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Thanks E-Sports TV! and Pokebunny for updating the op all day. I finally have to go do stuff 
I hope the BW teams take SC2 seriously, would love to see them keep improving as well as watching quality BW. Think I'd like to see SC2 specialists within the teams instead of encouraging/coercing the current BW masters to play though if they're not really committed to it. Will be interesting to see how it all develops though whatever happens.
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Not enough vikings, not enough ghosts, overstimmed.. And protoss bossing it up today;
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49634 Posts
On May 20 2012 23:08 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 23:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 20 2012 23:06 Plexa wrote:On May 20 2012 23:03 BLinD-RawR wrote: classic is the best SC2 terran I've seen so far, its weird. mmm reality beats him out I think. He wasn't that impressive because you need to keep in mind his hidden base was propping up his economy and he could barely keep up with flying. he didn't even get gas on that base till almost the end though. Terran doesn't need gas in TvP, he needs minerals.
what about for ghosts, they are heavy on gas.....by next weekend literally everyone will have practiced their vP that it will be so different.
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Toss is just ridiculously forgiving. So for these guys with their unrefined play, Toss is going to be the easiest by far. Same reasons why Toss is by far the easiest amongst casual and amateur gamers.
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On May 20 2012 23:08 kratos-23 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 23:06 LloydPGM wrote: Classic TvP to finish, terran played well but you can't win a protoss with 200/200 army, so P still undefeated in this SPL. To all BW players going to play sc2, just pick protoss : easy race to master. no Reality (T) has beaten firebathero (P)
Sry, it's just 9 - 1 for protoss in those sc2 matchs, I was 90% right.
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Well gg. Long fucking day o_O. I'm glad that KT at least. You can already feel how horrible the rule is about that every player has to practice both BW and SC2 if they want to play an official Proleague match this season. The standard will be rock bottom no matter how good they are and how much they have evolved their SC2 gameplay. It's just to much and to stressful. =/
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On May 20 2012 23:11 Dodgin wrote: Thanks to Sayle/Pokebunny/Hotbid/Orb for casting and everyone who watched along with me, it was a long 11 hours but really fun. Goodnight.
hot bid wasnt casting
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today's best game was: Effort vs Flash
i still need to choose my favorite sc1/sc2 team >.<
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I'm guessing there will be a lot of PvP's next week.
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Sweden914 Posts
On May 20 2012 23:08 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 23:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 20 2012 23:06 Plexa wrote:On May 20 2012 23:03 BLinD-RawR wrote: classic is the best SC2 terran I've seen so far, its weird. mmm reality beats him out I think. He wasn't that impressive because you need to keep in mind his hidden base was propping up his economy and he could barely keep up with flying. he didn't even get gas on that base till almost the end though. Terran doesn't need gas in TvP, he needs minerals. That's not true, in end game terran needs all the gas he can get usually. Otherwise you won't get enough ghosts and vikings (you want at least 12+ ghosts, and 2-3 vikings per collossi).
When I get to my third base I usually directly take my 2 gasses there to get up to 6, otherwise there is absolutely no way to win any fight over 160 supply unless the protoss goes a silly army composition or missmicros brutally.
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On May 20 2012 23:13 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 23:08 Plexa wrote:On May 20 2012 23:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 20 2012 23:06 Plexa wrote:On May 20 2012 23:03 BLinD-RawR wrote: classic is the best SC2 terran I've seen so far, its weird. mmm reality beats him out I think. He wasn't that impressive because you need to keep in mind his hidden base was propping up his economy and he could barely keep up with flying. he didn't even get gas on that base till almost the end though. Terran doesn't need gas in TvP, he needs minerals. what about for ghosts, they are heavy on gas.....by next weekend literally everyone will have practiced their vP that it will be so different.
Ghosts are 200/100. I think what he means is, it's very common to see Terrans floating Gas and being completely starved on Minerals late game. Protoss can easily/efficiently dump excess Gas into Templar/Archon. All of the essential TvP units are more mineral heavy (ghost, viking, marine,maruad).
