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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
May 15 2012 10:39 GMT
#501
That build looks insanely strong.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
May 15 2012 10:40 GMT
#502
On May 15 2012 19:37 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 19:33 KristofferAG wrote:
(Z)BBoongBBoongPrime v (P)MVPGenius
1 - 0


Maps:
Metropolis - (Z)BBoongBBoongPrime
Daybreak
Dual Sight

05.00
(Z)BBoongBBoongPrime spawning as the red zerg in the 7 o'clock position.
(P)MVPGenius spawning as the blue protoss in the 1 o'clock position.

15 Hatchery for BBoong.
Nexus first on 17 for Genius, followed by a Forge.

Gas and Spawning Pool follow-up for B4.
Gateway also down on the wall of Genius, followed by Cannon.

Genius taking double gas in his main, Nexus finishes up.
B4 pulls off gas after reaching 100, and starts Metabolic Boost.

Cybernetics Core started for Genius.


10.00
Warp gate tech and +1 attack started for Genius.
Genius now getting double gas on his Natural.

Third on the way for B4.
Robotics Facility down for Genius.

Lair researching for B4 as he takes 3 Extractors.
5 Gateways added on fo Genius.

Macro hatch, Roach Warren and Evolution Chamber on the way for B4. +1 armor started.
+1 armor started for Genius as well.

Roach Speed researching for B4.
Some zerglings almost manage to take out the Sentries, but forcefields save them.

Warp prism being built by Genius.
B4 already has decent creep spread connecting all bases.


15.00
B4 catches Genius off guard and gets really close to the army of Genius before the forcefields go down, but Genius just has a too big army! The Immortals rip through the Roaches that are trapped by great forcefields.

Genius keeps up the pressure, and B4 keeps up the Roach production. More and more Stalkers are being warped in. Genius is out of forcefields, but there are just far too many Stalkers, and the two Immortals are still alive. The Warp Prism allows Genius to warp in right into the battle.

Genius destroys the remaining Roaches and pushes into the third. As it fall,s B4 calls the GG.

Genius ties it up 1-1!

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tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
May 15 2012 10:40 GMT
#503
Pretty bad by Booongboong not flanking properly there.
kckkryptonite
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1126 Posts
May 15 2012 10:40 GMT
#504
On May 15 2012 19:39 CursivE wrote:
I love wolf and khaldor but the commentating during this push was very grating.


It was pretty off, as Wolf was screaming "Genius has botched this!", it was quite clear after cutting BB's army in half he had the upper hand...
RIP avilo, qxc keyboard 2013, RIP Nathanis keyboard 2014
DiViD
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden222 Posts
May 15 2012 10:40 GMT
#505
Look at that, I didn't think that I could enjoy a protoss 2-base timing attack but that was actually impressive from Genius.
milesfacade
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom799 Posts
May 15 2012 10:40 GMT
#506
It's a bizarre build to face. You think you have overwhelming forces and then your army just disappears :p
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 15 2012 10:40 GMT
#507
On May 15 2012 19:38 Tsubbi wrote:
this build is still so crazy

it counters the stephano mass roach mentality - i.e. only produce units when you absolutely have to otherwise drone up to 60 and spam roaches. What you need to do against the push is pressure it and slow it down to waste forcefields (like that zergling attack early on). To do that you need to have some units to do that, and not be producing units at the last second.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
May 15 2012 10:40 GMT
#508
And the lesson we learned is: against sentry pushes, always flank.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
May 15 2012 10:41 GMT
#509
just curious, did they mention d3 in any way`?
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
May 15 2012 10:41 GMT
#510
That build was always strong, the only way to hold is if either the Protoss fucks up in a big way (like Ace did vs DRG), or if you flank the Protoss army multiple times before he can reach your hatch, and thus force much more FFs.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
May 15 2012 10:41 GMT
#511
On May 15 2012 19:39 KiNGxXx wrote:
B4: "I know he has force fields but maybe if I attack straight into him he will forget to use...damn!"


