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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
May 10 2012 10:01 GMT
#1321
On May 10 2012 18:59 Juliette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:57 Juliette wrote:
Mvp vs PartinG

Set 1
Set 2

Set 3:
Red T1 LG-IMMvp <Cloud Kingdom> Pink P7 ST_PartinG

Gasless barracks FE for Mvp, Gate -> Nexus -> Gas -> Core for PartinG

Mvp is poking with a marine and an scv, attacking a pylon on PartinG's lowground, but leaves when a zealot comes out.

5:00 Mvp adds 2 barracks (3 total) and 2 gas.
PartinG adds 2 gates (3 total) and a gas for a total of 2.

Mvp also adds on a tech lab.

6:00 Stim begins, a robotics begins.
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
lamehater
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden100 Posts
May 10 2012 10:01 GMT
#1322
On May 10 2012 19:00 zocktol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:59 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:57 Exarl25 wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:55 DwD wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:54 blade55555 wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:53 Gantritor wrote:
Thanks Blizzard for let us watch the best player in the world forced to allin an average player 'cause TvP is imbalanced in late game.


Even if it wasn't he probably would, people seem to forget how bad MVP's wrists are atm.


Seriously I don't buy this excuse. "His wrists are bad blabla" I doubt it. He had surgery to fix it? If the surgery wasn't successful he would try another one or stop playing and resting. I'm sure he is fine and it's just a bad excuse.


He is far from fine. His wrists are completely fucked and he hasn't had any real treatment yet. He is waiting until after GSL so he can rest and let them heal properly.

Excuse? Get the fuck out


excuse or not. Ts on the korean ladder have been relying on aggressive early-mid game play. Blizzard needs to fix this. Their philosophy of Ts requiring to pressure early-mid game to mitigate P late game advantage is silly.


Explain to me why it is silly in TvP and not silly in TvZ?


Because Protoss players want to be left alone for as long as it takes for them to roll you over in the lategame. c:
OMGKEI
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia590 Posts
May 10 2012 10:01 GMT
#1323
Parting has 100% win rate for the next 3 maps so there is still hope
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
May 10 2012 10:01 GMT
#1324
On May 10 2012 19:00 zocktol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:59 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:57 Exarl25 wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:55 DwD wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:54 blade55555 wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:53 Gantritor wrote:
Thanks Blizzard for let us watch the best player in the world forced to allin an average player 'cause TvP is imbalanced in late game.


Even if it wasn't he probably would, people seem to forget how bad MVP's wrists are atm.


Seriously I don't buy this excuse. "His wrists are bad blabla" I doubt it. He had surgery to fix it? If the surgery wasn't successful he would try another one or stop playing and resting. I'm sure he is fine and it's just a bad excuse.


He is far from fine. His wrists are completely fucked and he hasn't had any real treatment yet. He is waiting until after GSL so he can rest and let them heal properly.

Excuse? Get the fuck out


excuse or not. Ts on the korean ladder have been relying on aggressive early-mid game play. Blizzard needs to fix this. Their philosophy of Ts requiring to pressure early-mid game to mitigate P late game advantage is silly.


Explain to me why it is silly in TvP and not silly in TvZ?

It's not in TvZ? There's your difference.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
May 10 2012 10:01 GMT
#1325
On May 10 2012 18:58 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:54 Talin wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:48 Audemed wrote:
MC does 2 base timing = FUCKING NOOB PROTOSS GET SOME SKILL QQ QQ QQ

Squirtle does colossus timing = ZOMG FUCKING PROTOSS SO OP COLOSSUS OP OP OP

MVP does 2 base SCV all in = OMG BEAUTIFULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

MVP does 1 base SCV all in = OMG BEST PLAYER EVERRRRRRRRRR

God I love this community.


There's a reason for that, you know.

MC's play over the last 2 years has consistently been about trying to discover new timings and then exploit them until people adapt to be able to defend them, then rinse and repeat. He's literally the ForGG of Starcraft 2.

MVP's play IS reactive to the current metagame and actual Protoss timings, but it is not his trademark playstyle in any way, hence he doesn't have that kind of a reputation.

I get it that you try to make it all about the races, but the majority of TL ain't Terran. I myself am a Protoss player, and I've cringed at MC's play since he first started getting results. -_-


Massive oversimplification of MC's play. What about the IEM Grand Finals, where he won and played standard every single game? What about his PvZ at the moment, which is good enough to 3-0 DRG, in which he defends roaches then Mutas then BL/Infestor before winning? What about his most recent PvPs against Parting, in which he went up to Mothership/VR/Colossus?


Every top player can play any kind of game at a reasonably high level, so yeah there's always going to be exceptions or he wouldn't be getting results consistently. That doesn't exactly negate his signature playstyle in PvZ and for the most part PvT.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
May 10 2012 10:01 GMT
#1326
Now MVP will play a macro game, Parting will maybe win it. MVP will next cheese again just like he did with Naniwa and will win and people will say he cheesed because he has no chance in late game, not because he actually meta games.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
May 10 2012 10:01 GMT
#1327
On May 10 2012 19:00 Waxangel wrote:
hey it's a repeat of game one so far


You should change your name to Laxangel to compliment your snorlax icon.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
May 10 2012 10:01 GMT
#1328
i dont know what to think about the people who seriously wants another terran champion. Its been a year since toss won a GSL, you dont think its about time that toss get some sort of comeback?
you no take candle
Ceazyface
Profile Joined March 2012
33 Posts
May 10 2012 10:01 GMT
#1329
On May 10 2012 19:00 zocktol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:59 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:57 Exarl25 wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:55 DwD wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:54 blade55555 wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:53 Gantritor wrote:
Thanks Blizzard for let us watch the best player in the world forced to allin an average player 'cause TvP is imbalanced in late game.


