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Psyclon
Bulgaria2443 Posts
 What he does vs protoss seems very simple - establish 3 bases, make enough drones, start infinite roach production, profit. Why is it so hard for other pro zergs to do this? And his ZvT - i did not see the games vs Kas because i had to get up early in the morning, but come on, 4:0 vs the Destroyer? I expected him to win, but a cleen sweep, srsly? <3 Stephano!!!!! | ||
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Usul.775
Singapore115 Posts
On May 03 2012 10:34 GharChile wrote: Where can I find the VODs? Right there: http://www.twitch.tv/taketvpro/videos + Show Spoiler + Happy birthday! | ||
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Malaz
Germany1257 Posts
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rEalGuapo
Germany832 Posts
On May 03 2012 18:34 Psyclon wrote: For European players the idea of facing Stephano probably feels like taking a knife to a machine-gun fight What he does vs protoss seems very simple - establish 3 bases, make enough drones, start infinite roach production, profit. Why is it so hard for other pro zergs to do this? And his ZvT - i did not see the games vs Kas because i had to get up early in the morning, but come on, 4:0 vs the Destroyer? I expected him to win, but a cleen sweep, srsly? <3 Stephano!!!!! Because other Zergs say that Roaches are completely useless vs P. Ask freaking IdrA he just says that Protoss is so OP and you can only ever attack with Infester Broodlords.. I really hope that a ton of Zergs start doing Stephano style and Roaches will get nerfed.. | ||
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Ethi
Germany275 Posts
The word "halt" is included in every single sentence of monchi and Take is using it very often too. Also delphi and hasu have tendences to overuse it. This is quite annoying and maybe you two can focus a bit on not to overuse these filling words. | ||
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emis
Estonia409 Posts
On May 03 2012 20:22 rEalGuapo wrote: Because other Zergs say that Roaches are completely useless vs P. Ask freaking IdrA he just says that Protoss is so OP and you can only ever attack with Infester Broodlords.. I really hope that a ton of Zergs start doing Stephano style and Roaches will get nerfed.. You want a Diablo III beta key? Dude, I've got some bad news. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10743 Posts
On May 03 2012 20:42 Ethi wrote: Little feedback on Takes and monchis german casting: The word "halt" is included in every single sentence of monchi and Take is using it very often too. Also delphi and hasu have tendences to overuse it. This is quite annoying and maybe you two can focus a bit on not to overuse these filling words. I did not notice did at all? Could be possible but it does not seem dramatic? | ||
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Ethi
Germany275 Posts
On May 03 2012 21:02 Velr wrote: I did not notice did at all? Could be possible but it does not seem dramatic? Rewatch a vod and you'll notice it for sure. At least now ;-) Example: http://de.twitch.tv/taketv/b/316932741 | ||
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wildstyle1337
Poland514 Posts
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On May 03 2012 21:13 wildstyle1337 wrote: Stephano makes roaches looks op, 12 min 200/200 supply 60 roaches that cost 75 minerals and have 140 hp, It is impossible for toss to take 3rd That so called 12min roach push is not invincible. Just make a tight wall at your third with cannons. Sentries+ Immortals+ Stalkers stomp that easily. You should watch how korean protoss stomp that build. Watch Hero vs Stephano in EG Cup or even MC vs Stephano Showmatches . They will show you how to deal with those pushes. | ||
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Champloo
Germany1850 Posts
On April 24 2012 02:30 TaKeTV wrote: Also, WE have three other big announcements, Which will be kept secretly until the 1st of May this year. Anyone caught these announcements btw? | ||
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On May 03 2012 21:36 FakeDeath wrote: That so called 12min roach push is not invincible. Just make a tight wall at your third with cannons. Sentries+ Immortals+ Stalkers stomp that easily. You should watch how korean protoss stomp that build. Watch Hero vs Stephano in EG Cup or even MC vs Stephano Showmatches . They will show you how to deal with those pushes. HerO vs. Stephano 3rd Game was won on a map particularly good for protoss against macro zergs, on which hero has only lost 1 game in his entire career (against aLive). So that's (somewhat) irrelevant. And MC did mostly 2 bases timing which appears to be the best solution so far. But without MC forcefields a protoss is almost always all-in, which proves there is still room for improvements. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
