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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
May 31 2012 10:05 GMT
#881
god i fucking HATE it when a player is behind in a game and behind in a series.

it just makes me lose hope completely.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 31 2012 10:05 GMT
#882
On May 31 2012 19:04 Fishgle wrote:
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On May 31 2012 19:02 tomatriedes wrote:
On May 31 2012 19:00 Tarotis wrote:
On May 31 2012 19:00 tomatriedes wrote:
If that strategy is as imba as everyone claims, I'm sure we would see pros using it a lot more. I'm pretty sure burrow move roaches could deal with it pretty well.

Yup, because there is no observer involved in this build


I'm not talking about the roaches being invisible I'm talking about moving past the forcefield.

And then the stalkers just stand there and kill all the roaches as they trickle slowly through a narrow ramp?

In all fairness. 5 roaches as static defense stops this build.
I had a good night of sleep.
casualman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1198 Posts
May 31 2012 10:05 GMT
#883
On May 31 2012 19:04 Wroshe wrote:
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On May 31 2012 19:02 OlorinTheWise wrote:
On May 31 2012 18:59 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 31 2012 18:56 pdd wrote:
On May 31 2012 18:54 ImNightmare wrote:
Fuck this strat, the timing is too short for zerg to react to and its way to advantageous for protoss without any set backs

He saw the robo and his saw blink researching. He should have been more prepared in his main. Even if the Robo built an observer rather than a warp prism blink stalkers into the main was a possibility and he really should have stayed defensive for that. It's not as imbalanced as people think it is. 6-10 roaches in the main would have been sufficient.


6-10 roaches would not have come close to holding all those stalkers unless TLO immediately knew to target the sentries immediately. That would be the only way I could realistically see 6-10 roaches working, if he eliminates the FFs (baring the first, the first FF WILL go up. No matter what you do the first goes up)

Even if you manage to target down the Sentries, he can just warp in more as needed with the Warp Prism once the Roach group has been killed. Unless the Protoss screws up, I really don't see how it would be held once it's in your base. o_O

Combination of a lot of lings in your main with a good overloord coverage so you see the thing fly in. That's what you'll have to do.


If you have units in the main he enters the natural, if reverse then other way around. If you have units in both he just kills your third, ffing the path to the third. It's like the ultimate lose/lose/lose scenario.
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 31 2012 10:05 GMT
#884
On May 31 2012 19:04 ImNightmare wrote:
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On May 31 2012 19:03 BlindKill wrote:
hmm how about overlord drop+ speed? That is kind of rare but it works at least as well as nydus and give the drop capability

It won't work, going that tech means saccing economy for tech. If a protoss player goes for the normal 7 gate all in, you will lose. If a protoss player goes 2 base 4 gate plus 1 zealot all in, you will lose. Its not viable dude.


Please stop posting.
DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
May 31 2012 10:05 GMT
#885
On May 31 2012 19:04 RPR_Tempest wrote:
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On May 31 2012 19:03 Corrosive wrote:
On May 31 2012 19:02 Thomanson wrote:
So, you can prevent it, if you're lucky or psychic. Gotcha.

or if you do this thing called scouting

Did you watch the game? TLO scouted the twilight council, the robo and the gates. He saw pretty much everything that went on.


Which is unfortunate because TLO should've been able to prevent that if he had kept his lings in his main base.

Prism wouldn't have been able to drop any sentries.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
May 31 2012 10:05 GMT
#886
Tassadar is controlling scouting very well.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
May 31 2012 10:05 GMT
#887
Standard Tassadar blink stalker into main.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12387 Posts
May 31 2012 10:05 GMT
#888
On May 31 2012 19:04 RPR_Tempest wrote:
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On May 31 2012 19:03 Corrosive wrote:
On May 31 2012 19:02 Thomanson wrote:
So, you can prevent it, if you're lucky or psychic. Gotcha.

or if you do this thing called scouting

Did you watch the game? TLO scouted the twilight council, the robo and the gates. He saw pretty much everything that went on.

he scouted very well, it's just he didn't react very well
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
EMPaThy789
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand878 Posts
May 31 2012 10:05 GMT
#889
y get +1 armor with a blink build ???
ThaSlayer
Profile Joined March 2011
707 Posts
May 31 2012 10:05 GMT
#890
On May 31 2012 19:05 C-ZG wrote:
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On May 31 2012 19:01 Thugtronik wrote:
On May 31 2012 18:57 C-ZG wrote:
On May 31 2012 18:56 Thugtronik wrote:
On May 31 2012 18:55 C-ZG wrote:
these casters are so biased it's making me angry


what do you expect? foreigners casting a game with a foreign team in a primarily korean tournament...


It might sounds strange to you but I'm interested in playstyle and gameplay, not the race of the player.


my point is that if you compare it to traditional sports it's exactly the same. whenever i watch a local sports team play on an international level with home commentators they are clearly biased.

go learn korean and listen to the korean stream if it bothers you that much

I don't care about how they do in traditional sports, stop avoiding.
I did mute btw, how can I listen to the korean stream ?

