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SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
June 18 2012 09:45 GMT
#261
On June 18 2012 18:43 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 18:40 SupLilSon wrote:
On June 18 2012 18:39 Yello wrote:
On June 18 2012 18:37 Domination wrote:
This game is impressively mediocre.


It's also interesting to see that the Zerg army is actually more cost- and supply-effective then the Terran army. Zerg behind one base all the game and still winning the engagements.


The illusion of zerg needing to be way up in bases vs Terran had a lot to do with ling/bling/muta being the standard imo. Now that zergs actually use infestor/BL/Ultra their army is a lot more cost efficient.



Terran is the new Zerg uh. Great game design.


That's balance yo.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
June 18 2012 09:45 GMT
#262
On June 18 2012 18:44 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 18:43 Snowbear wrote:
Okay I am totally clueless about this game. After the first successful push followed by good aggression and macro, I thought supernova had this? Am I missing something here?


Zerg can tech to ultras and infestors and broodlords while being on 3 bases. Even after loosing a base.

And supernova lost because of... TANKS! Stop making those nerfed pieces of shit!

mmm+bf hellion + thor+viking ftw
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
June 18 2012 09:45 GMT
#263
So, what kind of all in is Sniper gonna do on Antiga? hahaha, or try and win in the late game? o.O
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 18 2012 09:45 GMT
#264
Terrans don't autowin easily because of an eco lead. I thought MULEs taught us that ^__^
The Bomber boy
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 18 2012 09:45 GMT
#265
On June 18 2012 18:43 GreyKnight wrote:
it looks like supernova lost because he let zerg being strong in his head.

Honestly, a bit of this I think - I know he thinks Zerg is really hard now (same with every other terran btw), but..... that game should really not be loseable -___-;;

I thought he played good up until late game where it looked like he didnt have enough rax? It's really hard to adjust from th e position of 'I'm way ahead' to 'I'm barely ahead' or 'it's even' and I think he just kept playing as if he was way ahead even though he at some point wasn't anymore.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
dabbeljuh
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany159 Posts
June 18 2012 09:46 GMT
#266
hi, dont know if this is the right place, but is anybody here who is good with linux and has tried the gomtv streaming? if i use it as described on the webpage, I get the following error message

/scratch/local2/gom/sjp-GOMstreamer-991ccf8/linux>>./play.sh
File "/scratch/local2/gom/sjp-GOMstreamer-991ccf8/gomstreamer.py", line 337
except Exception as exc:
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

dont know what to, any help is appreciated.
Latty
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany567 Posts
June 18 2012 09:46 GMT
#267
On June 18 2012 18:43 Snowbear wrote:
Okay I am totally clueless about this game. After the first successful push followed by good aggression and macro, I thought supernova had this? Am I missing something here?


he lost i think like 3 armys totally unneccecary. like artosis said, 2/2 wasnt even done and he walked all the way to the zerg 3rd base to lose the whole army.

he basically threw away his advantage and sniper defended very well
"Nice, *claps* gogo kill kill, yeah bane speed, nice EU Power" Dimaga
iMonAhorsE
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany275 Posts
June 18 2012 09:46 GMT
#268
David Kim: "Tanks are too strong in TvZ"
RolleMcKnolle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany1054 Posts
June 18 2012 09:46 GMT
#269
my stream dies every 30 seconds... so annoying
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
June 18 2012 09:46 GMT
#270
On June 18 2012 18:42 DarKcS wrote:
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On June 18 2012 18:39 KonohaFlash wrote:
On June 18 2012 18:31 FuzzyJAM wrote:
If Supernova somehow loses this game it's going to be pretty fucking embarrassing.

How would it be embarrassing? This is how TvZ is supposed to be after patch


Most of the buffs were mental. Get over it. I never saw a queen even hit a hellion in that match.