On May 03 2012 19:23 Usul.775 wrote: Right there: http://www.twitch.tv/taketvpro/videos + Show Spoiler + Happy birthday! I don't see a way to change quality, and the VODs seem to be in 1080 or at least 720p, and my comp begins too lag -.- Is there a way to switch quality that I'm not seeing? | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On May 03 2012 21:36 FakeDeath wrote: That so called 12min roach push is not invincible. Just make a tight wall at your third with cannons. Sentries+ Immortals+ Stalkers stomp that easily. You should watch how korean protoss stomp that build. Watch Hero vs Stephano in EG Cup or even MC vs Stephano Showmatches . They will show you how to deal with those pushes. Watched those games. I saw Stephano's roach-pushes crush Hero on Antigua and also crush MC in two games. Those games actually showed even MC and Hero lose to these pushes. | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On May 03 2012 22:16 revel8 wrote: Watched those games. I saw Stephano's roach-pushes crush Hero on Antigua and also crush MC in two games. Those games actually showed even MC and Hero lose to these pushes. Well, it's definitely a build that strains the multitasking of both players and as stephano can play 400apm with the best of them, the P has to do a lot to keep up. But I can't agree that if you know it's coming, then it is impossible to stop. It very much becomes a battle of execution. | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On May 03 2012 22:28 m0ck wrote: Well, it's definitely a build that strains the multitasking of both players and as stephano can play 400apm with the best of them, the P has to do a lot to keep up. But I can't agree that if you know it's coming, then it is impossible to stop. It very much becomes a battle of execution. No strategy will work 100% of the time. The Roach push is extremely hard to stop though, especially when executed by Stephano who is very comfortable with it and who rallies all his reinforcing units straight into his existing armies. Stephano usually has this as his Plan A because it does work so often, but he sometimes has to fall back to plan B which is usually infestor, hive, broodlords. Some maps also make the Roach push to destroy/deny the third base harder to execute than on others. It will be interesting to see whether Protoss will continue to struggle against this particular strategy until HOTS comes out, which will change everything again. Stephano will face tough challenges in Korea without question. Squirtle, MC, Genius, Naniwa, Oz, Puzzle are all brilliant Protoss players. | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On May 03 2012 21:13 wildstyle1337 wrote: Stephano makes roaches looks op, 12 min 200/200 supply 60 roaches that cost 75 minerals and have 140 hp, It is impossible for toss to take 3rd 10 minutes 52 seconds also i like people say "its easy to hold just watch xy" as they think socke and grubby not do such things and they still at least grubby got just roached xD as naruto would say "einfach DRÜBERGEROACHED" | ||
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adhoul
36 Posts
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On May 03 2012 21:36 FakeDeath wrote: That so called 12min roach push is not invincible. Just make a tight wall at your third with cannons. Sentries+ Immortals+ Stalkers stomp that easily. You should watch how korean protoss stomp that build. Watch Hero vs Stephano in EG Cup or even MC vs Stephano Showmatches . They will show you how to deal with those pushes. the problem is, that a diamond player can work 1 day and max out on 12 minutes on raoches - im not even zerg, i tried it and was maxed on 11:05 with +1, speed, lingspeed and 3 evo with a normal 7 minute roachwarren/evo timing. its sick easy to do it, its pretty hard to take a 3rd. Toss can always defend it and take a 3rd, but they cannot allow themselves to make mistakes, while it doesnt matter if the zerg herpderps 20 raoches into an army without killing a unit^^ player like MC and HerO defend it usually, but its not like PvZ lategame would be easy^^ | ||
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Mosquitow
England510 Posts
On May 04 2012 03:18 adhoul wrote: hello everybody can you give me the link to watch the finals stephano vs kas? i can't find them in http://de.twitch.tv/taketv/b/316914896 thanks! http://de.twitch.tv/taketv/b/316935378 the end and http://de.twitch.tv/taketv/b/316932741 this I believe | ||
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