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Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
May 10 2012 09:57 GMT
#1281
Ok mind games, wall in and fast CC, let's see what comes of it
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
May 10 2012 09:57 GMT
#1282
On May 10 2012 18:55 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:54 blade55555 wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:53 Gantritor wrote:
Thanks Blizzard for let us watch the best player in the world forced to allin an average player 'cause TvP is imbalanced in late game.


Even if it wasn't he probably would, people seem to forget how bad MVP's wrists are atm.


Seriously I don't buy this excuse. "His wrists are bad blabla" I doubt it. He had surgery to fix it? If the surgery wasn't successful he would try another one or stop playing and resting. I'm sure he is fine and it's just a bad excuse.

Lol.. He doesn't need an excuse to play builds that win.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
ypslala
Profile Joined April 2011
Burma545 Posts
May 10 2012 09:57 GMT
#1283
On May 10 2012 18:55 Angel_ wrote:
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On May 10 2012 18:53 ypslala wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:49 Rokoz wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:47 soulist wrote:
For the people that say Mvp is playing cheesy. That's what he has to do. Terran does not have an answer for Protoss late game, so they must win early to mid-game. Mvp is the smartest player in the world and he has been showing it.


I agree.

Protoss complain that we need to adapt to the current TvP meta-game.

Then MvP shows how to play TvP and Protoss whines again.


and toss dosn't have an answer for terran early midgame. so who has the advantage?


yeah they do.
they just don't when they're currently trying to take thier third before the 9 minute mark or going colossi with double upgrades and attempting to throw down a twilight. toss are greedy as shit right now to push for the lategame where they have a clear advantage. and they're getting punished for it. and itll swing again when they pull back a little bit.

what shoud toss do? waiting for emp ready + stim at minute 10 with pure gateway units? or trying to get and eco advantage to keep a chance alive?
best SC2 game of aaaaaaall time: vibe vs avilo (don't miss the end!!): https://youtu.be/mygH92WzKV4
Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
May 10 2012 09:57 GMT
#1284
The mind games comes in to play now

MVP is so good
Fall down 9 times, Get up 10.
taldarimAltar
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
973 Posts
May 10 2012 09:57 GMT
#1285
1rax cc by mvp, 2 base allin before collosus incoming?
Shaddar
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
675 Posts
May 10 2012 09:57 GMT
#1286
Alright come on Parting, you can do this!
Why is Check 6 afraid of Infinity Seven? Because Infinity Seven Team 8 Day [9]
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
May 10 2012 09:57 GMT
#1287
Foreigners will never understand Starcraft if they keep crying.
Mmm, what to watch.
DrunkenTemplar
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia647 Posts
May 10 2012 09:58 GMT
#1288
On May 10 2012 18:53 KiNGxXx wrote:
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On May 10 2012 18:51 Sylverin wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:48 Audemed wrote:
MC does 2 base timing = FUCKING NOOB PROTOSS GET SOME SKILL QQ QQ QQ

Squirtle does colossus timing = ZOMG FUCKING PROTOSS SO OP COLOSSUS OP OP OP

MVP does 2 base SCV all in = OMG BEAUTIFULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

MVP does 1 base SCV all in = OMG BEST PLAYER EVERRRRRRRRRR

God I love this community.

So...fucking.....true....x.x

You guys missed all the hate MVP got for cheesing Naniwa? So, you are wrong!


He's not wrong though, just didn't say both sides. Every time someone pulls this shit in gsl there's both polar opposites of retardedness in full force
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 09:58:59
May 10 2012 09:58 GMT
#1289
On May 10 2012 18:56 KonohaFlash wrote:
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On May 10 2012 18:55 DwD wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:54 blade55555 wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:53 Gantritor wrote:
Thanks Blizzard for let us watch the best player in the world forced to allin an average player 'cause TvP is imbalanced in late game.


Even if it wasn't he probably would, people seem to forget how bad MVP's wrists are atm.


Seriously I don't buy this excuse. "His wrists are bad blabla" I doubt it. He had surgery to fix it? If the surgery wasn't successful he would try another one or stop playing and resting. I'm sure he is fine and it's just a bad excuse.

