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On April 19 2012 19:12 sc14s wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2012 19:11 Zerothegreat wrote:On April 19 2012 19:07 sc14s wrote: seriously have seen so many zergs lose trying to attack into a defensive T turtling on 3 bases on that map.. you would think they would stop trying to bust the T in these situations.. You suggest Zerg taking a 4th on that map? LOL i would suggest they do something else other than push into a siege tank / bunker / turret line that is unbreakable? whats wrong with getting broods which would make controlling mid just fine? better choice than muta/ling/bane into lose
Yea ifyou are going to 3 base all-in on Antiga, either do it with a simultaneous drop in the terran main base or do a 3 base hive all-in (broodlords and queens baby!)
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opterown
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On April 19 2012 19:14 LimitSEA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2012 19:12 sAsImre wrote:On April 19 2012 19:11 Dodgin wrote: Who do you think has a better chance against Mvp in the winners match, Hero or Leenock? Leenock imo, is ZvT is still beastly. But well, TvP at the moment it's pretty hard even for the best terrans compare to TvZ. MVP showed some pretty awesome TvP though in his round of 32 games against Puzzle. And he said himself he's pretty comfortable with TvP, so I'd say he'd be hoping for a HerO win.
don't forget 80% tvp MKP!
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On April 19 2012 19:14 SeeKeR wrote:Poll: Should I LR HerO vs Leenock?DO YOU F*IN JOB AND STOP COMPLAINING! (if u vote this u are evil and have no feelings for me......) (77) 76% Yes (15) 15% No (9) 9% 101 total votes Your vote: Should I LR HerO vs Leenock? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): DO YOU F*IN JOB AND STOP COMPLAINING! (if u vote this u are evil and have no feelings for me......)
Well, that escalated quickly.
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On April 19 2012 19:13 namste wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2012 19:11 Zerothegreat wrote:On April 19 2012 19:07 sc14s wrote: seriously have seen so many zergs lose trying to attack into a defensive T turtling on 3 bases on that map.. you would think they would stop trying to bust the T in these situations.. You suggest Zerg taking a 4th on that map? LOL Seen lots of Zergs take 4ths on that map. DRG plays like a boss on that map for example as well. Nestea has a good record on it as well if I remember right. Hyun has run so many people on that map with his "180 lings flank from 4 directions" -style as well.
I feel like Hyun style has a lot of potential, but Hyun often forgot to get hive. Cause you can't do shit against Brood/Corru/Infest near the xel and then it's hard to take a 4th for the T while the Z safely use the middle.
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On April 19 2012 19:14 Zerothegreat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2012 19:12 dsousa wrote:On April 19 2012 19:11 Zerothegreat wrote:On April 19 2012 19:07 sc14s wrote: seriously have seen so many zergs lose trying to attack into a defensive T turtling on 3 bases on that map.. you would think they would stop trying to bust the T in these situations.. You suggest Zerg taking a 4th on that map? LOL Ya, its better than throwing units into siege tanks...... No it isn't... You die an even more longer embarrassing death
nah id rather still macro up
late game zerg is still something to fear if you only use marine tank viking
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hero heart rate is insane as shown at dreamhack, i dont see that changing the only thing is if all his movements are on with mouse, and everything is jsut connecting i can see him destroying this groups, just depends how he feels~
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On April 19 2012 19:14 SeeKeR wrote:Poll: Should I LR HerO vs Leenock?DO YOU F*IN JOB AND STOP COMPLAINING! (if u vote this u are evil and have no feelings for me......) (77) 76% Yes (15) 15% No (9) 9% 101 total votes Your vote: Should I LR HerO vs Leenock? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): DO YOU F*IN JOB AND STOP COMPLAINING! (if u vote this u are evil and have no feelings for me......)
ahah. gotta love seeker
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
![[image loading]](http://beerstreetjournal.com/images/Liquid-Hero-American-Hero.png)
Let's go
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On April 19 2012 19:14 SeeKeR wrote:Poll: Should I LR HerO vs Leenock?DO YOU F*IN JOB AND STOP COMPLAINING! (if u vote this u are evil and have no feelings for me......) (77) 76% Yes (15) 15% No (9) 9% 101 total votes Your vote: Should I LR HerO vs Leenock? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): DO YOU F*IN JOB AND STOP COMPLAINING! (if u vote this u are evil and have no feelings for me......)
well now you know how we really feel about you
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On April 19 2012 19:14 Zerothegreat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2012 19:12 dsousa wrote:On April 19 2012 19:11 Zerothegreat wrote:On April 19 2012 19:07 sc14s wrote: seriously have seen so many zergs lose trying to attack into a defensive T turtling on 3 bases on that map.. you would think they would stop trying to bust the T in these situations.. You suggest Zerg taking a 4th on that map? LOL Ya, its better than throwing units into siege tanks...... No it isn't... You die an even more longer embarrassing death
Agree, atleast with this style you can pray Terran isn't ready for it. Every Terran is by default "ready" for a zerg trying to take a fourth on antiga, hehe :p
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On April 19 2012 19:15 Plexa wrote:![[image loading]](http://beerstreetjournal.com/images/Liquid-Hero-American-Hero.png) Let's go HEY I used to live by there!
