• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:20
CEST 01:20
KST 08:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway112v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature2Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event18Serral wins EWC 202549
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!6Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments7
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again! What mix of new and old maps do you want in the next 1v1 ladder pool? (SC2) : RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Would you prefer the game to be balanced around top-tier pro level or average pro level?
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo) Enki Epic Series #5 - TaeJa vs Classic (SC Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull
Brood War
General
Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion New season has just come in ladder ASL 20 HYPE VIDEO! [ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro24 Group A BWCL Season 63 Announcement Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches KCM 2025 Season 3
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Biochemical Cost of Gami…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1452 users

[Code S] RO32 Group H GSL 2012 Season 3 - Page 70

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 68 69 70 71 72 83 Next
CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr
Profile Joined June 2012
544 Posts
June 21 2012 13:08 GMT
#1381
lol what a map to rematch on

ST_Ace : u 4cc again ?
awaiting the return of the space cowboy
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 13:09:10
June 21 2012 13:08 GMT
#1382
Atlantis spacebear! Come on Taeja, go 11/11!
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
June 21 2012 13:09 GMT
#1383
On June 21 2012 22:07 Azzur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 22:05 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On June 21 2012 22:03 FakeDeath wrote:
On June 21 2012 21:59 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Leenock may be suffering from understanding the game so well he is stuck in a mindset of doing his own thing. It's pretty clear his understanding of SC2 is extremely high and at times has been way ahead of other Zergs, but if the game changes you have to change with it even if you found your own unique playstyle earlier than others did.


Really wrong with this statement Nazgul

You don't have to go 6 queen build or 4 queen build.
Leenock botched both of those games when he had a huge lead.
Leenock just played really subpar today.

You may want to read the topic.

On June 21 2012 22:01 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
He did have a big lead but it seems that Leenock doesn't play that lead out with the same intent as other Zergs. That is, with the intention to get to a broodlord army as safe and fast as possible.


But the thing is, he didn't need to get BLs as safe and fast as possible. All he needed to do was play better and not relax. His mindset problem was to not disrespect his opponent

I have no idea why you seem to think those things are mutually exclusive?
Administrator
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
June 21 2012 13:09 GMT
#1384
On June 21 2012 22:07 TG Manny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 22:00 Derez wrote:
Taeja and Ace both seem like they have no place in the ro16. It's a shame one of them advances over some of the people we've seen this week (maru, parting, happy). Luck of the draw I guess.


I say yes and no. With as quickly as GSL actually moves and the strength of Code A seemingly becoming better and better (If I were a pro and a consistent Code A late-round player, I'd be quite happy with my accomplishments even if I never made Code S), everyone who is eliminated will return quickly if they deserve it. Maru and Parting, imo, will crush their competition and at least make Up/Downs with relative ease. for AcE or Taeja to advance, being perceived as weaker players in comparison to those going down in other groups, would be awesome in my book. It means that there is more competition in GSL as a whole and upsets can still happen. What happens if AcE makes RO8? Suddenly he is "legit" despite being mediocre Code A/GSTL sniper style player.

If they didn't deserve this spot, and the other the RO16 spot, they will lose and lose again early in Code A. I'm ok with that. Code S is so dynamic with the new setup, and lets give props to whoever wins, even the longshots.

If ace makes ro8 he won't suddenly be legit, Rain reached the finals and that didn't make him legit, there are many other examples.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
June 21 2012 13:09 GMT
#1385
Ace looks scared now. Taeja just got into beast mode.
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
June 21 2012 13:09 GMT
#1386
Random shot of Fruitdealer, the hell?
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 21 2012 13:09 GMT
#1387
On June 21 2012 22:07 TG Manny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 22:00 Derez wrote:
Taeja and Ace both seem like they have no place in the ro16. It's a shame one of them advances over some of the people we've seen this week (maru, parting, happy). Luck of the draw I guess.


I say yes and no. With as quickly as GSL actually moves and the strength of Code A seemingly becoming better and better (If I were a pro and a consistent Code A late-round player, I'd be quite happy with my accomplishments even if I never made Code S), everyone who is eliminated will return quickly if they deserve it. Maru and Parting, imo, will crush their competition and at least make Up/Downs with relative ease. for AcE or Taeja to advance, being perceived as weaker players in comparison to those going down in other groups, would be awesome in my book. It means that there is more competition in GSL as a whole and upsets can still happen. What happens if AcE makes RO8? Suddenly he is "legit" despite being mediocre Code A/GSTL sniper style player.

