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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
June 09 2012 02:45 GMT
#3741
Bio TvZ is actually pretty refreshing to see.

It's how I've been dealing with the Queen buff, though I transition into Tanks after taking my 3rd because I don't have MarineKing micro. :D
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
June 09 2012 02:45 GMT
#3742
On June 09 2012 11:42 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 11:38 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Poll: Which unit is more imba?

Defiler (29)
 
57%

Viper (22)
 
43%

51 total votes

Your vote: Which unit is more imba?

(Vote): Defiler
(Vote): Viper



Wow I'm surprised. I feel like you guys aren't giving the defiler enough credit. 50min/150gas for imba Dark Swarm and imba Plaque and imba Consume to use more imba Swarms and Plaques.


Just as I make this statement, the poll evens up to parity...
MMA: The true King of Wings
GulpyBlinkeyes
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1449 Posts
June 09 2012 02:45 GMT
#3743
On June 09 2012 11:43 refmac_cys.cys wrote:
What happened to NonY/Ranged?


Ranged came back and won 2-1.
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
June 09 2012 02:45 GMT
#3744
How did Symbol get back into this! ohmygoodness.
Mmm, what to watch.
artanis2
Profile Joined April 2010
United States732 Posts
June 09 2012 02:45 GMT
#3745
Wow symbol making a big comeback.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
June 09 2012 02:46 GMT
#3746
symbol is def ahead after that attack.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
June 09 2012 02:46 GMT
#3747
On June 09 2012 11:43 sc14s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 11:42 Azarkon wrote:
On June 09 2012 11:40 pdd wrote:
On June 09 2012 11:38 Azarkon wrote:
On June 09 2012 11:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 09 2012 11:35 Corrosive wrote:
On June 09 2012 11:34 Solo Terran wrote:
Things that are OP:

Those spider mine things are OP as FUCK LOL

Viper abduct looks pretty op

Ultralisk burrow charge look unstoppable.

spider mine: have obs unit
viper abduct: useless vs bio
ultralisk charge: just split bio


lol viper would use cloud on bio.


Ghost MMM.

EMP & snipe the vipers and infestors, MMM kills the rest. The way to go in HOTS.

Banelings.


Split MMM.

less efficient with clouds preemtively behind mmm


I don't known the range of these thing, but Marinew wont let you do that.
And these viper cost 200 gas, you wont put 10 cloud per battle.

I rather face someone making Viper than infestor. Cloud+baneling is 10 time less scary than fungal+baneling.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
June 09 2012 02:46 GMT
#3748
On June 09 2012 11:43 roymarthyup wrote:
warhounds .... i dont like the idea of a unit essentially being balanced to not be used against a race


warhounds should never be used against zerg because their DPS comes from attack+missiles and the missiles only target mech units


i cant think of any other unit that is truly useless against a race... can you think of one?

I liked how in the Blizzcon 2011 build of HotS, Warhounds had anti-air, splash-damage missiles that literally made them mini-Thors, at least anti-air wise. Even though their ground cannon attack was optimized vs Mech, their splash damage missiles seemed useful against clumps of Mutas, similar to how Thor splash damage missiles wreck clumps of Mutas that aren't magic-boxed.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
June 09 2012 02:46 GMT
#3749
Wow, Symbol could make a big comeback.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
June 09 2012 02:46 GMT
#3750
On June 09 2012 11:44 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 11:43 roymarthyup wrote:
warhounds .... i dont like the idea of a unit essentially being balanced to not be used against a race


warhounds should never be used against zerg because their DPS comes from attack+missiles and the missiles only target mech units


i cant think of any other unit that is truly useless against a race... can you think of one?


Well, Hydra against terran until hots.

The difference is that Hydras aren't inherently bad against Terran, as we've seen, a stat change makes them powerful. The warhound is terrible (and I'm the biggest HotS defender here, I'm sooo hyped) against Zerg no matter what the stats, because they have a mech exclusive attack.

Besides, Siege tanks are the ground damage dealers in mech, this Warhound is just them trying to make TvP mech work without any work or ingenuity.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 09 2012 02:46 GMT
#3751
On June 09 2012 11:43 roymarthyup wrote:
warhounds .... i dont like the idea of a unit essentially being balanced to not be used against a race


warhounds should never be used against zerg because their DPS comes from attack+missiles and the missiles only target mech units

i cant think of any other unit that is truly useless against a race... can you think of one?


Queens in BW?

(Ill admit its been a while)
Shaddar
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
675 Posts
June 09 2012 02:46 GMT
#3752
These two guys play so aggressively, I love it
Why is Check 6 afraid of Infinity Seven? Because Infinity Seven Team 8 Day [9]
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 09 2012 02:46 GMT
#3753
MARINEEEKINNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
June 09 2012 02:46 GMT
#3754
Sick play by Symbol, that closed the gap a bit.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
June 09 2012 02:46 GMT
#3755
nice bait symbol but how did mkp not see that.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 09 2012 02:46 GMT
#3756
sigh symbol never go banelings vs mkp
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
June 09 2012 02:46 GMT
#3757
Ahh yeah. Nice micro.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
June 09 2012 02:47 GMT
#3758
On June 09 2012 11:42 SC2Phoenix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 11:39 ELA wrote:
On June 09 2012 11:38 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Poll: Which unit is more imba?

Defiler (29)
 
57%

Viper (22)
 
43%

51 total votes

Your vote: Which unit is more imba?

(Vote): Defiler
(Vote): Viper



Easy for me.. Defilers are still disgustingly good, friggin hate those things
I would rather face vipers 100% of the time. Never again do I want to face playguu : (


D: 1 hp vessel cloud and then came the single muta lol. Defilers are the most evil unit ever created xD.
Shaddar
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
675 Posts
June 09 2012 02:47 GMT
#3759
On June 09 2012 11:46 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 11:43 roymarthyup wrote:
warhounds .... i dont like the idea of a unit essentially being balanced to not be used against a race


warhounds should never be used against zerg because their DPS comes from attack+missiles and the missiles only target mech units

i cant think of any other unit that is truly useless against a race... can you think of one?


Queens in BW?

(Ill admit its been a while)


Scouts against anything?
Why is Check 6 afraid of Infinity Seven? Because Infinity Seven Team 8 Day [9]
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
June 09 2012 02:47 GMT
#3760
Game is over. 2 level of upgrades ahead with medivacs count increasing ^^
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