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RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
May 31 2012 10:04 GMT
#861
On May 31 2012 19:03 Corrosive wrote:
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On May 31 2012 19:02 Thomanson wrote:
So, you can prevent it, if you're lucky or psychic. Gotcha.

or if you do this thing called scouting

Did you watch the game? TLO scouted the twilight council, the robo and the gates. He saw pretty much everything that went on.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
May 31 2012 10:04 GMT
#862
On May 31 2012 19:02 OlorinTheWise wrote:
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On May 31 2012 18:59 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On May 31 2012 18:56 pdd wrote:
On May 31 2012 18:54 ImNightmare wrote:
Fuck this strat, the timing is too short for zerg to react to and its way to advantageous for protoss without any set backs

He saw the robo and his saw blink researching. He should have been more prepared in his main. Even if the Robo built an observer rather than a warp prism blink stalkers into the main was a possibility and he really should have stayed defensive for that. It's not as imbalanced as people think it is. 6-10 roaches in the main would have been sufficient.


6-10 roaches would not have come close to holding all those stalkers unless TLO immediately knew to target the sentries immediately. That would be the only way I could realistically see 6-10 roaches working, if he eliminates the FFs (baring the first, the first FF WILL go up. No matter what you do the first goes up)

Even if you manage to target down the Sentries, he can just warp in more as needed with the Warp Prism once the Roach group has been killed. Unless the Protoss screws up, I really don't see how it would be held once it's in your base. o_O

Combination of a lot of lings in your main with a good overloord coverage so you see the thing fly in. That's what you'll have to do.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
May 31 2012 10:04 GMT
#863
On May 31 2012 19:03 BlindKill wrote:
hmm how about overlord drop+ speed? That is kind of rare but it works at least as well as nydus and give the drop capability

that comes far too late
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
StrinterN
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark531 Posts
May 31 2012 10:04 GMT
#864
On May 31 2012 19:02 snotboogie wrote:
Wolf laying down the law.

like a boss ;D
Twitter: @Strintern Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/strintern
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
May 31 2012 10:04 GMT
#865
On May 31 2012 19:02 tomatriedes wrote:
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On May 31 2012 19:00 Tarotis wrote:
On May 31 2012 19:00 tomatriedes wrote:
If that strategy is as imba as everyone claims, I'm sure we would see pros using it a lot more. I'm pretty sure burrow move roaches could deal with it pretty well.

Yup, because there is no observer involved in this build


I'm not talking about the roaches being invisible I'm talking about moving past the forcefield.

And then the stalkers just stand there and kill all the roaches as they trickle slowly through a narrow ramp?
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 31 2012 10:04 GMT
#866
On May 31 2012 19:02 Ercster wrote:
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On May 31 2012 19:00 ceaRshaf wrote:
On May 31 2012 18:59 Ercster wrote:
What's with the shit luck so far for TL?


It's called skill, and they don't have it for GSTL.

You must be watching different games than I am. They have been playing really well, but they've been beaten by luck or weird builds. I wouldn't consider that skill.


Nah they're been destroyed so far, convincingly beaten.
Meiffeltower
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden674 Posts
May 31 2012 10:04 GMT
#867
so poorly done bu taeja.. just decided to give 5 marines?.. maybe good if didnt walk right throught the tower..
LEEEEE YOOOUUUUUNG HOOOOOO
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
May 31 2012 10:04 GMT
#868
?Nice going around the xelnaga.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
May 31 2012 10:04 GMT
#869
On May 31 2012 19:02 ImNightmare wrote:
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On May 31 2012 19:00 tomatriedes wrote:
If that strategy is as imba as everyone claims, I'm sure we would see pros using it a lot more. I'm pretty sure burrow move roaches could deal with it pretty well.

Just because its imba, doesn't mean every pros would use it. There are people who actually wants to win a legit game instead of depending on cheesy stuffs. Jinro being one example. And burrow move wouldn't come at 8 minutes into the game. -_-


You don't watch koreans much, do you. If it was overpowered, 99% of korean protoss would use it. Most of them don't care about 'legit' wins like foreign nr20 'pros'.
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ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
May 31 2012 10:04 GMT
#870
On May 31 2012 19:03 BlindKill wrote:
hmm how about overlord drop+ speed? That is kind of rare but it works at least as well as nydus and give the drop capability

It won't work, going that tech means saccing economy for tech. If a protoss player goes for the normal 7 gate all in, you will lose. If a protoss player goes 2 base 4 gate plus 1 zealot all in, you will lose. Its not viable dude.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
May 31 2012 10:04 GMT
#871
On May 31 2012 19:03 Ercster wrote:
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On May 31 2012 19:03 Logros wrote:
On May 31 2012 19:02 Thomanson wrote:
So, you can prevent it, if you're lucky or psychic. Gotcha.

