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Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 14:14:02
May 20 2012 14:13 GMT
#6061
Thanks E-Sports TV! and Pokebunny for updating the op all day. I finally have to go do stuff

I hope the BW teams take SC2 seriously, would love to see them keep improving as well as watching quality BW. Think I'd like to see SC2 specialists within the teams instead of encouraging/coercing the current BW masters to play though if they're not really committed to it. Will be interesting to see how it all develops though whatever happens.
Koesader
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands424 Posts
May 20 2012 14:13 GMT
#6062
Not enough vikings, not enough ghosts, overstimmed..
And protoss bossing it up today;
Liquid'TaeJa - Grubby - MVPMarineKing - Liquid'Ret - AxCranK - RedBull.Bomber ~~~ Are You Ready For Bombing?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51382 Posts
May 20 2012 14:13 GMT
#6063
On May 20 2012 23:08 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 23:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 20 2012 23:06 Plexa wrote:
On May 20 2012 23:03 BLinD-RawR wrote:
classic is the best SC2 terran I've seen so far, its weird.

mmm reality beats him out I think. He wasn't that impressive because you need to keep in mind his hidden base was propping up his economy and he could barely keep up with flying.


he didn't even get gas on that base till almost the end though.

Terran doesn't need gas in TvP, he needs minerals.


what about for ghosts, they are heavy on gas.....by next weekend literally everyone will have practiced their vP that it will be so different.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
May 20 2012 14:13 GMT
#6064
Toss is just ridiculously forgiving. So for these guys with their unrefined play, Toss is going to be the easiest by far. Same reasons why Toss is by far the easiest amongst casual and amateur gamers.
LloydPGM
Profile Joined January 2012
85 Posts
May 20 2012 14:14 GMT
#6065
On May 20 2012 23:08 kratos-23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 23:06 LloydPGM wrote:
Classic TvP to finish, terran played well but you can't win a protoss with 200/200 army, so P still undefeated in this SPL. To all BW players going to play sc2, just pick protoss : easy race to master.

no Reality (T) has beaten firebathero (P)


Sry, it's just 9 - 1 for protoss in those sc2 matchs, I was 90% right.
http://video.gamecreds.com/1mggimrsyxc0n/channel/Lloyd
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
May 20 2012 14:14 GMT
#6066
Well gg. Long fucking day o_O. I'm glad that KT at least. You can already feel how horrible the rule is about that every player has to practice both BW and SC2 if they want to play an official Proleague match this season. The standard will be rock bottom no matter how good they are and how much they have evolved their SC2 gameplay. It's just to much and to stressful. =/
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
sharky246
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1197 Posts
May 20 2012 14:15 GMT
#6067
On May 20 2012 23:11 Dodgin wrote:
Thanks to Sayle/Pokebunny/Hotbid/Orb for casting and everyone who watched along with me, it was a long 11 hours but really fun. Goodnight.


hot bid wasnt casting
On January 03 2011 13:14 IdrA wrote: being high on the ladder doesnt get you any closer to your goal. Avoiding practice to protect your rating is absurd. If you want to be good go play 40 games a day and stop thinking about becoming a pro.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 20 2012 14:15 GMT
#6068
today's best game was: Effort vs Flash

i still need to choose my favorite sc1/sc2 team >.<
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
May 20 2012 14:15 GMT
#6069
I'm guessing there will be a lot of PvP's next week.
Theovide
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden914 Posts
May 20 2012 14:15 GMT
#6070
On May 20 2012 23:08 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 23:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 20 2012 23:06 Plexa wrote:
On May 20 2012 23:03 BLinD-RawR wrote:
classic is the best SC2 terran I've seen so far, its weird.

mmm reality beats him out I think. He wasn't that impressive because you need to keep in mind his hidden base was propping up his economy and he could barely keep up with flying.


he didn't even get gas on that base till almost the end though.

Terran doesn't need gas in TvP, he needs minerals.

That's not true, in end game terran needs all the gas he can get usually. Otherwise you won't get enough ghosts and vikings (you want at least 12+ ghosts, and 2-3 vikings per collossi).

When I get to my third base I usually directly take my 2 gasses there to get up to 6, otherwise there is absolutely no way to win any fight over 160 supply unless the protoss goes a silly army composition or missmicros brutally.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
May 20 2012 14:15 GMT
#6071
On May 20 2012 23:13 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 23:08 Plexa wrote:
On May 20 2012 23:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 20 2012 23:06 Plexa wrote:
On May 20 2012 23:03 BLinD-RawR wrote:
classic is the best SC2 terran I've seen so far, its weird.

mmm reality beats him out I think. He wasn't that impressive because you need to keep in mind his hidden base was propping up his economy and he could barely keep up with flying.


he didn't even get gas on that base till almost the end though.

Terran doesn't need gas in TvP, he needs minerals.


what about for ghosts, they are heavy on gas.....by next weekend literally everyone will have practiced their vP that it will be so different.