So basically you're saying he suddenly lost the skill he had when he was dominating everyone, and is now using RSI as an excuse so people don't find out he's become a bad player? The levels people will go.


I thought doctors couldnt find what was wrong therefore no surgery and some old progamer asked him to check cervical disk, which he doesnt have time recently to do?
Also, if he had surgery people would know, he'd be out of the game for a couple months to recover

Also, god himself cheeses a lot in BW, doesnt make people stop calling him God
Stop procrastinating
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
May 10 2012 09:58 GMT
#1290
On May 10 2012 18:54 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:48 Audemed wrote:
MC does 2 base timing = FUCKING NOOB PROTOSS GET SOME SKILL QQ QQ QQ

Squirtle does colossus timing = ZOMG FUCKING PROTOSS SO OP COLOSSUS OP OP OP

MVP does 2 base SCV all in = OMG BEAUTIFULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

MVP does 1 base SCV all in = OMG BEST PLAYER EVERRRRRRRRRR

God I love this community.


There's a reason for that, you know.

MC's play over the last 2 years has consistently been about trying to discover new timings and then exploit them until people adapt to be able to defend them, then rinse and repeat. He's literally the ForGG of Starcraft 2.

MVP's play IS reactive to the current metagame and actual Protoss timings, but it is not his trademark playstyle in any way, hence he doesn't have that kind of a reputation.

I get it that you try to make it all about the races, but the majority of TL ain't Terran. I myself am a Protoss player, and I've cringed at MC's play since he first started getting results. -_-


Massive oversimplification of MC's play. What about the IEM Grand Finals, where he won and played standard every single game? What about his PvZ at the moment, which is good enough to 3-0 DRG, in which he defends roaches then Mutas then BL/Infestor before winning? What about his most recent PvPs against Parting, in which he went up to Mothership/VR/Colossus?
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
May 10 2012 09:58 GMT
#1291
On May 10 2012 18:56 bgx wrote:
Hey MVP is just playing to the strenghts of his race If Parting cannot hold this he is not meant to be the champion, period.

Well, judging from results, you are right. Protoss are not meant to be champions.
you no take candle
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
May 10 2012 09:58 GMT
#1292
On May 10 2012 18:52 Femari wrote:
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On May 10 2012 18:51 setzer wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:47 Femari wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:45 Belha wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:43 Zorgaz wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:42 LeLfe wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:41 r4pture wrote:
When did MVP become such a cheesy player?


at the very moment Blizzard decided he shall not play late game vP



He wants to win...

Blizzard themselves said Terran needs to kill P in Early/Mid game


I would love to see T late game buffed. BUT early/mid PvT should be rebalanced too.
I don't read any terran complaining about that...

The whole matchup needs to be rebalanced. Take away our early game advantages and make it more equal, buff Terran lategame to make it equal there.

That's what I want


So you want terran and protoss to be equal at all points in the game? Why don't we just get rid of two races so we don't have to ever again worry about balance.

So you want it to become impossible for races to kill each other in a certain part of the game?


Each race should have strengths and weaknesses at different points in the game that make it more difficult, but definitely not impossible, to secure a win at those points. Current statistics show it is not impossible to beat protoss late game however it is pretty damn hard to if terrans don't take advantage of their strengths throughout the early and midgame and punish protoss players who play extremely economically greedy.
masakenji
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia415 Posts
May 10 2012 09:58 GMT
#1293
home come most of the whiners are European? oh right... naniwa...
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
May 10 2012 09:58 GMT
#1294
On May 10 2012 18:57 padfoota wrote:
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On May 10 2012 18:55 Rulker wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:55 Pazuzu wrote:
so much QQ! o.O

whats qq mean bro?



QQ = crying
as in Q_Q
Minor history came from wc3 because altQQ = hotkey to leave game = rage quit.
Pretty sure a lot of people use it without wc3 context anyways (esp asia)


wow, learn something new everyday, ty for the knowledge bomb, played wc3 and didnt even realize that
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
lamehater
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden100 Posts
May 10 2012 09:58 GMT
#1295
On May 10 2012 18:55 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:54 blade55555 wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:53 Gantritor wrote:
Thanks Blizzard for let us watch the best player in the world forced to allin an average player 'cause TvP is imbalanced in late game.


