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On May 10 2012 18:59 Juliette wrote:Gasless barracks FE for Mvp, Gate -> Nexus -> Gas -> Core for PartinG Mvp is poking with a marine and an scv, attacking a pylon on PartinG's lowground, but leaves when a zealot comes out.
5:00 Mvp adds 2 barracks (3 total) and 2 gas. PartinG adds 2 gates (3 total) and a gas for a total of 2.
Mvp also adds on a tech lab.
6:00 Stim begins, a robotics begins.
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On May 10 2012 19:00 zocktol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 18:59 JoeSchmoe wrote:On May 10 2012 18:57 Exarl25 wrote:On May 10 2012 18:55 DwD wrote:On May 10 2012 18:54 blade55555 wrote:On May 10 2012 18:53 Gantritor wrote: Thanks Blizzard for let us watch the best player in the world forced to allin an average player 'cause TvP is imbalanced in late game. Even if it wasn't he probably would, people seem to forget how bad MVP's wrists are atm. Seriously I don't buy this excuse. "His wrists are bad blabla" I doubt it. He had surgery to fix it? If the surgery wasn't successful he would try another one or stop playing and resting. I'm sure he is fine and it's just a bad excuse. He is far from fine. His wrists are completely fucked and he hasn't had any real treatment yet. He is waiting until after GSL so he can rest and let them heal properly. Excuse? Get the fuck out excuse or not. Ts on the korean ladder have been relying on aggressive early-mid game play. Blizzard needs to fix this. Their philosophy of Ts requiring to pressure early-mid game to mitigate P late game advantage is silly. Explain to me why it is silly in TvP and not silly in TvZ?
Because Protoss players want to be left alone for as long as it takes for them to roll you over in the lategame. c:
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Parting has 100% win rate for the next 3 maps so there is still hope
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On May 10 2012 19:00 zocktol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 18:59 JoeSchmoe wrote:On May 10 2012 18:57 Exarl25 wrote:On May 10 2012 18:55 DwD wrote:On May 10 2012 18:54 blade55555 wrote:On May 10 2012 18:53 Gantritor wrote: Thanks Blizzard for let us watch the best player in the world forced to allin an average player 'cause TvP is imbalanced in late game. Even if it wasn't he probably would, people seem to forget how bad MVP's wrists are atm. Seriously I don't buy this excuse. "His wrists are bad blabla" I doubt it. He had surgery to fix it? If the surgery wasn't successful he would try another one or stop playing and resting. I'm sure he is fine and it's just a bad excuse. He is far from fine. His wrists are completely fucked and he hasn't had any real treatment yet. He is waiting until after GSL so he can rest and let them heal properly. Excuse? Get the fuck out excuse or not. Ts on the korean ladder have been relying on aggressive early-mid game play. Blizzard needs to fix this. Their philosophy of Ts requiring to pressure early-mid game to mitigate P late game advantage is silly. Explain to me why it is silly in TvP and not silly in TvZ? It's not in TvZ? There's your difference.
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On May 10 2012 18:58 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 18:54 Talin wrote:On May 10 2012 18:48 Audemed wrote: MC does 2 base timing = FUCKING NOOB PROTOSS GET SOME SKILL QQ QQ QQ
Squirtle does colossus timing = ZOMG FUCKING PROTOSS SO OP COLOSSUS OP OP OP
MVP does 2 base SCV all in = OMG BEAUTIFULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
MVP does 1 base SCV all in = OMG BEST PLAYER EVERRRRRRRRRR
God I love this community. There's a reason for that, you know. MC's play over the last 2 years has consistently been about trying to discover new timings and then exploit them until people adapt to be able to defend them, then rinse and repeat. He's literally the ForGG of Starcraft 2. MVP's play IS reactive to the current metagame and actual Protoss timings, but it is not his trademark playstyle in any way, hence he doesn't have that kind of a reputation. I get it that you try to make it all about the races, but the majority of TL ain't Terran. I myself am a Protoss player, and I've cringed at MC's play since he first started getting results. -_- Massive oversimplification of MC's play. What about the IEM Grand Finals, where he won and played standard every single game? What about his PvZ at the moment, which is good enough to 3-0 DRG, in which he defends roaches then Mutas then BL/Infestor before winning? What about his most recent PvPs against Parting, in which he went up to Mothership/VR/Colossus?
Every top player can play any kind of game at a reasonably high level, so yeah there's always going to be exceptions or he wouldn't be getting results consistently. That doesn't exactly negate his signature playstyle in PvZ and for the most part PvT.
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Now MVP will play a macro game, Parting will maybe win it. MVP will next cheese again just like he did with Naniwa and will win and people will say he cheesed because he has no chance in late game, not because he actually meta games.
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On May 10 2012 19:00 Waxangel wrote: hey it's a repeat of game one so far
You should change your name to Laxangel to compliment your snorlax icon.
