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Sphaero
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1697 Posts
May 28 2012 01:08 GMT
#3701
Btw. there is nothing wrong with Stephano using this build. There is a lot of money on the line here and I think people underestimate how much execution this takes to make it look that one sided.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
May 28 2012 01:08 GMT
#3702
Check for a solution online! Microsoft can solve it!
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
May 28 2012 01:08 GMT
#3703
LOL, I can't believe that actually happened.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 28 2012 01:09 GMT
#3704
Always one hiccup
Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
May 28 2012 01:09 GMT
#3705
Microsoft killing ESPORTS once again.
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
May 28 2012 01:09 GMT
#3706
On May 28 2012 10:08 BronzeKnee wrote:
Check for a solution online! Microsoft can solve it!


LMAO i almost fell of my chair
I've got moves like Jagger
Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
May 28 2012 01:09 GMT
#3707
On May 28 2012 10:07 Amornthep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 10:06 Olinim wrote:
On May 28 2012 10:06 lulutheking wrote:
Is it standard in PvZ for P to send probe so early in the game ? Is this for harass or early scout ?

well u need to see if its an early pool.


It's always good to confirm gas/pool/hatch timings and who knows, you might be able to hide a probe for proxy pylons later.
Against a player like stephano? I really don't see that happening.
“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
lulutheking
Profile Joined April 2012
France106 Posts
May 28 2012 01:09 GMT
#3708
On May 28 2012 10:07 Amornthep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 10:06 Olinim wrote:
On May 28 2012 10:06 lulutheking wrote:
Is it standard in PvZ for P to send probe so early in the game ? Is this for harass or early scout ?

well u need to see if its an early pool.


It's always good to confirm gas/pool/hatch timings and who knows, you might be able to hide a probe for proxy pylons later.

but is it not a handicap at this level to have a probe not mining so early in the game ?
Machu PIchu
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
May 28 2012 01:10 GMT
#3709
On May 28 2012 10:08 BronzeKnee wrote:
Check for a solution online! Microsoft can solve it!

"To Microsoft! The cause of... and solution to... all of life's problems" - a wise man
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 28 2012 01:10 GMT
#3710
Squirtle's reliance on immortals and FFs to defend roaches is easily exploited by drop. Do that and he's dead. This style of Protoss play is not solid.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
May 28 2012 01:10 GMT
#3711
hmm hallucination. intersting
Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
May 28 2012 01:11 GMT
#3712
Lol, wheat getting the snipe on idra in there
“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
May 28 2012 01:11 GMT
#3713
LOL that poke at IdrA
Hallucination <3
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45082 Posts
May 28 2012 01:11 GMT
#3714
On May 28 2012 10:07 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 10:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 28 2012 10:04 Drazerk wrote:
On May 28 2012 10:03 Canucklehead wrote:
I don't know how anyone can complain about mc's style and then praise this 11-12 min max roach push, which is so boring to watch.


Can't see how anyone enjoys this build.

If it was a Korean using the build it would be universally hated >.>


I think the ends justify the means. I mean, is it boring? Sure. Does it win games? Hell yeah it does.

Winning > Entertainment in tournaments.


I just hope it gets figured out soon so we never have to see it again


That would be nice ^^ I suppose it would need to be the case that more complex and flashier play would be more effective than just huge all-ins (or cheese). Sometimes it will be, but I doubt we could ever guarantee such a thing.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
May 28 2012 01:12 GMT
#3715
On May 28 2012 10:09 lulutheking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 10:07 Amornthep wrote:
On May 28 2012 10:06 Olinim wrote:
On May 28 2012 10:06 lulutheking wrote:
Is it standard in PvZ for P to send probe so early in the game ? Is this for harass or early scout ?

well u need to see if its an early pool.


It's always good to confirm gas/pool/hatch timings and who knows, you might be able to hide a probe for proxy pylons later.

but is it not a handicap at this level to have a probe not mining so early in the game ?


those 100 mins are not really useful if you lose against a 6pool
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 28 2012 01:12 GMT
#3716
On May 28 2012 10:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 10:07 Drazerk wrote:
On May 28 2012 10:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 28 2012 10:04 Drazerk wrote:
On May 28 2012 10:03 Canucklehead wrote:
I don't know how anyone can complain about mc's style and then praise this 11-12 min max roach push, which is so boring to watch.


Can't see how anyone enjoys this build.

If it was a Korean using the build it would be universally hated >.>


I think the ends justify the means. I mean, is it boring? Sure. Does it win games? Hell yeah it does.

Winning > Entertainment in tournaments.


I just hope it gets figured out soon so we never have to see it again


That would be nice ^^ I suppose it would need to be the case that more complex and flashier play would be more effective than just huge all-ins (or cheese). Sometimes it will be, but I doubt we could ever guarantee such a thing.


I still say zergs need to use overseers >.>
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
May 28 2012 01:13 GMT
#3717
the roaches never end -.-
-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
May 28 2012 01:14 GMT
#3718
stephano continues massing units, no additional drones
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
May 28 2012 01:14 GMT
#3719
3-4 immortals are pretty good against mass roach.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 28 2012 01:15 GMT
#3720
On May 28 2012 10:10 Azarkon wrote:
Squirtle's reliance on immortals and FFs to defend roaches is easily exploited by drop. Do that and he's dead. This style of Protoss play is not solid.

Maybe he could try an MC and use Phoenix?
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