While Supernova's mentality probably made him lose the game, but the queens absolutely had a role in the game when they kept the hellions away from the creep and everytime he killed a tumor, 3 new ones would go up. One of the reasons Supernova couldn't really push well after he had destroyed the third was the creep spread.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
MaNaVoId
Profile Joined February 2012
492 Posts
June 18 2012 09:46 GMT
#271
On June 18 2012 18:45 andaylin wrote:
So, what kind of all in is Sniper gonna do on Antiga? hahaha, or try and win in the late game? o.O


Of coz try and win in late game, zerg failing all-ins is the only factor keeping tvz winrate from not heavily favouring the zerg on ladder
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 18 2012 09:47 GMT
#272
On June 18 2012 18:43 Bashion wrote:
WTF?
After Sniper was way down in supply, in decided to go outside cause i was sure he would be dead soon.

How did he come back?

infestors
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Woizit
Profile Joined June 2011
801 Posts
June 18 2012 09:47 GMT
#273
Supernova looked terribly nervous, I lost count the number of times he double stimmed.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
June 18 2012 09:47 GMT
#274
On June 18 2012 18:45 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 18:43 GreyKnight wrote:
it looks like supernova lost because he let zerg being strong in his head.

Honestly, a bit of this I think - I know he thinks Zerg is really hard now (same with every other terran btw), but..... that game should really not be loseable -___-;;

I thought he played good up until late game where it looked like he didnt have enough rax? It's really hard to adjust from th e position of 'I'm way ahead' to 'I'm barely ahead' or 'it's even' and I think he just kept playing as if he was way ahead even though he at some point wasn't anymore.

honestly it looked like he transitioned into some weird bio mech (With more emphasis on mech) after the zerg transitioned into ling bane infestor

so he was like... a bit of marine marauder..... and a bunch of tanks and thors


o_o
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
June 18 2012 09:47 GMT
#275
Taeja CC first > 6pool xD. I forget against who though haha.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 18 2012 09:47 GMT
#276
idk Artosis, Byul had success with it xD
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 09:48:17
June 18 2012 09:47 GMT
#277
roach ling bling allin
only 2 queens
ok now 3 queen thats weird
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
June 18 2012 09:48 GMT
#278
On June 18 2012 18:46 MaNaVoId wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 18:45 andaylin wrote:
So, what kind of all in is Sniper gonna do on Antiga? hahaha, or try and win in the late game? o.O


Of coz try and win in late game, zerg failing all-ins is the only factor keeping tvz winrate from not heavily favouring the zerg on ladder

Nah, late game ZvT on Antiga is almost impossible against a competent Terran.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
June 18 2012 09:48 GMT
#279
On June 18 2012 18:44 thepeonwhocould wrote:
I guess everyone is suggesting that Supernova sits back and let's the zerg macro up to broodlord/infestor or Ultralisk and make 5 bases. Did you guys see what happened when Sniper got his late game army? Sniper crushes Supernova despite a 40 supply deficit. And Artosis/Tastless seem to be suggesting that SuperNova should have been more passive? Terran has to pressure in TvZ. SuperNova is a top player and those attacks were not mistakes. I think Artosis/Tastless are out of touch with the TvZ metagame, they need to go talk to some top korean Terrans.


Artosis always keeping up with the korean scene metagame.

Don't blame balance. Supernova bungled that game super hard.
Doing small pushes like that and continuing donating unit to Sniper and Sniper was playing very cost efficiently since he
was way behind.

Play your best
MaNaVoId
Profile Joined February 2012
492 Posts
June 18 2012 09:48 GMT
#280
On June 18 2012 18:46 Latty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 18:43 Snowbear wrote:
Okay I am totally clueless about this game. After the first successful push followed by good aggression and macro, I thought supernova had this? Am I missing something here?


he lost i think like 3 armys totally unneccecary. like artosis said, 2/2 wasnt even done and he walked all the way to the zerg 3rd base to lose the whole army.

he basically threw away his advantage and sniper defended very well


If any race is up 50 supply against terran, ahead in economy, they dun even need any upgrade timings or good army controls to crush terran.
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