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On April 19 2012 19:15 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2012 19:14 LimitSEA wrote:On April 19 2012 19:12 sAsImre wrote:On April 19 2012 19:11 Dodgin wrote: Who do you think has a better chance against Mvp in the winners match, Hero or Leenock? Leenock imo, is ZvT is still beastly. But well, TvP at the moment it's pretty hard even for the best terrans compare to TvZ. MVP showed some pretty awesome TvP though in his round of 32 games against Puzzle. And he said himself he's pretty comfortable with TvP, so I'd say he'd be hoping for a HerO win. don't forget 80% tvp MKP! We're gonna get MKP vs Parting at MLG Spring Arena and then possible in GSL next week ^_^
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On April 19 2012 19:14 namste wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2012 19:12 sc14s wrote:On April 19 2012 19:11 Zerothegreat wrote:On April 19 2012 19:07 sc14s wrote: seriously have seen so many zergs lose trying to attack into a defensive T turtling on 3 bases on that map.. you would think they would stop trying to bust the T in these situations.. You suggest Zerg taking a 4th on that map? LOL i would suggest they do something else other than push into a siege tank / bunker / turret line that is unbreakable? whats wrong with getting broods which would make controlling mid just fine? better choice than muta/ling/bane into lose That's how Stephano does it for example. And wins most of the time, if he's not against Polt that is.
3 bases Hive Broodlords is the only usable build on Antiga against 3 base max out from terran imo. You can die if you do it too slowly obviously, but attacking or taking a 4th is just suicide.
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On April 19 2012 19:14 SeeKeR wrote:Poll: Should I LR HerO vs Leenock?DO YOU F*IN JOB AND STOP COMPLAINING! (if u vote this u are evil and have no feelings for me......) (77) 76% Yes (15) 15% No (9) 9% 101 total votes Your vote: Should I LR HerO vs Leenock? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): DO YOU F*IN JOB AND STOP COMPLAINING! (if u vote this u are evil and have no feelings for me......)
If it makes you feel better Seeker, I voted the 2nd one.
... just kidding! I voted the first one
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United Kingdom10823 Posts
Oh come on Seeker, even | voted for option 3
Because I can :3
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This game will hopefeully be fucking EPIC D:
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Just looked it up. Atlantis Spaceship is 1 ingame second longer nat2nat, than Daybreak. Same as Terminus crosspositions.
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On April 19 2012 19:15 Plexa wrote:![[image loading]](http://beerstreetjournal.com/images/Liquid-Hero-American-Hero.png) Let's go
I like how it says American Hero
USA chant if he wins?
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On April 19 2012 19:16 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2012 19:14 namste wrote:On April 19 2012 19:12 sc14s wrote:On April 19 2012 19:11 Zerothegreat wrote:On April 19 2012 19:07 sc14s wrote: seriously have seen so many zergs lose trying to attack into a defensive T turtling on 3 bases on that map.. you would think they would stop trying to bust the T in these situations.. You suggest Zerg taking a 4th on that map? LOL i would suggest they do something else other than push into a siege tank / bunker / turret line that is unbreakable? whats wrong with getting broods which would make controlling mid just fine? better choice than muta/ling/bane into lose That's how Stephano does it for example. And wins most of the time, if he's not against Polt that is. 3 bases Hive Broodlords is the only usable build on Antiga against 3 base max out from terran imo. You can die if you do it too slowly obviously, but attacking or taking a 4th is just suicide. Pretty much this, that's why its a terrible map imo, taking more bases relies on incompetence on the terran's part more than anything else.
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On April 19 2012 19:16 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2012 19:14 namste wrote:On April 19 2012 19:12 sc14s wrote:On April 19 2012 19:11 Zerothegreat wrote:On April 19 2012 19:07 sc14s wrote: seriously have seen so many zergs lose trying to attack into a defensive T turtling on 3 bases on that map.. you would think they would stop trying to bust the T in these situations.. You suggest Zerg taking a 4th on that map? LOL i would suggest they do something else other than push into a siege tank / bunker / turret line that is unbreakable? whats wrong with getting broods which would make controlling mid just fine? better choice than muta/ling/bane into lose That's how Stephano does it for example. And wins most of the time, if he's not against Polt that is. 3 bases Hive Broodlords is the only usable build on Antiga against 3 base max out from terran imo. You can die if you do it too slowly obviously, but attacking or taking a 4th is just suicide.
Then you take the middle and deny a 4th from the T while slowly pushing...
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