveal his PvZ strats because he has to play NaNi in the GSL. I have a feeling he'd rather win that match than these show matches against HerO
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
July 08 2012 02:33 GMT
#1237
On July 08 2012 11:32 SnakEhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:29 the`postman wrote:
So why is no one crying about Hero beating DRG due to imbalance, all three of those games were stupid easy for hero? When DRG beats MMA the forum explodes into tears.


And your point is???

People are the worst.
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
Lennient
Profile Joined January 2012
497 Posts
July 08 2012 02:34 GMT
#1238
if MMA pulls some SCVs like MKP did ...
ramask2
Profile Joined June 2011
Thailand1024 Posts
July 08 2012 02:34 GMT
#1239
On July 08 2012 11:33 Monochromatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:32 ramask2 wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:27 _Proto_ wrote:
CPJ posted on twitter saying the players agreed to play the map, and that the admins didnt feel the need for a regame or some bs like that. Did the players actually know it wasnt cross spawns to begin with? Because if watch Hero scout, he checks the cross spawn expansion and does a double take looking for DRG so it definitely seemed like he didn't know.

And in the first place, did they not have the right maps downloaded or setup? And if not why was it not fixed before hand? This is just the admins digging themselves into a bigger hole imo


Wow. I can't believe they're even trying to make excuses. Its one thing to make mistakes, its another to try and cover it up with crap like this.


I wonder if "the players agreed to play the map" Meant that they both were ok with the wrong map?


They clearly didn't know it was the wrong map going into the game. I wonder if they even told them later on that it was the wrong one. Judging by how fast the second game started, I doubt it.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
July 08 2012 02:34 GMT
#1240
On July 08 2012 11:33 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 11:30 GreyKnight wrote:
On July 08 2012 11:29 the`postman wrote:
So why is no one crying about Hero beating DRG due to imbalance, all three of those games were stupid easy for hero? When DRG beats MMA the forum explodes into tears.


probably because DRG just sort of died.


The first match had DRG in the worst position on Antiga, he got fucked over because they played non-cross positions. The next two games he played fairly greedy and HerO tried to punish it and was successful, and greedy play should be punishable by all ins.

It's also possible DRG doesn't want to reveal his PvZ strats because he has to play NaNi in the GSL. I have a feeling he'd rather win that match than these show matches against HerO


Uh yeah, that's why there's nothing to complain about.

Albeit this style of play HerO showed is likely what Naniwa will be doing.
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