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On May 20 2012 02:43 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 02:42 Lann555 wrote:
Is Goody now the only foreigner to beat both MMA and Nestea in a best-of?
Dare I say...foreigner bonjwa? i dont know if youre being serious or not. What the fuck is a "foreigner bonjwa" People need to stop throwing that word around when they dont know what it means
he was obviously joking
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On May 20 2012 02:46 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 02:39 Xoronius wrote:On May 20 2012 02:37 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:On May 20 2012 02:20 Dosey wrote:On May 20 2012 02:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On May 20 2012 02:13 Swords wrote:On May 20 2012 02:09 michielbrands wrote:
hmz kinda in doubt wether i will pay for today, yesterday i wasn't able to watch..tommorow i am at a barcraft and I don't feel like watching everything currently so kinda useless to pay 20 dollar for that. I wish that I as a season pass holder was able to view all the arena events just 1 stream and perhaps on a lower quality or something this is kinda annoying. This is my problem with the PPV model MLG uses. Unless my weekend is free enough to see a good portion of the games it really isn't worth $20 to me. I don't want to spend $20 on a day's worth of games because I have stuff on Friday/Sunday when I could just spend the $20 on drinks with friends or seeing a movie or something. an MLG event is better than at least 95% of the movies hollywood makes and then asks you to spend ~$14 for at most 2.5 hours of entertainment. Even if you have 5 hours available for a weekend the 5 hours for $20 is a better deal than almost all of the movies made since 2000. There are a few all time classic movies that are incredible. But, you can download'em for nothin'. A UEFA Championship is free and offers the same amount of entertainment... I don't understand your point. Really? Euro 2012 and/or Champions league is FREE in the US? It sure ain't in Sweden. Really? Euro´s/World championships in football are always free in germany. It's really free in Germany? In Sweden it's bought by state TV, thus financed by everyone through taxes. UEFA and FIFA charges huge amounts for the rights to broadcast, I doubt there are many TV channels able to broadcast for free.
Well in countries like Germany England and Brazil they sure can broadcast it for free, they do when there is market fot ir.
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On May 20 2012 02:46 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 02:39 Xoronius wrote:On May 20 2012 02:37 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:On May 20 2012 02:20 Dosey wrote:On May 20 2012 02:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On May 20 2012 02:13 Swords wrote:On May 20 2012 02:09 michielbrands wrote:
hmz kinda in doubt wether i will pay for today, yesterday i wasn't able to watch..tommorow i am at a barcraft and I don't feel like watching everything currently so kinda useless to pay 20 dollar for that. I wish that I as a season pass holder was able to view all the arena events just 1 stream and perhaps on a lower quality or something this is kinda annoying. This is my problem with the PPV model MLG uses. Unless my weekend is free enough to see a good portion of the games it really isn't worth $20 to me. I don't want to spend $20 on a day's worth of games because I have stuff on Friday/Sunday when I could just spend the $20 on drinks with friends or seeing a movie or something. an MLG event is better than at least 95% of the movies hollywood makes and then asks you to spend ~$14 for at most 2.5 hours of entertainment. Even if you have 5 hours available for a weekend the 5 hours for $20 is a better deal than almost all of the movies made since 2000. There are a few all time classic movies that are incredible. But, you can download'em for nothin'. A UEFA Championship is free and offers the same amount of entertainment... I don't understand your point. Really? Euro 2012 and/or Champions league is FREE in the US? It sure ain't in Sweden. Really? Euro´s/World championships in football are always free in germany. It's really free in Germany? In Sweden it's bought by state TV, thus financed by everyone through taxes. UEFA and FIFA charges huge amounts for the rights to broadcast, I doubt there are many TV channels able to broadcast for free.
TV4 isn't state television, Its funded by ads.
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On May 20 2012 02:44 Eee wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 02:37 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:On May 20 2012 02:20 Dosey wrote:On May 20 2012 02:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On May 20 2012 02:13 Swords wrote:On May 20 2012 02:09 michielbrands wrote:
hmz kinda in doubt wether i will pay for today, yesterday i wasn't able to watch..tommorow i am at a barcraft and I don't feel like watching everything currently so kinda useless to pay 20 dollar for that. I wish that I as a season pass holder was able to view all the arena events just 1 stream and perhaps on a lower quality or something this is kinda annoying. This is my problem with the PPV model MLG uses. Unless my weekend is free enough to see a good portion of the games it really isn't worth $20 to me. I don't want to spend $20 on a day's worth of games because I have stuff on Friday/Sunday when I could just spend the $20 on drinks with friends or seeing a movie or something. an MLG event is better than at least 95% of the movies hollywood makes and then asks you to spend ~$14 for at most 2.5 hours of entertainment. Even if you have 5 hours available for a weekend the 5 hours for $20 is a better deal than almost all of the movies made since 2000. There are a few all time classic movies that are incredible. But, you can download'em for nothin'. A UEFA Championship is free and offers the same amount of entertainment... I don't understand your point. Really? Euro 2012 and/or Champions league is FREE in the US? It sure ain't in Sweden. Euro 2012 is free in Sweden, Champions League is partially free (Not all matches are), WTF are you talking about?