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i dont know what to think about the people who seriously wants another terran champion. Its been a year since toss won a GSL, you dont think its about time that toss get some sort of comeback?
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On May 10 2012 19:00 zocktol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 18:59 JoeSchmoe wrote:On May 10 2012 18:57 Exarl25 wrote:On May 10 2012 18:55 DwD wrote:On May 10 2012 18:54 blade55555 wrote:On May 10 2012 18:53 Gantritor wrote: Thanks Blizzard for let us watch the best player in the world forced to allin an average player 'cause TvP is imbalanced in late game. Even if it wasn't he probably would, people seem to forget how bad MVP's wrists are atm. Seriously I don't buy this excuse. "His wrists are bad blabla" I doubt it. He had surgery to fix it? If the surgery wasn't successful he would try another one or stop playing and resting. I'm sure he is fine and it's just a bad excuse. He is far from fine. His wrists are completely fucked and he hasn't had any real treatment yet. He is waiting until after GSL so he can rest and let them heal properly. Excuse? Get the fuck out excuse or not. Ts on the korean ladder have been relying on aggressive early-mid game play. Blizzard needs to fix this. Their philosophy of Ts requiring to pressure early-mid game to mitigate P late game advantage is silly. Explain to me why it is silly in TvP and not silly in TvZ?
Because Blizzard's design philosophy is that Terrans essentially HAVE to cheese or do a massive or several timing attacks in order to win. Protoss max army controlled correctly will absolutely decimate a Terran max army.
Blizz themselves said that Terran are meant to do what Mvp is doing right now. That's pretty flawed.
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On May 10 2012 19:00 zocktol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 18:59 JoeSchmoe wrote:On May 10 2012 18:57 Exarl25 wrote:On May 10 2012 18:55 DwD wrote:On May 10 2012 18:54 blade55555 wrote:On May 10 2012 18:53 Gantritor wrote: Thanks Blizzard for let us watch the best player in the world forced to allin an average player 'cause TvP is imbalanced in late game. Even if it wasn't he probably would, people seem to forget how bad MVP's wrists are atm. Seriously I don't buy this excuse. "His wrists are bad blabla" I doubt it. He had surgery to fix it? If the surgery wasn't successful he would try another one or stop playing and resting. I'm sure he is fine and it's just a bad excuse. He is far from fine. His wrists are completely fucked and he hasn't had any real treatment yet. He is waiting until after GSL so he can rest and let them heal properly. Excuse? Get the fuck out excuse or not. Ts on the korean ladder have been relying on aggressive early-mid game play. Blizzard needs to fix this. Their philosophy of Ts requiring to pressure early-mid game to mitigate P late game advantage is silly. Explain to me why it is silly in TvP and not silly in TvZ?
because the problem doesn't exist in TvZ (watch polt/stephano play macro games)
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On May 10 2012 18:58 masakenji wrote: home come most of the whiners are European? oh right... naniwa... How come Australians never whine? oh right....no good players...
Really, what you want to say. Do you think all Europeans like naniwa and hates MVP now. LOL No!
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I'm not sure if Parting has what it takes. He's looking very shaky. I might have to re-allocate my brotoss hopes to Hero.
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On May 10 2012 18:59 JoeSchmoe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 18:57 Exarl25 wrote:On May 10 2012 18:55 DwD wrote:On May 10 2012 18:54 blade55555 wrote:On May 10 2012 18:53 Gantritor wrote: Thanks Blizzard for let us watch the best player in the world forced to allin an average player 'cause TvP is imbalanced in late game. Even if it wasn't he probably would, people seem to forget how bad MVP's wrists are atm. Seriously I don't buy this excuse. "His wrists are bad blabla" I doubt it. He had surgery to fix it? If the surgery wasn't successful he would try another one or stop playing and resting. I'm sure he is fine and it's just a bad excuse. He is far from fine. His wrists are completely fucked and he hasn't had any real treatment yet. He is waiting until after GSL so he can rest and let them heal properly. Excuse? Get the fuck out excuse or not. Ts on the korean ladder have been relying on aggressive early-mid game play. Blizzard needs to fix this. Their philosophy of Ts requiring to pressure early-mid game to mitigate P late game advantage is silly.
its fine. someone will figure out late game tvp eventually, just let it develop
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Exact builds from Game one :/
Gogo Scv power!
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On May 10 2012 19:01 sc2holar wrote: i dont know what to think about the people who seriously wants another terran champion. Its been a year since toss won a GSL, you dont think its about time that toss get some sort of comeback?
nah . I would rather MVP win 4th one!!
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seems to be heading toward a macro game, parting won't lose this
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grammar artosis grammar! not second colossi, its second colossus!!
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Lord_J
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I love MVP's decision to clear out rocks like that.
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Mvp expanding behind it. He must've heard people whining.
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I wish Artosis would do a little more build order analysis. Not a huge deal, I just feel like sometimes I miss what the timings and setup of player's builds are.
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