to be fair he actually did forget to use it the first time
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
May 15 2012 10:41 GMT
#512
Genius micro was definitely not perfect but Khaldor totally out of it when he said Genius botched his attack so that B4 would hold easily. Genius hwaiting !
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
May 15 2012 10:41 GMT
#513
On May 15 2012 19:40 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 19:38 Tsubbi wrote:
this build is still so crazy

it counters the stephano mass roach mentality - i.e. only produce units when you absolutely have to otherwise drone up to 60 and spam roaches. What you need to do against the push is pressure it and slow it down to waste forcefields (like that zergling attack early on). To do that you need to have some units to do that, and not be producing units at the last second.


nono the stephanos build is the best way to play against it, you need to attack the push once its moving out and snipe sentries/waste forcefields, basically not allowing him to get into position
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
May 15 2012 10:42 GMT
#514
On May 15 2012 19:41 Swiv wrote:
just curious, did they mention d3 in any way`?

No, cause B4 > D3
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 15 2012 10:42 GMT
#515
On May 15 2012 19:41 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 19:40 Plexa wrote:
On May 15 2012 19:38 Tsubbi wrote:
this build is still so crazy

it counters the stephano mass roach mentality - i.e. only produce units when you absolutely have to otherwise drone up to 60 and spam roaches. What you need to do against the push is pressure it and slow it down to waste forcefields (like that zergling attack early on). To do that you need to have some units to do that, and not be producing units at the last second.


nono the stephanos build is the best way to play against it, you need to attack the push once its moving out and snipe sentries/waste forcefields, basically not allowing him to get into position

But how can you when the protoss is coming at you around 9:30 when you're just finishing droning?
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
May 15 2012 10:42 GMT
#516
On May 15 2012 19:41 Swiv wrote:
just curious, did they mention d3 in any way`?
basically only to say that not even the new diablo is worth missing the set of games tonight (which is totally valid imo these match-ups are crazy and d3 is bleh)
remember not to think too much and your trip will be numbingly pleasant
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
May 15 2012 10:42 GMT
#517
On May 15 2012 19:41 Swiv wrote:
just curious, did they mention d3 in any way`?


Yes they did, they said you have no reason to miss today's games even if you play D3, either have both window mode or listen to the GSL in the background
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Bumblebees
Profile Joined August 2010
United States328 Posts
May 15 2012 10:43 GMT
#518
On May 15 2012 19:41 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 19:40 Plexa wrote:
On May 15 2012 19:38 Tsubbi wrote:
this build is still so crazy

it counters the stephano mass roach mentality - i.e. only produce units when you absolutely have to otherwise drone up to 60 and spam roaches. What you need to do against the push is pressure it and slow it down to waste forcefields (like that zergling attack early on). To do that you need to have some units to do that, and not be producing units at the last second.


nono the stephanos build is the best way to play against it, you need to attack the push once its moving out and snipe sentries/waste forcefields, basically not allowing him to get into position


Stephano goes ling/infestor if he scouts pushes like this.

So if stephano thinks "stephano style" isn't the proper way to play it then I'm going to suppose he's right.
AbuntuGuntu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1972 Posts
May 15 2012 10:43 GMT
#519
On May 15 2012 19:42 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 19:41 Swiv wrote:
just curious, did they mention d3 in any way`?


Yes they did, they said you have no reason to miss today's games even if you play D3, either have both window mode or listen to the GSL in the background

I feel like the only person who doesn't have D3 right now. Soon it shall be mine...:p
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 15 2012 10:43 GMT
#520
On May 15 2012 19:43 Bumblebees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 19:41 Tsubbi wrote:
On May 15 2012 19:40 Plexa wrote:
On May 15 2012 19:38 Tsubbi wrote:
this build is still so crazy

it counters the stephano mass roach mentality - i.e. only produce units when you absolutely have to otherwise drone up to 60 and spam roaches. What you need to do against the push is pressure it and slow it down to waste forcefields (like that zergling attack early on). To do that you need to have some units to do that, and not be producing units at the last second.


nono the stephanos build is the best way to play against it, you need to attack the push once its moving out and snipe sentries/waste forcefields, basically not allowing him to get into position


Stephano goes ling/infestor if he scouts pushes like this.

So if stephano thinks "stephano style" isn't the proper way to play it then I'm going to suppose he's right.

Ya infestor/ling deals with that push really well, particularly because fungals also silence as well
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