See game 1, Zenio prevented it.

He didn't use the same build in game 1.

Because he didn't have the opportunity to make it work. He flew around the ramp with a WP full of sentries but Zenio had units there so he was forced to go to the 3rd and try to do some damage.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
May 31 2012 10:04 GMT
#872
On May 31 2012 19:02 ImNightmare wrote:
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On May 31 2012 19:00 tomatriedes wrote:
If that strategy is as imba as everyone claims, I'm sure we would see pros using it a lot more. I'm pretty sure burrow move roaches could deal with it pretty well.

Just because its imba, doesn't mean every pros would use it. There are people who actually wants to win a legit game instead of depending on cheesy stuffs. Jinro being one example. And burrow move wouldn't come at 8 minutes into the game. -_-


You really believe that? People play to win at pro level and will abuse a strat if it's abusable. Remember when almost every TvP was a 1-1-1?
FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
May 31 2012 10:04 GMT
#873
On May 31 2012 19:03 BlindKill wrote:
hmm how about overlord drop+ speed? That is kind of rare but it works at least as well as nydus and give the drop capability


Useful but takes years to research.
Heouf
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands787 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 10:05:44
May 31 2012 10:04 GMT
#874
Why does the spoiler of the overall results in the opening thread say that Tassadar beaten Taeja. Well good for me it ain't true (yet).
Gokba Alhakel
sOda~
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom441 Posts
May 31 2012 10:04 GMT
#875
heheheh team liquid bombing out of gstl in record time
IM THE SHIT BITCH
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
May 31 2012 10:04 GMT
#876
On May 31 2012 19:02 abalam wrote:
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On May 31 2012 18:56 BlindKill wrote:
OH I JUST THOUGHT OF A GOOD IDEA

why dont you nydus your 2nd expo and your main. that way even if he does that bullshit you can just walk into the nydus
That would actually be so good

He just targets the Nydus, dies in 1 round of blink stalker shots.


Hey this prompts me to think about this situation.....what if your entire nydus network gets destroyed with your army inside? If you rebuild the nydus will you be able to get your army back?
C-ZG
Profile Joined May 2012
35 Posts
May 31 2012 10:05 GMT
#877
On May 31 2012 19:01 Thugtronik wrote:
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On May 31 2012 18:57 C-ZG wrote:
On May 31 2012 18:56 Thugtronik wrote:
On May 31 2012 18:55 C-ZG wrote:
these casters are so biased it's making me angry


what do you expect? foreigners casting a game with a foreign team in a primarily korean tournament...


It might sounds strange to you but I'm interested in playstyle and gameplay, not the race of the player.


my point is that if you compare it to traditional sports it's exactly the same. whenever i watch a local sports team play on an international level with home commentators they are clearly biased.

go learn korean and listen to the korean stream if it bothers you that much

I don't care about how they do in traditional sports, stop avoiding.
I did mute btw, how can I listen to the korean stream ?
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
May 31 2012 10:05 GMT
#878
On May 31 2012 19:03 Logros wrote:
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On May 31 2012 19:02 Thomanson wrote:
So, you can prevent it, if you're lucky or psychic. Gotcha.

See game 1, Zenio prevented it.


No, Zenio prevented a sentry drop, that is 100% different than what tassadar did to TLO. Just the sentry drop (where the toss warps in zealots once he's in your base, is not imbalanced. As a zerg I hate to say that but its true, you scout the warp prism and just put some units in (because as wolf said no one drops sentries into lings)

HOWEVER, if they're doing the all in tassadar did vs TLO there actually is not stopping that
Thrombozyt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1269 Posts
May 31 2012 10:05 GMT
#879
On May 31 2012 19:04 Jono7272 wrote:
Taeja using terrans strong early game with this 5 marine push.. Lol :p

And he graciously spares the weak 2 stalkers...
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
May 31 2012 10:05 GMT
#880
Tassadar: "You SHALL NOT scout!"
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