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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
May 19 2012 17:39 GMT
#401
On May 20 2012 02:37 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 02:20 Dosey wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:13 Swords wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:09 michielbrands wrote:
hmz kinda in doubt wether i will pay for today, yesterday i wasn't able to watch..tommorow i am at a barcraft and I don't feel like watching everything currently so kinda useless to pay 20 dollar for that. I wish that I as a season pass holder was able to view all the arena events just 1 stream and perhaps on a lower quality or something this is kinda annoying.



This is my problem with the PPV model MLG uses. Unless my weekend is free enough to see a good portion of the games it really isn't worth $20 to me. I don't want to spend $20 on a day's worth of games because I have stuff on Friday/Sunday when I could just spend the $20 on drinks with friends or seeing a movie or something.


an MLG event is better than at least 95% of the movies hollywood makes and then asks you to spend ~$14 for at most 2.5 hours of entertainment.

Even if you have 5 hours available for a weekend the 5 hours for $20 is a better deal than almost all of the movies made since 2000.

There are a few all time classic movies that are incredible. But, you can download'em for nothin'.

A UEFA Championship is free and offers the same amount of entertainment...

I don't understand your point.


Really? Euro 2012 and/or Champions league is FREE in the US? It sure ain't in Sweden.


Really? Euro´s/World championships in football are always free in germany.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 19 2012 17:40 GMT
#402
On May 20 2012 02:38 MLG_Adam wrote:
We have over 20 hours of content on each of our 11 streams (over 200 hours of programming if you want to do the math that way). No commercials, 1080p, top tier talent, near instant VOD, top tier players, and a viewing mechanism to watch multiple streams. We have also upgraded our production every single event (jib cameras, PIP, lighting improvements, POVs, etc). We are trying to make this product worth it and I think it boils down to: you either think it is worth the money and pay for it, or you don't.

We're constantly adjusting our offering. The thing to keep in mind is that NO ONE in this space has figured it out yet. As a business we need to make money to keep doing these events. Have we found our perfect model yet? No. We plan to keep changing from season to season based on what works.

Thanks for your support.

as a paying customer twice for MLG, i am very happy and will continue to do so, a lot of people just struggle with the change after it was free for so long.

But honestly, MLG has stepped up its game SO much, as you say, 11 streams with 1080P, layouts that give you a stream and both players PPV, so much stuff, anyone complaining is very very silly,

<3 MLG
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
May 19 2012 17:40 GMT
#403
On May 20 2012 02:38 Swords wrote:
Oz definitely should not have challenged everyone to beat him in PvP.

His statement was hilarious when by all definitions, Alicia is less SKILLED than him in PvP and still beat him.
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
May 19 2012 17:40 GMT
#404
Goddamn, Bling has a lot of money
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
May 19 2012 17:42 GMT
#405
Is Goody now the only foreigner to beat both MMA and Nestea in a best-of?

Dare I say...foreigner bonjwa?
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 19 2012 17:42 GMT
#406
yes! key scout by thorzain! europe fightin~
avenge north america!
LingBlingMuta
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States382 Posts
May 19 2012 17:43 GMT
#407
On May 20 2012 02:40 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 02:38 MLG_Adam wrote:
We have over 20 hours of content on each of our 11 streams (over 200 hours of programming if you want to do the math that way). No commercials, 1080p, top tier talent, near instant VOD, top tier players, and a viewing mechanism to watch multiple streams. We have also upgraded our production every single event (jib cameras, PIP, lighting improvements, POVs, etc). We are trying to make this product worth it and I think it boils down to: you either think it is worth the money and pay for it, or you don't.

We're constantly adjusting our offering. The thing to keep in mind is that NO ONE in this space has figured it out yet. As a business we need to make money to keep doing these events. Have we found our perfect model yet? No. We plan to keep changing from season to season based on what works.

Thanks for your support.

as a paying customer twice for MLG, i am very happy and will continue to do so, a lot of people just struggle with the change after it was free for so long.

But honestly, MLG has stepped up its game SO much, as you say, 11 streams with 1080P, layouts that give you a stream and both players PPV, so much stuff, anyone complaining is very very silly,

<3 MLG



Same here, and I agree. Its worth every penny as far as I'm concerned. Although I am of the opinion that dropping the prices a hair will bring them more money. If they lower the cost $5 I imagine a ton more people would buy.
The Gracken shall be re-released... Soon
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 19 2012 17:43 GMT
#408
On May 20 2012 02:42 Lann555 wrote:
Is Goody now the only foreigner to beat both MMA and Nestea in a best-of?

