• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:51
CET 23:51
KST 07:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy7ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool48Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site KK Platform will provide 1 million CNY Recent recommended BW games Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group C [ASL21] Ro24 Group B [ASL21] Ro24 Group A
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Darkest Dungeon Path of Exile
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1089 users

[Up/Down] Group D 2012 GSL Season 3 - Page 65

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 63 64 65 66 67 71 Next
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 13:13:05
May 24 2012 13:12 GMT
#1281
On May 24 2012 22:11 FidoDido wrote:
if MC wins, Seed and MC advances
if MC loses, Seed and Zenio advances


Seed is through no matter what then? :DDDD

On May 24 2012 22:11 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 22:11 FidoDido wrote:
if MC wins, Seed and MC advances
if MC loses, Seed and Zenio advances


If MC loses and then Seed loses, it goes to a 3-way tie.


Oh yeah -_- I doubt that will happen though.
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
May 24 2012 13:13 GMT
#1282
On May 24 2012 22:11 Terrador wrote:
If MC wins, it's over right? Then MC will be 4-1, and Seed will advance due to tie breaker win over Zenio.


That sounds right. How do they manage three way ties, if both protoss players lose their games?
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
May 24 2012 13:13 GMT
#1283
Sorry my Seed fanboy is showing
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
May 24 2012 13:13 GMT
#1284
On May 24 2012 22:11 yotis wrote:
Is wolf paid by blizz to do this ?

"Let's take a minute to thank Mike Morhaime and Dustin Browder..."
+ Show Spoiler +
:D
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
May 24 2012 13:13 GMT
#1285
On May 24 2012 22:11 yotis wrote:
Is wolf paid by blizz to do this ?


Lemme think here. His job is to cast a game made by blizzard. Company he works at does a giveaway of another game by blizzard. I don't think he's gonna say "well the game is terrible so dont buy it kk"
quannguyen
Profile Joined January 2012
Vietnam1390 Posts
May 24 2012 13:13 GMT
#1286
On May 24 2012 22:12 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 22:11 FidoDido wrote:
if MC wins, Seed and MC advances
if MC loses, Seed and Zenio advances


Seed is through no matter what then? :DDDD


No. If MC loses and Seed wins, he and Zenio advances. If MC and Seed lose, 3-way tie
Unlimited Warcraft Works and Super Starcraft Taisen ^^
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
May 24 2012 13:14 GMT
#1287
On May 24 2012 22:13 Mentalizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 22:11 Terrador wrote:
If MC wins, it's over right? Then MC will be 4-1, and Seed will advance due to tie breaker win over Zenio.


That sounds right. How do they manage three way ties, if both protoss players lose their games?


Tiebreaker. They all play eachother, first to lose 2 games is out.
yotis
Profile Joined September 2011
Czech Republic652 Posts
May 24 2012 13:14 GMT
#1288
On May 24 2012 22:13 NuclearJudas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 22:11 yotis wrote:
Is wolf paid by blizz to do this ?

"Let's take a minute to thank Mike Morhaime and Dustin Browder..."
+ Show Spoiler +
:D


Ah I mean his advertising of D3, he did it yesterday too ...
are they lost forever?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 24 2012 13:15 GMT
#1289
MC you must win, for Seed!
Thrombozyt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1269 Posts
May 24 2012 13:15 GMT
#1290
On May 24 2012 22:11 bigbeau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 22:02 Thrombozyt wrote:
On May 24 2012 21:54 bigbeau wrote:
Posted this earlier but just so it doesnt get lost in the thread. In response to someone saying 2 fungals kill marines with or without combat shield:

TL;DR Medivacs heal 3 HP every time they cast the heal ability on a unit. They do this about 3 times a second. Over the course of 2 fungals, a medivacs will heal a unit about 24 times. A marine with combat shield only needs to be healed twice (6 HP) for it to survive 2 fungals with 1 hp remaining. That equates to one medivac per 12 marines, a reasonable number. So having combat shield will most likely save a marine from a two-fungal death if medivacs are involved.

Medivacs heal 9 hp/sec. Fungals do 30 damage over 4 secs. Marines have 45 health w/o combat and 55 with.

An issue arises in that medivacs heal 9 hp/sec focusing a single marine, but they spread out their healing over the army. They do heal 3 hp every 'heal', so lets assume the marines getting healed for 3 hp/3 sec or 1 hp/sec since thats about the time it takes for a medivac to heal all the other marines.

Without combat shield: Marine gets fungaled, takes 30 damage, gets healed for 4 hp. Has 19 Health Remaining. Gets fungaled again, dies.

With combat shield: Marines gets fungaled, takes 30 damage, gets healed for 4 hp. Has 29 Health remaining. Gets fungaled again,Has 3 health remaining, thats an extra fungal.

Obviously some crude math with the medivac healing rate, but the medivac would only have to heal the marine twice within the 8 seconds ( Each heal is 3 HP) to live with 1 life with combat shield.


Honestly, medivacs do not split up their healing automatically. They pick the lowest bio unit and start healing until full. Repeat until out of energy or targets. Sometimes it seems like they split, because they are grouped with stutter stepping bio, where they heal, get a move command and then pick a new target. Yet watch them in a fungal situation.. each medivac saves one marine if left alone.