Financed through tax =! free. Swedish citizens pay shit loads of tax money to UEFA and FIFA for broadcasting rights.
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On May 20 2012 02:47 MLG_Adam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 02:44 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 02:43 LingBlingMuta wrote:On May 20 2012 02:40 L3g3nd_ wrote:On May 20 2012 02:38 MLG_Adam wrote:
We have over 20 hours of content on each of our 11 streams (over 200 hours of programming if you want to do the math that way). No commercials, 1080p, top tier talent, near instant VOD, top tier players, and a viewing mechanism to watch multiple streams. We have also upgraded our production every single event (jib cameras, PIP, lighting improvements, POVs, etc). We are trying to make this product worth it and I think it boils down to: you either think it is worth the money and pay for it, or you don't.
We're constantly adjusting our offering. The thing to keep in mind is that NO ONE in this space has figured it out yet. As a business we need to make money to keep doing these events. Have we found our perfect model yet? No. We plan to keep changing from season to season based on what works.
Thanks for your support. as a paying customer twice for MLG, i am very happy and will continue to do so, a lot of people just struggle with the change after it was free for so long. But honestly, MLG has stepped up its game SO much, as you say, 11 streams with 1080P, layouts that give you a stream and both players PPV, so much stuff, anyone complaining is very very silly, <3 MLG Same here, and I agree. Its worth every penny as far as I'm concerned. Although I am of the opinion that dropping the prices a hair will bring them more money. If they lower the cost $5 I imagine a ton more people would buy. as Adam said, they dont know what way works best. last arena was 10$ this one is 20$, i dont know if this is the reason they cost different amounts, but remember this is the first PPV we have ever had in sc2 (that i can think of) itll take a few months at least to sort out the perfect way to do it. The pricing was set up that way to encourage a season pass purchase ($30 for all 3 events+ Online qualifier HD, or $15 for Gold).
ah makes sense, think ill get a season pass next season ^_^
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On May 20 2012 02:46 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 02:39 Xoronius wrote:On May 20 2012 02:37 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:On May 20 2012 02:20 Dosey wrote:On May 20 2012 02:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On May 20 2012 02:13 Swords wrote:On May 20 2012 02:09 michielbrands wrote:
hmz kinda in doubt wether i will pay for today, yesterday i wasn't able to watch..tommorow i am at a barcraft and I don't feel like watching everything currently so kinda useless to pay 20 dollar for that. I wish that I as a season pass holder was able to view all the arena events just 1 stream and perhaps on a lower quality or something this is kinda annoying. This is my problem with the PPV model MLG uses. Unless my weekend is free enough to see a good portion of the games it really isn't worth $20 to me. I don't want to spend $20 on a day's worth of games because I have stuff on Friday/Sunday when I could just spend the $20 on drinks with friends or seeing a movie or something. an MLG event is better than at least 95% of the movies hollywood makes and then asks you to spend ~$14 for at most 2.5 hours of entertainment. Even if you have 5 hours available for a weekend the 5 hours for $20 is a better deal than almost all of the movies made since 2000. There are a few all time classic movies that are incredible. But, you can download'em for nothin'. A UEFA Championship is free and offers the same amount of entertainment... I don't understand your point. Really? Euro 2012 and/or Champions league is FREE in the US? It sure ain't in Sweden. Really? Euro´s/World championships in football are always free in germany. It's really free in Germany? In Sweden it's bought by state TV, thus financed by everyone through taxes. UEFA and FIFA charges huge amounts for the rights to broadcast, I doubt there are many TV channels able to broadcast for free.
Yes sure, it is the same situation, it is financed through taxes, but everyone with a TV has to pay those anyway, so there is no additional prize, which makes me consider them being free. But you´re right, technically everyone pays for them, just like everyone pays for the news, the weather and bad german series.
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Teffel vs Ret
Grubby vs Goody
Ganzi vs Alicia
Thorzain vs Socket
EDIT: I KNOW IT IS SOCKE HAH  Damn you auto spell. Leaving unedited so you guys can laugh at me.
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Socke and Thorzain is a real cool match because it's two foriegners who are both REALLY hitting their second wind. I wouldn't actually be surprised by either outcome there... But I really am hoping for ThorZain vs DRG which I believe is an IEM Finals rematch.