Dare I say...foreigner bonjwa?

i dont know if youre being serious or not.

What the fuck is a "foreigner bonjwa"

People need to stop throwing that word around when they dont know what it means
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
May 19 2012 17:43 GMT
#409
On May 20 2012 02:37 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 02:20 Dosey wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:13 Swords wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:09 michielbrands wrote:
hmz kinda in doubt wether i will pay for today, yesterday i wasn't able to watch..tommorow i am at a barcraft and I don't feel like watching everything currently so kinda useless to pay 20 dollar for that. I wish that I as a season pass holder was able to view all the arena events just 1 stream and perhaps on a lower quality or something this is kinda annoying.



This is my problem with the PPV model MLG uses. Unless my weekend is free enough to see a good portion of the games it really isn't worth $20 to me. I don't want to spend $20 on a day's worth of games because I have stuff on Friday/Sunday when I could just spend the $20 on drinks with friends or seeing a movie or something.


an MLG event is better than at least 95% of the movies hollywood makes and then asks you to spend ~$14 for at most 2.5 hours of entertainment.

Even if you have 5 hours available for a weekend the 5 hours for $20 is a better deal than almost all of the movies made since 2000.

There are a few all time classic movies that are incredible. But, you can download'em for nothin'.

A UEFA Championship is free and offers the same amount of entertainment...

I don't understand your point.


Really? Euro 2012 and/or Champions league is FREE in the US? It sure ain't in Sweden.

Understandable, they charge you guys for everything over there.
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 17:44:50
May 19 2012 17:44 GMT
#410
On May 20 2012 02:37 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 02:20 Dosey wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:13 Swords wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:09 michielbrands wrote:
hmz kinda in doubt wether i will pay for today, yesterday i wasn't able to watch..tommorow i am at a barcraft and I don't feel like watching everything currently so kinda useless to pay 20 dollar for that. I wish that I as a season pass holder was able to view all the arena events just 1 stream and perhaps on a lower quality or something this is kinda annoying.



This is my problem with the PPV model MLG uses. Unless my weekend is free enough to see a good portion of the games it really isn't worth $20 to me. I don't want to spend $20 on a day's worth of games because I have stuff on Friday/Sunday when I could just spend the $20 on drinks with friends or seeing a movie or something.


an MLG event is better than at least 95% of the movies hollywood makes and then asks you to spend ~$14 for at most 2.5 hours of entertainment.

Even if you have 5 hours available for a weekend the 5 hours for $20 is a better deal than almost all of the movies made since 2000.

There are a few all time classic movies that are incredible. But, you can download'em for nothin'.

A UEFA Championship is free and offers the same amount of entertainment...

I don't understand your point.


Really? Euro 2012 and/or Champions league is FREE in the US? It sure ain't in Sweden.

Euro 2012 is free in Sweden, Champions League is partially free (Not all matches are), WTF are you talking about?
MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
May 19 2012 17:44 GMT
#411
On May 20 2012 02:43 LingBlingMuta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 02:40 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:38 MLG_Adam wrote:
We have over 20 hours of content on each of our 11 streams (over 200 hours of programming if you want to do the math that way). No commercials, 1080p, top tier talent, near instant VOD, top tier players, and a viewing mechanism to watch multiple streams. We have also upgraded our production every single event (jib cameras, PIP, lighting improvements, POVs, etc). We are trying to make this product worth it and I think it boils down to: you either think it is worth the money and pay for it, or you don't.

We're constantly adjusting our offering. The thing to keep in mind is that NO ONE in this space has figured it out yet. As a business we need to make money to keep doing these events. Have we found our perfect model yet? No. We plan to keep changing from season to season based on what works.

Thanks for your support.

as a paying customer twice for MLG, i am very happy and will continue to do so, a lot of people just struggle with the change after it was free for so long.

But honestly, MLG has stepped up its game SO much, as you say, 11 streams with 1080P, layouts that give you a stream and both players PPV, so much stuff, anyone complaining is very very silly,

<3 MLG



Same here, and I agree. Its worth every penny as far as I'm concerned. Although I am of the opinion that dropping the prices a hair will bring them more money. If they lower the cost $5 I imagine a ton more people would buy.