Even if it wasn't he probably would, people seem to forget how bad MVP's wrists are atm.


Seriously I don't buy this excuse. "His wrists are bad blabla" I doubt it. He had surgery to fix it? If the surgery wasn't successful he would try another one or stop playing and resting. I'm sure he is fine and it's just a bad excuse.


"I'm sure he's fine." Are you stupid? MVP's wrists are not fine, and that is not a secret. You do understand that a surgery doesn't necessarily fix all problems. MVP obviously wants to play, despite having troubles with his wrists. There's no reason, no reason whatsoever to talk about a bad excuse.
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
May 10 2012 09:58 GMT
#1296
On May 10 2012 18:57 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:55 DwD wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:54 blade55555 wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:53 Gantritor wrote:
Thanks Blizzard for let us watch the best player in the world forced to allin an average player 'cause TvP is imbalanced in late game.


Even if it wasn't he probably would, people seem to forget how bad MVP's wrists are atm.


Seriously I don't buy this excuse. "His wrists are bad blabla" I doubt it. He had surgery to fix it? If the surgery wasn't successful he would try another one or stop playing and resting. I'm sure he is fine and it's just a bad excuse.


He is far from fine. His wrists are completely fucked and he hasn't had any real treatment yet. He is waiting until after GSL so he can rest and let them heal properly.

Excuse? Get the fuck out

Also according to mvp it was a spinal problem that is preventing him from exerting force on his wrists (pretty sure). So yes, his wrists are FUCKED atm. apparently a brood war pro had the same problem and MVP was talking to him about it.
Maruprime.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 09:59:18
May 10 2012 09:58 GMT
#1297
On May 10 2012 18:55 FidoDido wrote:
if MVP wins this series and then the finals, I foresee more nerfs inc from Blizzard on Terran. Maybe they'll actually change the bunker next patch.



if mvp wins another gsl over hero/squirtle, I'm going to be pretty dejected and will need to take a break from starcraft for a while. I don't hate mvp or anything but FFS NEED A PROTOSS HOPE PLS.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
May 10 2012 09:59 GMT
#1298
ok Mvp, time to FINISH HIM
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
May 10 2012 09:59 GMT
#1299
On May 10 2012 18:57 Juliette wrote:
Mvp vs PartinG

Set 1
Set 2

Set 3:
Red T1 LG-IMMvp <Cloud Kingdom> Pink P7 ST_PartinG

Gasless barracks FE for Mvp, Gate -> Nexus -> Gas -> Core for PartinG
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 09:59:46
May 10 2012 09:59 GMT
#1300
On May 10 2012 18:56 virtu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:50 iky43210 wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:48 Lunchador wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:46 bittman wrote:
I'm so sick of the fact that our audience appears to dislike a high tension all-in game over long single-a-move battle macro games.

I mean, a close macro game is the best, don't get me wrong. But it seems TL will give a good rating to a long game with 1 battle than a short game with a close battle. Are minerals being mined that exciting? =/


Exactly. I was holding my breath for both players on the push. I thought it was a rather exciting and good match.


I was practically shaking watching the interaction between banshee, bunker, etc with parting's stalkers and immortal control. It was quite tense

but we can see mvp just has better awareness and control. parting lost a few stalker and zealots to hold command without doing anything


Quite the opposite here, I was cringing at the ease with which MVP picked off units, forced parting into siege shots for practically no loss, and the 2 bad (forced) engagements, not killing the rocks at the top etc, just high pressure leading parting into making multiple mistakes that he can't afford to against the likes of MVP, even when he's chain cheesing probably due to his wrists.


that's the point. parting was not able to keep up with mvp's aggression cause he was not able to defend the moving tanks/marines while stopping the banshee's harassment. Just didn't have the apm

The interaction between protoss shield regen, marines, pheonix, and banshees and back tank depends alot on how much poking terran does while moving up. In contrast with parting controls with his units and manage shield regen and not take too much tank shots
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