Ghosts are 200/100. I think what he means is, it's very common to see Terrans floating Gas and being completely starved on Minerals late game. Protoss can easily/efficiently dump excess Gas into Templar/Archon. All of the essential TvP units are more mineral heavy (ghost, viking, marine,maruad).
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 20 2012 14:16 GMT
#6072
On May 20 2012 23:13 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 23:08 Plexa wrote:
On May 20 2012 23:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 20 2012 23:06 Plexa wrote:
On May 20 2012 23:03 BLinD-RawR wrote:
classic is the best SC2 terran I've seen so far, its weird.

mmm reality beats him out I think. He wasn't that impressive because you need to keep in mind his hidden base was propping up his economy and he could barely keep up with flying.


he didn't even get gas on that base till almost the end though.

Terran doesn't need gas in TvP, he needs minerals.


what about for ghosts, they are heavy on gas.....by next weekend literally everyone will have practiced their vP that it will be so different.

Actually, when ghosts went from 100/200 to 150/150 some terran players called it a nerf because they now cost more minerals (which took away from the terrans core army). 4 gases (main/nat) is enough for 3 bases of minerals
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kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
May 20 2012 14:16 GMT
#6073
Will be cool to see how these players turn out in a few months, shouldn't be that hard to fix dumb mistakes like stimming your whole control group including several marauders to kill an observer, og to learn that just stimming up a ramp when its 2base vs 2base generally isn't smart unless you are MarineKing. As already mentioned the mapawareness of these players are awesome, and I guess both micro and macro in a new game will take some time.
"NO" -Has
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 20 2012 14:17 GMT
#6074
An amazing list of people who lost games today:
Flash, Jaedong, Soulkey, Hydra, Zero, Leta, Effort, Calm, Bogus, Stats, firebathero, Roro, Last...
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
BrosephBrostar
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States445 Posts
May 20 2012 14:18 GMT
#6075
Now that it's all over can we agree that this was a terrible idea?
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
May 20 2012 14:19 GMT
#6076
On May 20 2012 23:18 BrosephBrostar wrote:
Now that it's all over can we agree that this was a terrible idea?


It's only just beginning
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51382 Posts
May 20 2012 14:19 GMT
#6077
On May 20 2012 23:16 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 23:13 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 20 2012 23:08 Plexa wrote:
On May 20 2012 23:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 20 2012 23:06 Plexa wrote:
On May 20 2012 23:03 BLinD-RawR wrote:
classic is the best SC2 terran I've seen so far, its weird.

mmm reality beats him out I think. He wasn't that impressive because you need to keep in mind his hidden base was propping up his economy and he could barely keep up with flying.


he didn't even get gas on that base till almost the end though.

Terran doesn't need gas in TvP, he needs minerals.


what about for ghosts, they are heavy on gas.....by next weekend literally everyone will have practiced their vP that it will be so different.

Actually, when ghosts went from 100/200 to 150/150 some terran players called it a nerf because they now cost more minerals (which took away from the terrans core army). 4 gases (main/nat) is enough for 3 bases of minerals


hmmm, well then the next Sotg will be quite interesting indeed.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 14:20:22
May 20 2012 14:20 GMT
#6078
On May 20 2012 23:16 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 23:13 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 20 2012 23:08 Plexa wrote:
On May 20 2012 23:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 20 2012 23:06 Plexa wrote:
On May 20 2012 23:03 BLinD-RawR wrote:
classic is the best SC2 terran I've seen so far, its weird.

mmm reality beats him out I think. He wasn't that impressive because you need to keep in mind his hidden base was propping up his economy and he could barely keep up with flying.


he didn't even get gas on that base till almost the end though.

Terran doesn't need gas in TvP, he needs minerals.


what about for ghosts, they are heavy on gas.....by next weekend literally everyone will have practiced their vP that it will be so different.

Actually, when ghosts went from 100/200 to 150/150 some terran players called it a nerf because they now cost more minerals (which took away from the terrans core army). 4 gases (main/nat) is enough for 3 bases of minerals


Such a nerf. TvP is so mineral intensive since all your non-gas units get road killed by Immortals and Feedback. :<
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Marine/Raven Guide:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=163605
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51382 Posts
May 20 2012 14:20 GMT
#6079
On May 20 2012 23:18 BrosephBrostar wrote:
Now that it's all over can we agree that this was a terrible idea?


its is but we can't do anything about it.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
May 20 2012 14:20 GMT
#6080
On May 20 2012 23:15 sharky246 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 23:11 Dodgin wrote:
Thanks to Sayle/Pokebunny/Hotbid/Orb for casting and everyone who watched along with me, it was a long 11 hours but really fun. Goodnight.


hot bid wasnt casting


He joined Sayle for the last couple of games when Pokebunny went to bed. Orb joined too.
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