Thanks for the support and the feedback!
Twitter: MrAdamAp
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 19 2012 17:44 GMT
#412
On May 20 2012 02:43 LingBlingMuta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 02:40 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:38 MLG_Adam wrote:
We have over 20 hours of content on each of our 11 streams (over 200 hours of programming if you want to do the math that way). No commercials, 1080p, top tier talent, near instant VOD, top tier players, and a viewing mechanism to watch multiple streams. We have also upgraded our production every single event (jib cameras, PIP, lighting improvements, POVs, etc). We are trying to make this product worth it and I think it boils down to: you either think it is worth the money and pay for it, or you don't.

We're constantly adjusting our offering. The thing to keep in mind is that NO ONE in this space has figured it out yet. As a business we need to make money to keep doing these events. Have we found our perfect model yet? No. We plan to keep changing from season to season based on what works.

Thanks for your support.

as a paying customer twice for MLG, i am very happy and will continue to do so, a lot of people just struggle with the change after it was free for so long.

But honestly, MLG has stepped up its game SO much, as you say, 11 streams with 1080P, layouts that give you a stream and both players PPV, so much stuff, anyone complaining is very very silly,

<3 MLG



Same here, and I agree. Its worth every penny as far as I'm concerned. Although I am of the opinion that dropping the prices a hair will bring them more money. If they lower the cost $5 I imagine a ton more people would buy.

as Adam said, they dont know what way works best. last arena was 10$ this one is 20$, i dont know if this is the reason they cost different amounts, but remember this is the first PPV we have ever had in sc2 (that i can think of) itll take a few months at least to sort out the perfect way to do it.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
MLG Deimos
Profile Joined September 2010
United States652 Posts
May 19 2012 17:45 GMT
#413
On May 20 2012 02:36 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 02:31 Kkxtrouble wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:20 Dosey wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:13 Swords wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:09 michielbrands wrote:
hmz kinda in doubt wether i will pay for today, yesterday i wasn't able to watch..tommorow i am at a barcraft and I don't feel like watching everything currently so kinda useless to pay 20 dollar for that. I wish that I as a season pass holder was able to view all the arena events just 1 stream and perhaps on a lower quality or something this is kinda annoying.



This is my problem with the PPV model MLG uses. Unless my weekend is free enough to see a good portion of the games it really isn't worth $20 to me. I don't want to spend $20 on a day's worth of games because I have stuff on Friday/Sunday when I could just spend the $20 on drinks with friends or seeing a movie or something.


an MLG event is better than at least 95% of the movies hollywood makes and then asks you to spend ~$14 for at most 2.5 hours of entertainment.

Even if you have 5 hours available for a weekend the 5 hours for $20 is a better deal than almost all of the movies made since 2000.

There are a few all time classic movies that are incredible. But, you can download'em for nothin'.

A UEFA Championship is free and offers the same amount of entertainment...

I don't understand your point.

Yeah, and SC2 is just as big as football right?


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Anywayyyyyy, what's the update? Are they finished up round 1 of LB and starting R2?

LR2 will start around 2 PM ET (15 minutes)
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
May 19 2012 17:46 GMT
#414
MMA, Oz, SeleCT, IdrA all out 0-2 already. wow crazy results so far..... except for that last name of course
pak150
Profile Joined September 2010
United States531 Posts
May 19 2012 17:46 GMT
#415
On May 20 2012 02:44 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 02:43 LingBlingMuta wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:40 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:38 MLG_Adam wrote:
We have over 20 hours of content on each of our 11 streams (over 200 hours of programming if you want to do the math that way). No commercials, 1080p, top tier talent, near instant VOD, top tier players, and a viewing mechanism to watch multiple streams. We have also upgraded our production every single event (jib cameras, PIP, lighting improvements, POVs, etc). We are trying to make this product worth it and I think it boils down to: you either think it is worth the money and pay for it, or you don't.

We're constantly adjusting our offering. The thing to keep in mind is that NO ONE in this space has figured it out yet. As a business we need to make money to keep doing these events. Have we found our perfect model yet? No. We plan to keep changing from season to season based on what works.

Thanks for your support.

as a paying customer twice for MLG, i am very happy and will continue to do so, a lot of people just struggle with the change after it was free for so long.