If they didn't deserve this spot, and the other the RO16 spot, they will lose and lose again early in Code A. I'm ok with that. Code S is so dynamic with the new setup, and lets give props to whoever wins, even the longshots.


Yeah, I really like this new set up. I has given much higher level of competition so far. Taeja was a RO8 last season, I feel like he deserves code S if you look at who he went through.
AcE: I have no idea about. I used to think he was pretty much a mascot but he has been awesome for ST randomly.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
kckkryptonite
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1126 Posts
June 21 2012 13:09 GMT
#1388
No 11/11 makes me a sad panda
RIP avilo, qxc keyboard 2013, RIP Nathanis keyboard 2014
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
June 21 2012 13:10 GMT
#1389
Ah, the unspoken traitor zerg. Interesting to see him again.
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
June 21 2012 13:10 GMT
#1390
That was fruitdealer?
mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
June 21 2012 13:10 GMT
#1391
Is FruitDealer the new coach bonjwaaa?
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 21 2012 13:10 GMT
#1392
AcE just takes Sound's T-shirt every time he wants to go to the GSL. Rofl.
The Bomber boy
shArklight
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Singapore160 Posts
June 21 2012 13:10 GMT
#1393
Fruitdealer
Happiness is never grand.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
June 21 2012 13:11 GMT
#1394
On June 21 2012 22:09 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 22:07 TG Manny wrote:
On June 21 2012 22:00 Derez wrote:
Taeja and Ace both seem like they have no place in the ro16. It's a shame one of them advances over some of the people we've seen this week (maru, parting, happy). Luck of the draw I guess.


I say yes and no. With as quickly as GSL actually moves and the strength of Code A seemingly becoming better and better (If I were a pro and a consistent Code A late-round player, I'd be quite happy with my accomplishments even if I never made Code S), everyone who is eliminated will return quickly if they deserve it. Maru and Parting, imo, will crush their competition and at least make Up/Downs with relative ease. for AcE or Taeja to advance, being perceived as weaker players in comparison to those going down in other groups, would be awesome in my book. It means that there is more competition in GSL as a whole and upsets can still happen. What happens if AcE makes RO8? Suddenly he is "legit" despite being mediocre Code A/GSTL sniper style player.

If they didn't deserve this spot, and the other the RO16 spot, they will lose and lose again early in Code A. I'm ok with that. Code S is so dynamic with the new setup, and lets give props to whoever wins, even the longshots.

If ace makes ro8 he won't suddenly be legit, Rain reached the finals and that didn't make him legit, there are many other examples.


That was a different time though, getting deep in the GSL is way way harder nowadays. Hell, even staying in is harder then making the finals back then x_x
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
June 21 2012 13:11 GMT
#1395
On June 21 2012 22:09 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 22:07 Azzur wrote:
On June 21 2012 22:05 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On June 21 2012 22:03 FakeDeath wrote:
On June 21 2012 21:59 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Leenock may be suffering from understanding the game so well he is stuck in a mindset of doing his own thing. It's pretty clear his understanding of SC2 is extremely high and at times has been way ahead of other Zergs, but if the game changes you have to change with it even if you found your own unique playstyle earlier than others did.


Really wrong with this statement Nazgul

You don't have to go 6 queen build or 4 queen build.
Leenock botched both of those games when he had a huge lead.
Leenock just played really subpar today.

You may want to read the topic.

On June 21 2012 22:01 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
He did have a big lead but it seems that Leenock doesn't play that lead out with the same intent as other Zergs. That is, with the intention to get to a broodlord army as safe and fast as possible.


But the thing is, he didn't need to get BLs as safe and fast as possible. All he needed to do was play better and not relax. His mindset problem was to not disrespect his opponent

I have no idea why you seem to think those things are mutually exclusive?

I mentioned Leenock's real problem - you mentioned that Leenock "understands the game so well, that he is stuck in a mindset of doing his own thing", and the impression you gave is that is Leenock's issue for his defeat. But it is not - he can be successful doing his own thing - he just needs to play better to be successful.
mjxn
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia939 Posts
June 21 2012 13:11 GMT
#1396
On June 21 2012 22:10 Serinox wrote:
Ah, the unspoken traitor zerg. Interesting to see him again.