Edit: I've been corrected, it was Dreamhack Valencia
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On May 20 2012 02:50 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 02:46 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:On May 20 2012 02:39 Xoronius wrote:On May 20 2012 02:37 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:On May 20 2012 02:20 Dosey wrote:On May 20 2012 02:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On May 20 2012 02:13 Swords wrote:On May 20 2012 02:09 michielbrands wrote:
hmz kinda in doubt wether i will pay for today, yesterday i wasn't able to watch..tommorow i am at a barcraft and I don't feel like watching everything currently so kinda useless to pay 20 dollar for that. I wish that I as a season pass holder was able to view all the arena events just 1 stream and perhaps on a lower quality or something this is kinda annoying. This is my problem with the PPV model MLG uses. Unless my weekend is free enough to see a good portion of the games it really isn't worth $20 to me. I don't want to spend $20 on a day's worth of games because I have stuff on Friday/Sunday when I could just spend the $20 on drinks with friends or seeing a movie or something. an MLG event is better than at least 95% of the movies hollywood makes and then asks you to spend ~$14 for at most 2.5 hours of entertainment. Even if you have 5 hours available for a weekend the 5 hours for $20 is a better deal than almost all of the movies made since 2000. There are a few all time classic movies that are incredible. But, you can download'em for nothin'. A UEFA Championship is free and offers the same amount of entertainment... I don't understand your point. Really? Euro 2012 and/or Champions league is FREE in the US? It sure ain't in Sweden. Really? Euro´s/World championships in football are always free in germany. It's really free in Germany? In Sweden it's bought by state TV, thus financed by everyone through taxes. UEFA and FIFA charges huge amounts for the rights to broadcast, I doubt there are many TV channels able to broadcast for free. Yes sure, it is the same situation, it is financed through taxes, but everyone with a TV has to pay those anyway, so there is no additional prize, which makes me consider them being free. But you´re right, technically everyone pays for them, just like everyone pays for the news, the weather and bad german series.
It is the same in Spain. Euro, champions, worldcups are free. But they are public channels anyway.
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On May 20 2012 02:40 GARO wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 02:38 Swords wrote:
Oz definitely should not have challenged everyone to beat him in PvP. His statement was hilarious when by all definitions, Alicia is less SKILLED than him in PvP and still beat him.
Iam sad, but Oz seems clearly still traumatized from his clear defeat against PartinG.
PvP haunts him in his dreams.
Hope he can somehow get over that GSL match, and start to pwn again.
I mean his PvZ is one of the best in the game, and his PvT seems to be in shape as well.
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On May 20 2012 02:51 TheDougler wrote:
Socke and Thorzain is a real cool match because it's two foriegners who are both REALLY hitting their second wind. I wouldn't actually be surprised by either outcome there... But I really am hoping for ThorZain vs DRG which I believe is an IEM Finals rematch.
Edit: It's Socke, not Socket Adam.
dont remember IEM, but they played in the dreamhack valencia finals. back when DRG wasnt afraid of any terrans and thorzain took 2 games
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On May 20 2012 02:51 TheDougler wrote:
Socke and Thorzain is a real cool match because it's two foriegners who are both REALLY hitting their second wind. I wouldn't actually be surprised by either outcome there... But I really am hoping for ThorZain vs DRG which I believe is an IEM Finals rematch.
Edit: It's Socke, not Socket Adam.
No it's a Dreamhack Valencia rematch, a great serie actually. Hope it happens too.
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On May 20 2012 02:48 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 02:44 Eee wrote:On May 20 2012 02:37 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:On May 20 2012 02:20 Dosey wrote:On May 20 2012 02:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On May 20 2012 02:13 Swords wrote:On May 20 2012 02:09 michielbrands wrote:
hmz kinda in doubt wether i will pay for today, yesterday i wasn't able to watch..tommorow i am at a barcraft and I don't feel like watching everything currently so kinda useless to pay 20 dollar for that. I wish that I as a season pass holder was able to view all the arena events just 1 stream and perhaps on a lower quality or something this is kinda annoying. This is my problem with the PPV model MLG uses. Unless my weekend is free enough to see a good portion of the games it really isn't worth $20 to me. I don't want to spend $20 on a day's worth of games because I have stuff on Friday/Sunday when I could just spend the $20 on drinks with friends or seeing a movie or something. an MLG event is better than at least 95% of the movies hollywood makes and then asks you to spend ~$14 for at most 2.5 hours of entertainment. Even if you have 5 hours available for a weekend the 5 hours for $20 is a better deal than almost all of the movies made since 2000. There are a few all time classic movies that are incredible. But, you can download'em for nothin'. A UEFA Championship is free and offers the same amount of entertainment... I don't understand your point. Really? Euro 2012 and/or Champions league is FREE in the US? It sure ain't in Sweden. Euro 2012 is free in Sweden, Champions League is partially free (Not all matches are), WTF are you talking about? Financed through tax =! free. Swedish citizens pay shit loads of tax money to UEFA and FIFA for broadcasting rights.