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On May 20 2012 23:13 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 23:08 Plexa wrote:On May 20 2012 23:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 20 2012 23:06 Plexa wrote:On May 20 2012 23:03 BLinD-RawR wrote: classic is the best SC2 terran I've seen so far, its weird. mmm reality beats him out I think. He wasn't that impressive because you need to keep in mind his hidden base was propping up his economy and he could barely keep up with flying. he didn't even get gas on that base till almost the end though. Terran doesn't need gas in TvP, he needs minerals. what about for ghosts, they are heavy on gas.....by next weekend literally everyone will have practiced their vP that it will be so different. Actually, when ghosts went from 100/200 to 150/150 some terran players called it a nerf because they now cost more minerals (which took away from the terrans core army). 4 gases (main/nat) is enough for 3 bases of minerals
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Will be cool to see how these players turn out in a few months, shouldn't be that hard to fix dumb mistakes like stimming your whole control group including several marauders to kill an observer, og to learn that just stimming up a ramp when its 2base vs 2base generally isn't smart unless you are MarineKing. As already mentioned the mapawareness of these players are awesome, and I guess both micro and macro in a new game will take some time.
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An amazing list of people who lost games today: Flash, Jaedong, Soulkey, Hydra, Zero, Leta, Effort, Calm, Bogus, Stats, firebathero, Roro, Last...
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Now that it's all over can we agree that this was a terrible idea?
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On May 20 2012 23:18 BrosephBrostar wrote: Now that it's all over can we agree that this was a terrible idea?
It's only just beginning
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49634 Posts
On May 20 2012 23:16 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 23:13 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 20 2012 23:08 Plexa wrote:On May 20 2012 23:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 20 2012 23:06 Plexa wrote:On May 20 2012 23:03 BLinD-RawR wrote: classic is the best SC2 terran I've seen so far, its weird. mmm reality beats him out I think. He wasn't that impressive because you need to keep in mind his hidden base was propping up his economy and he could barely keep up with flying. he didn't even get gas on that base till almost the end though. Terran doesn't need gas in TvP, he needs minerals. what about for ghosts, they are heavy on gas.....by next weekend literally everyone will have practiced their vP that it will be so different. Actually, when ghosts went from 100/200 to 150/150 some terran players called it a nerf because they now cost more minerals (which took away from the terrans core army). 4 gases (main/nat) is enough for 3 bases of minerals
hmmm, well then the next Sotg will be quite interesting indeed.
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On May 20 2012 23:16 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 23:13 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 20 2012 23:08 Plexa wrote:On May 20 2012 23:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 20 2012 23:06 Plexa wrote:On May 20 2012 23:03 BLinD-RawR wrote: classic is the best SC2 terran I've seen so far, its weird. mmm reality beats him out I think. He wasn't that impressive because you need to keep in mind his hidden base was propping up his economy and he could barely keep up with flying. he didn't even get gas on that base till almost the end though. Terran doesn't need gas in TvP, he needs minerals. what about for ghosts, they are heavy on gas.....by next weekend literally everyone will have practiced their vP that it will be so different. Actually, when ghosts went from 100/200 to 150/150 some terran players called it a nerf because they now cost more minerals (which took away from the terrans core army). 4 gases (main/nat) is enough for 3 bases of minerals
Such a nerf. TvP is so mineral intensive since all your non-gas units get road killed by Immortals and Feedback. :<
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49634 Posts
On May 20 2012 23:18 BrosephBrostar wrote: Now that it's all over can we agree that this was a terrible idea?
its is but we can't do anything about it.
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United Kingdom38150 Posts
On May 20 2012 23:15 sharky246 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 23:11 Dodgin wrote: Thanks to Sayle/Pokebunny/Hotbid/Orb for casting and everyone who watched along with me, it was a long 11 hours but really fun. Goodnight. hot bid wasnt casting
He joined Sayle for the last couple of games when Pokebunny went to bed. Orb joined too.
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