But honestly, MLG has stepped up its game SO much, as you say, 11 streams with 1080P, layouts that give you a stream and both players PPV, so much stuff, anyone complaining is very very silly,

<3 MLG



Same here, and I agree. Its worth every penny as far as I'm concerned. Although I am of the opinion that dropping the prices a hair will bring them more money. If they lower the cost $5 I imagine a ton more people would buy.


Thanks for the support and the feedback!

Yeah -- I'm loving the event so far. Definitely the highest quality stream I've seen to date. The matches have been fun, and the commentary is good too. Definitely worth the $15 I paid
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
May 19 2012 17:46 GMT
#416
On May 20 2012 02:39 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 02:37 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:20 Dosey wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:13 Swords wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:09 michielbrands wrote:
hmz kinda in doubt wether i will pay for today, yesterday i wasn't able to watch..tommorow i am at a barcraft and I don't feel like watching everything currently so kinda useless to pay 20 dollar for that. I wish that I as a season pass holder was able to view all the arena events just 1 stream and perhaps on a lower quality or something this is kinda annoying.



This is my problem with the PPV model MLG uses. Unless my weekend is free enough to see a good portion of the games it really isn't worth $20 to me. I don't want to spend $20 on a day's worth of games because I have stuff on Friday/Sunday when I could just spend the $20 on drinks with friends or seeing a movie or something.


an MLG event is better than at least 95% of the movies hollywood makes and then asks you to spend ~$14 for at most 2.5 hours of entertainment.

Even if you have 5 hours available for a weekend the 5 hours for $20 is a better deal than almost all of the movies made since 2000.

There are a few all time classic movies that are incredible. But, you can download'em for nothin'.

A UEFA Championship is free and offers the same amount of entertainment...

I don't understand your point.


Really? Euro 2012 and/or Champions league is FREE in the US? It sure ain't in Sweden.


Really? Euro´s/World championships in football are always free in germany.


It's really free in Germany? In Sweden it's bought by state TV, thus financed by everyone through taxes. UEFA and FIFA charges huge amounts for the rights to broadcast, I doubt there are many TV channels able to broadcast for free.
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
May 19 2012 17:46 GMT
#417
On May 20 2012 02:43 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 02:42 Lann555 wrote:
Is Goody now the only foreigner to beat both MMA and Nestea in a best-of?

Dare I say...foreigner bonjwa?

i dont know if youre being serious or not.

What the fuck is a "foreigner bonjwa"

People need to stop throwing that word around when they dont know what it means


Yeah, he probably means a foreigner who is much better than the others and dominates the foreign scene, and the only one in that case is Stephano.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 19 2012 17:46 GMT
#418
oh good god grubby is fucking hot, homo
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
May 19 2012 17:47 GMT
#419
Kill him thor. I wanna watch Goody v Grubby
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
May 19 2012 17:47 GMT
#420
On May 20 2012 02:44 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 02:43 LingBlingMuta wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:40 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 20 2012 02:38 MLG_Adam wrote:
We have over 20 hours of content on each of our 11 streams (over 200 hours of programming if you want to do the math that way). No commercials, 1080p, top tier talent, near instant VOD, top tier players, and a viewing mechanism to watch multiple streams. We have also upgraded our production every single event (jib cameras, PIP, lighting improvements, POVs, etc). We are trying to make this product worth it and I think it boils down to: you either think it is worth the money and pay for it, or you don't.

We're constantly adjusting our offering. The thing to keep in mind is that NO ONE in this space has figured it out yet. As a business we need to make money to keep doing these events. Have we found our perfect model yet? No. We plan to keep changing from season to season based on what works.

Thanks for your support.

as a paying customer twice for MLG, i am very happy and will continue to do so, a lot of people just struggle with the change after it was free for so long.

But honestly, MLG has stepped up its game SO much, as you say, 11 streams with 1080P, layouts that give you a stream and both players PPV, so much stuff, anyone complaining is very very silly,

<3 MLG



Same here, and I agree. Its worth every penny as far as I'm concerned. Although I am of the opinion that dropping the prices a hair will bring them more money. If they lower the cost $5 I imagine a ton more people would buy.

as Adam said, they dont know what way works best. last arena was 10$ this one is 20$, i dont know if this is the reason they cost different amounts, but remember this is the first PPV we have ever had in sc2 (that i can think of) itll take a few months at least to sort out the perfect way to do it.



The pricing was set up that way to encourage a season pass purchase ($30 for all 3 events+ Online qualifier HD, or $15 for Gold).
Twitter: MrAdamAp
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