In France, private TV channel buy diffusion rights, it's free for viewers, payed by ads. Nothing to do with taxes, and 100% free for french football fans.
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On May 20 2012 02:47 Kkxtrouble wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 02:46 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:On May 20 2012 02:39 Xoronius wrote:On May 20 2012 02:37 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:On May 20 2012 02:20 Dosey wrote:On May 20 2012 02:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On May 20 2012 02:13 Swords wrote:On May 20 2012 02:09 michielbrands wrote:
hmz kinda in doubt wether i will pay for today, yesterday i wasn't able to watch..tommorow i am at a barcraft and I don't feel like watching everything currently so kinda useless to pay 20 dollar for that. I wish that I as a season pass holder was able to view all the arena events just 1 stream and perhaps on a lower quality or something this is kinda annoying. This is my problem with the PPV model MLG uses. Unless my weekend is free enough to see a good portion of the games it really isn't worth $20 to me. I don't want to spend $20 on a day's worth of games because I have stuff on Friday/Sunday when I could just spend the $20 on drinks with friends or seeing a movie or something. an MLG event is better than at least 95% of the movies hollywood makes and then asks you to spend ~$14 for at most 2.5 hours of entertainment. Even if you have 5 hours available for a weekend the 5 hours for $20 is a better deal than almost all of the movies made since 2000. There are a few all time classic movies that are incredible. But, you can download'em for nothin'. A UEFA Championship is free and offers the same amount of entertainment... I don't understand your point. Really? Euro 2012 and/or Champions league is FREE in the US? It sure ain't in Sweden. Really? Euro´s/World championships in football are always free in germany. It's really free in Germany? In Sweden it's bought by state TV, thus financed by everyone through taxes. UEFA and FIFA charges huge amounts for the rights to broadcast, I doubt there are many TV channels able to broadcast for free. Well in countries like Germany England and Brazil they sure can broadcast it for free, they do when there is market fot ir.
In germany (as well as in Austria), it's on state TV for which you pay taxes. But you pay them independendly of the actual program, so people consider it "free", as you don't have to pay extra to unlock the tournament. Of course it's argueable whether it is free, but it's also argueable whether or not FreeTV which is living from ads is free. After all, watching ads is part of the "buying stuff" process 
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On May 20 2012 02:53 Agathon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 02:48 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:On May 20 2012 02:44 Eee wrote:On May 20 2012 02:37 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:On May 20 2012 02:20 Dosey wrote:On May 20 2012 02:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On May 20 2012 02:13 Swords wrote:On May 20 2012 02:09 michielbrands wrote:
hmz kinda in doubt wether i will pay for today, yesterday i wasn't able to watch..tommorow i am at a barcraft and I don't feel like watching everything currently so kinda useless to pay 20 dollar for that. I wish that I as a season pass holder was able to view all the arena events just 1 stream and perhaps on a lower quality or something this is kinda annoying. This is my problem with the PPV model MLG uses. Unless my weekend is free enough to see a good portion of the games it really isn't worth $20 to me. I don't want to spend $20 on a day's worth of games because I have stuff on Friday/Sunday when I could just spend the $20 on drinks with friends or seeing a movie or something. an MLG event is better than at least 95% of the movies hollywood makes and then asks you to spend ~$14 for at most 2.5 hours of entertainment. Even if you have 5 hours available for a weekend the 5 hours for $20 is a better deal than almost all of the movies made since 2000. There are a few all time classic movies that are incredible. But, you can download'em for nothin'. A UEFA Championship is free and offers the same amount of entertainment... I don't understand your point. Really? Euro 2012 and/or Champions league is FREE in the US? It sure ain't in Sweden. Euro 2012 is free in Sweden, Champions League is partially free (Not all matches are), WTF are you talking about? Financed through tax =! free. Swedish citizens pay shit loads of tax money to UEFA and FIFA for broadcasting rights. In France, private TV channel buy diffusion rights, it's free for viewers, payed by ads. Nothing to do with taxes, and 100% free for french football fans.
And you don't pay monthly fee for getting TV service in your home? (not trying to argue, curious about the french case).
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This is probably to much to ask.
For me it would be awesome if I could just buy 5 dollar, and spend it on games I want to watch.
So, lets say you sell a single game for a dollar, then I can watch 5 games.
I sadly do not have the time to watch a lot.
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I thought it was going to be 10 bucks this time round :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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