You have got to be kidding.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
May 31 2012 10:05 GMT
#891
On May 31 2012 19:05 WigglingSquid wrote:
Tassadar is controlling scouting very well.

Its not that hard..
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
May 31 2012 10:06 GMT
#892
On May 31 2012 19:04 Heouf wrote:
Why does the spoiler of the overall results in the opening thread say that Tassadar beaten Taeja.

What do you think? Maybe a mistake? Or maybe he is a wizard?
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
May 31 2012 10:06 GMT
#893
On May 31 2012 19:04 tomatriedes wrote:
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On May 31 2012 19:02 ImNightmare wrote:
On May 31 2012 19:00 tomatriedes wrote:
If that strategy is as imba as everyone claims, I'm sure we would see pros using it a lot more. I'm pretty sure burrow move roaches could deal with it pretty well.

Just because its imba, doesn't mean every pros would use it. There are people who actually wants to win a legit game instead of depending on cheesy stuffs. Jinro being one example. And burrow move wouldn't come at 8 minutes into the game. -_-


You really believe that? People play to win at pro level and will abuse a strat if it's abusable. Remember when almost every TvP was a 1-1-1?

I am talking about some people who won't. And I even type out jinro as a example. Geez. you people don't read do you. I believe there are people who won't cheese/
gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
May 31 2012 10:06 GMT
#894
On May 31 2012 19:04 casualman wrote:
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On May 31 2012 19:03 Corrosive wrote:
On May 31 2012 19:02 Thomanson wrote:
So, you can prevent it, if you're lucky or psychic. Gotcha.

or if you do this thing called scouting

no all you see is sentries and immortals and a warp prism. Then it turns out they're just harassing while taking a third and you waste 300/300 on nyduses.

Smart play.

Nyduses aren't a waste. You can use them later on offensively.
Ercster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States603 Posts
May 31 2012 10:06 GMT
#895
On May 31 2012 19:04 Logros wrote:
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On May 31 2012 19:03 Ercster wrote:
On May 31 2012 19:03 Logros wrote:
On May 31 2012 19:02 Thomanson wrote:
So, you can prevent it, if you're lucky or psychic. Gotcha.

See game 1, Zenio prevented it.

He didn't use the same build in game 1.

Because he didn't have the opportunity to make it work. He flew around the ramp with a WP full of sentries but Zenio had units there so he was forced to go to the 3rd and try to do some damage.

That's a common tactic. Bringing in the blink stalkers with it is what makes it so powerful.
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” -Neil deGrasse Tyson
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 31 2012 10:06 GMT
#896
On May 31 2012 19:04 Clazziquai10 wrote:
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On May 31 2012 19:02 abalam wrote:
On May 31 2012 18:56 BlindKill wrote:
OH I JUST THOUGHT OF A GOOD IDEA

why dont you nydus your 2nd expo and your main. that way even if he does that bullshit you can just walk into the nydus
That would actually be so good

He just targets the Nydus, dies in 1 round of blink stalker shots.


Hey this prompts me to think about this situation.....what if your entire nydus network gets destroyed with your army inside? If you rebuild the nydus will you be able to get your army back?

im pretty sure you do
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RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
May 31 2012 10:06 GMT
#897
On May 31 2012 19:04 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 19:02 ImNightmare wrote:
On May 31 2012 19:00 tomatriedes wrote:
If that strategy is as imba as everyone claims, I'm sure we would see pros using it a lot more. I'm pretty sure burrow move roaches could deal with it pretty well.

Just because its imba, doesn't mean every pros would use it. There are people who actually wants to win a legit game instead of depending on cheesy stuffs. Jinro being one example. And burrow move wouldn't come at 8 minutes into the game. -_-


You don't watch koreans much, do you. If it was overpowered, 99% of korean protoss would use it. Most of them don't care about 'legit' wins like foreign nr20 'pros'.

Not really. The 1/1/1 wasn't used by the majority of pros until months after it's debut. This build is very, very new.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
May 31 2012 10:06 GMT
#898
THAT PICK OFF BY TAEJA! <3
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JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
May 31 2012 10:06 GMT
#899
Go Taeja go!!!
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SpecFire
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1681 Posts
May 31 2012 10:06 GMT
#900
On May 31 2012 19:04 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 19:03 Corrosive wrote:
On May 31 2012 19:02 Thomanson wrote:
So, you can prevent it, if you're lucky or psychic. Gotcha.

or if you do this thing called scouting

Did you watch the game? TLO scouted the twilight council, the robo and the gates. He saw pretty much everything that went on.


Okay, so TLO should have kept his units near the natural and the main base. You scout BLINK, a robo and the gates. You don't need 30 lings at the tower. 1 ling at the tower, the rest near the ramp.

Sure, Tassadar can try luring with some stalkers or something in the middle of the map, but that's called mindgames, tricks and is smart for the protoss player, not imbalanced.
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