So unless you factor in medivac micro and other dmg, combat shield does not influece the number of fungals needed to kill marines.


Oops, you're right. I'm still going with 3 fungals because, lets be honest with each other, who DOESNT micro their medivac healing? ^_^

Counterquestion: Who does?

But I will conceed: WIth combat shield, each medivac microed perfectly can save 12 marines, leaving them with 1 hp each. Without combat shield only 4 marines are saved with 3 each.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
May 24 2012 13:15 GMT
#1291
Dunno who to cheer for. I kind of want both MC and Zenio out of Code S. Life's hard as an anti-fan.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
May 24 2012 13:15 GMT
#1292
On May 24 2012 22:15 Thrombozyt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 22:11 bigbeau wrote:
On May 24 2012 22:02 Thrombozyt wrote:
On May 24 2012 21:54 bigbeau wrote:
Posted this earlier but just so it doesnt get lost in the thread. In response to someone saying 2 fungals kill marines with or without combat shield:

TL;DR Medivacs heal 3 HP every time they cast the heal ability on a unit. They do this about 3 times a second. Over the course of 2 fungals, a medivacs will heal a unit about 24 times. A marine with combat shield only needs to be healed twice (6 HP) for it to survive 2 fungals with 1 hp remaining. That equates to one medivac per 12 marines, a reasonable number. So having combat shield will most likely save a marine from a two-fungal death if medivacs are involved.

Medivacs heal 9 hp/sec. Fungals do 30 damage over 4 secs. Marines have 45 health w/o combat and 55 with.

An issue arises in that medivacs heal 9 hp/sec focusing a single marine, but they spread out their healing over the army. They do heal 3 hp every 'heal', so lets assume the marines getting healed for 3 hp/3 sec or 1 hp/sec since thats about the time it takes for a medivac to heal all the other marines.

Without combat shield: Marine gets fungaled, takes 30 damage, gets healed for 4 hp. Has 19 Health Remaining. Gets fungaled again, dies.

With combat shield: Marines gets fungaled, takes 30 damage, gets healed for 4 hp. Has 29 Health remaining. Gets fungaled again,Has 3 health remaining, thats an extra fungal.

Obviously some crude math with the medivac healing rate, but the medivac would only have to heal the marine twice within the 8 seconds ( Each heal is 3 HP) to live with 1 life with combat shield.


Honestly, medivacs do not split up their healing automatically. They pick the lowest bio unit and start healing until full. Repeat until out of energy or targets. Sometimes it seems like they split, because they are grouped with stutter stepping bio, where they heal, get a move command and then pick a new target. Yet watch them in a fungal situation.. each medivac saves one marine if left alone.

So unless you factor in medivac micro and other dmg, combat shield does not influece the number of fungals needed to kill marines.


Oops, you're right. I'm still going with 3 fungals because, lets be honest with each other, who DOESNT micro their medivac healing? ^_^

Counterquestion: Who does?

But I will conceed: WIth combat shield, each medivac microed perfectly can save 12 marines, leaving them with 1 hp each. Without combat shield only 4 marines are saved with 3 each.


Byun actually has his medivacs on a different hotkey to do just this.
summerloud
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1201 Posts
May 24 2012 13:16 GMT
#1293
(P)MC vs (T)Tree

map: Dual Sight

(P)MC: 3W1L
(T)Tree: 1W3L

5:00

MC orange protoss to the right
Tree teal terran to the left

MC gate,gas
Tree barracks, gas

Tree going for reactor rax CC expand
MC going 1gate robo
DizzySheep
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1144 Posts
May 24 2012 13:16 GMT
#1294
2 base tank marine timing ?
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
May 24 2012 13:16 GMT
#1295
mc 1 base all in?.. my god.
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
Farone
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
May 24 2012 13:16 GMT
#1296
go MC you can do it~!
MC, Stephano, Ret, Jjakji, Grubby, Life, HerO, Scarlett, TaeJa
michielbrands
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1146 Posts
May 24 2012 13:16 GMT
#1297
lets hope both MC & Seed lose, so both MC & Zenio can advance due to the 3 way tie and tiebreakers!
- me (L) competitive gaming -
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
May 24 2012 13:16 GMT
#1298
Life on the line? time to all in.
umelbumel
Profile Joined January 2011
2026 Posts
May 24 2012 13:16 GMT
#1299
MC o_O
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
May 24 2012 13:17 GMT
#1300
MC being MC
Prev 1 63 64 65 66 67 71 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
20:00
S22 - Ladder Tour #3
ZZZero.O102
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft715
ProTech47
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 15037
Shuttle 353
ZZZero.O 102
firebathero 95
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe195
Other Games
summit1g10603
Grubby3062
tarik_tv2396
ArmadaUGS351
KnowMe260
C9.Mang0212
ViBE36
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV58
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 74
• davetesta51
• musti20045 36
• Adnapsc2 14
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota280
League of Legends
• Scarra1128
Other Games
• imaqtpie1203
• tFFMrPink 13
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
11h 10m
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
13h 10m
BSL
20h 10m
Replay Cast
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 10h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 11h
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
1d 12h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 17h
OSC
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-27
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.