Even if it wasn't he probably would, people seem to forget how bad MVP's wrists are atm.


Seriously I don't buy this excuse. "His wrists are bad blabla" I doubt it. He had surgery to fix it? If the surgery wasn't successful he would try another one or stop playing and resting. I'm sure he is fine and it's just a bad excuse.


He is far from fine. His wrists are completely fucked and he hasn't had any real treatment yet. He is waiting until after GSL so he can rest and let them heal properly.

Excuse? Get the fuck out


excuse or not. Ts on the korean ladder have been relying on aggressive early-mid game play. Blizzard needs to fix this. Their philosophy of Ts requiring to pressure early-mid game to mitigate P late game advantage is silly.


Explain to me why it is silly in TvP and not silly in TvZ?


Because Blizzard's design philosophy is that Terrans essentially HAVE to cheese or do a massive or several timing attacks in order to win. Protoss max army controlled correctly will absolutely decimate a Terran max army.

Blizz themselves said that Terran are meant to do what Mvp is doing right now. That's pretty flawed.
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 10:02:15
May 10 2012 10:01 GMT
#1330
On May 10 2012 19:00 zocktol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:59 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:57 Exarl25 wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:55 DwD wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:54 blade55555 wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:53 Gantritor wrote:
Thanks Blizzard for let us watch the best player in the world forced to allin an average player 'cause TvP is imbalanced in late game.


Even if it wasn't he probably would, people seem to forget how bad MVP's wrists are atm.


Seriously I don't buy this excuse. "His wrists are bad blabla" I doubt it. He had surgery to fix it? If the surgery wasn't successful he would try another one or stop playing and resting. I'm sure he is fine and it's just a bad excuse.


He is far from fine. His wrists are completely fucked and he hasn't had any real treatment yet. He is waiting until after GSL so he can rest and let them heal properly.

Excuse? Get the fuck out


excuse or not. Ts on the korean ladder have been relying on aggressive early-mid game play. Blizzard needs to fix this. Their philosophy of Ts requiring to pressure early-mid game to mitigate P late game advantage is silly.


Explain to me why it is silly in TvP and not silly in TvZ?


because the problem doesn't exist in TvZ (watch polt/stephano play macro games)
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
May 10 2012 10:01 GMT
#1331
On May 10 2012 18:58 masakenji wrote:
home come most of the whiners are European? oh right... naniwa...

How come Australians never whine? oh right....no good players...

Really, what you want to say. Do you think all Europeans like naniwa and hates MVP now. LOL No!
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Chandra
Profile Joined July 2011
United States123 Posts
May 10 2012 10:01 GMT
#1332
I'm not sure if Parting has what it takes. He's looking very shaky. I might have to re-allocate my brotoss hopes to Hero.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
May 10 2012 10:01 GMT
#1333
On May 10 2012 18:59 JoeSchmoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 18:57 Exarl25 wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:55 DwD wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:54 blade55555 wrote:
On May 10 2012 18:53 Gantritor wrote:
Thanks Blizzard for let us watch the best player in the world forced to allin an average player 'cause TvP is imbalanced in late game.


Even if it wasn't he probably would, people seem to forget how bad MVP's wrists are atm.


Seriously I don't buy this excuse. "His wrists are bad blabla" I doubt it. He had surgery to fix it? If the surgery wasn't successful he would try another one or stop playing and resting. I'm sure he is fine and it's just a bad excuse.


He is far from fine. His wrists are completely fucked and he hasn't had any real treatment yet. He is waiting until after GSL so he can rest and let them heal properly.

Excuse? Get the fuck out


excuse or not. Ts on the korean ladder have been relying on aggressive early-mid game play. Blizzard needs to fix this. Their philosophy of Ts requiring to pressure early-mid game to mitigate P late game advantage is silly.


its fine. someone will figure out late game tvp eventually, just let it develop
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
May 10 2012 10:02 GMT
#1334
Exact builds from Game one :/

Gogo Scv power!
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 10 2012 10:02 GMT
#1335
On May 10 2012 19:01 sc2holar wrote:
i dont know what to think about the people who seriously wants another terran champion. Its been a year since toss won a GSL, you dont think its about time that toss get some sort of comeback?


nah . I would rather MVP win 4th one!!
When I think of something else, something will go here
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
May 10 2012 10:02 GMT
#1336
seems to be heading toward a macro game, parting won't lose this
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
May 10 2012 10:02 GMT
#1337
grammar artosis grammar! not second colossi, its second colossus!!
Lord_J
Profile Joined April 2011
Kenya1085 Posts
May 10 2012 10:02 GMT
#1338
I love MVP's decision to clear out rocks like that.
No relation to Monsieur J.
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
May 10 2012 10:02 GMT
#1339
Mvp expanding behind it. He must've heard people whining.
Mmm, what to watch.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
May 10 2012 10:02 GMT
#1340
I wish Artosis would do a little more build order analysis. Not a huge deal, I just feel like sometimes I miss what the timings and setup of player's builds are.
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