I miss his voice the most.
CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr
Profile Joined June 2012
544 Posts
June 21 2012 13:11 GMT
#1397
On June 21 2012 22:05 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 22:03 FakeDeath wrote:
On June 21 2012 21:59 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Leenock may be suffering from understanding the game so well he is stuck in a mindset of doing his own thing. It's pretty clear his understanding of SC2 is extremely high and at times has been way ahead of other Zergs, but if the game changes you have to change with it even if you found your own unique playstyle earlier than others did.


Really wrong with this statement Nazgul

You don't have to go 6 queen build or 4 queen build.
Leenock botched both of those games when he had a huge lead.
Leenock just played really subpar today.

You may want to read the topic. SC2 isn't as simple as playing bad and losing you can see many more things from a game.

Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 22:01 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
He did have a big lead but it seems that Leenock doesn't play that lead out with the same intent as other Zergs. That is, with the intention to get to a broodlord army as safe and fast as possible.



ok but thats really weird because leenock actually used to go quick broodlords before other zergs, even tho he likes to mix up a lot. cant it just be he has really bad condition, and feels awful all around today ? he tried to go bls deathball vs ryung too, he based his play around it, took daybreak with this intent...
awaiting the return of the space cowboy
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 13:14:25
June 21 2012 13:13 GMT
#1398
On June 21 2012 22:11 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 22:05 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On June 21 2012 22:03 FakeDeath wrote:
On June 21 2012 21:59 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Leenock may be suffering from understanding the game so well he is stuck in a mindset of doing his own thing. It's pretty clear his understanding of SC2 is extremely high and at times has been way ahead of other Zergs, but if the game changes you have to change with it even if you found your own unique playstyle earlier than others did.


Really wrong with this statement Nazgul

You don't have to go 6 queen build or 4 queen build.
Leenock botched both of those games when he had a huge lead.
Leenock just played really subpar today.

You may want to read the topic. SC2 isn't as simple as playing bad and losing you can see many more things from a game.

On June 21 2012 22:01 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
He did have a big lead but it seems that Leenock doesn't play that lead out with the same intent as other Zergs. That is, with the intention to get to a broodlord army as safe and fast as possible.



ok but thats really weird because leenock actually used to go quick broodlords before other zergs, even tho he likes to mix up a lot. cant it just be he has really bad condition, and feels awful all around today ? he tried to go bls deathball vs ryung too, he based his play around it, took daybreak with this intent...


Exactly this.Nazgul seems think otherwise.
Play your best
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
June 21 2012 13:13 GMT
#1399
I lying on the floor....that was too funny funny from Artosis XDDDD
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
June 21 2012 13:13 GMT
#1400
Surprised Artosis didn't mention dt drops.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Prev 1 68 69 70 71 72 83 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
22:45
Best Games of SC
Reynor vs Zoun
Classic vs Clem
herO vs Solar
Serral vs TBD
PiGStarcraft275
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft275
Nathanias 142
Nina 112
SpeCial 62
CosmosSc2 31
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 13325
Artosis 691
ggaemo 91
LaStScan 76
ZZZero.O 49
Dota 2
syndereN864
NeuroSwarm106
PGG 93
Counter-Strike
Fnx 1006
C9.Mang0445
fl0m115
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox554
Other Games
summit1g3745
Grubby3383
shahzam795
Maynarde139
UpATreeSC128
Trikslyr75
Sick41
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick839
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta24
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21602
Counter-Strike
• imaqtpie1278
• Shiphtur272
Upcoming Events
OSC
40m
Replay Cast
10h 40m
Afreeca Starleague
10h 40m
JyJ vs TY
Bisu vs Speed
WardiTV Summer Champion…
11h 40m
Creator vs Rogue
MaxPax vs Cure
PiGosaur Monday
1d
Afreeca Starleague
1d 10h
Mini vs TBD
Soma vs sSak
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 11h
Clem vs goblin
ByuN vs SHIN
Online Event
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
Zoun vs Bunny
herO vs Solar
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
BSL Team Wars
3 days
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
SC Evo League
4 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
Classic vs Percival
Spirit vs NightMare
[BSL 2025] Weekly
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
SC Evo League
5 days
BSL Team Wars
5 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Queen vs HyuN
EffOrt vs Calm
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-08-13
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSLAN 3
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.