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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On March 23 2012 21:35 SeventhPride wrote: Come on, he got outplayed hard losing his phoenix even with 3 range advantage, AND he used only 1 control key to fight mutas. That really didn't look like Hero, chasing after mutas with zealots and colossus. It was strange...and unfortunate as well that he went for colossus instead of his usual awesome templar play. | ||
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6BiT
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SeventhPride
712 Posts
On March 23 2012 21:35 Grampz wrote: No, the problem is, every game i have ever seen anyone get the upgrade, they lose to the same thing. Infestor tech switch. He did get out played, but that doesn't solve the problem or answer the question. The problem was never a problem, protoss didn't need the phoenix upgrade to fight mutas, they were comfortable using blink stalkers and storm to kill mutas. Hero was VERY good when he used that style (watched his games), I have no idea why he switched to phoenix. | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On March 23 2012 21:34 Vindicare605 wrote: the ugprade does what its supposed to do, allow Protoss to kill huge numbers of mutas. What? You want a single unit that kills everything Zerg can throw at you? Sorry, this game doesn't work that way. When did he say anything like that? He said the Phoenix upgrade is crap, and in the current metagame, so far it has been. | ||
Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On March 23 2012 21:36 Forbidden17 wrote: i hope tomorrow goes to ace match as well. really want to see mkp vs drg Tomorrow is New star hoseo vs StartaleQ | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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Tek_
Canada55 Posts
On March 23 2012 21:34 Vindicare605 wrote: the ugprade does what its supposed to do, allow Protoss to kill huge numbers of mutas. What? You want a single unit that kills everything Zerg can throw at you? Sorry, this game doesn't work that way. I didn't say anything like that. Having to get a Fleet Beacon and the upgrade just to deal with Mutas is not optimal, the upgrade makes no sense. The old route of blink stalker/high templar is almost always a better option. | ||
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Rammstorm
Germany1434 Posts
On March 23 2012 21:36 TheNessman wrote: wow fuck how did i stay up all night its 5:30 am here O_O You are NOT hurting E-sports  | ||
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Severus_
759 Posts
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Ryukku
Singapore545 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
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itsjuspeter
United States668 Posts
On March 23 2012 21:35 rothsbury wrote: Not really; he didn't even micro his phoenix well enough to utilise the upgrade. Also it was designed to help against zerg who mass mass mass mutas. Against players who make just a dozen or so then switch out of it you obviously want a much more measured response. How can anyone predict how many mutas a zerg make? It's really easy to go from pressing M to pressing R, I'm really sad hero lost he looks devastated. | ||
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SeventhPride
712 Posts
On March 23 2012 21:37 Tachion wrote: That really didn't look like Hero, chasing after mutas with zealots and colossus. It was strange...and unfortunate as well that he went for colossus instead of his usual awesome templar play. So true, if he played his usual storms he will have no problem. Its so weird why he went phoenixes. Horrible. | ||
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kubiks
France1328 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On March 23 2012 21:35 Dr_Jones wrote: Pretty sure P should just 2 base all in every game, it's the only way to beat Z... No, Hero went Stargate and didn't do enough with it. Stargate openings are all doomed the same way unless there is a major revolution in using them. I think there is a certain french protoss which is on to something in this area though. Nevertheless, PvZ will look lopsided like that when the Zerg isn't sufficiently halted or the Protoss doesn't expand aggressively. | ||
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FrozenFrotie
Singapore156 Posts
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rothsbury
Australia1654 Posts
On March 23 2012 21:36 Fubi wrote: Errr, how would his micro of phenoix changed anything? You're making it sound like having 3-4 extra phoenix there would of done anything against hydra/roaches Well sure, he would have lost. My point was that 1) he didn't even use the upgrade to its true potential and 2) the upgrade was not appropriate here since Leenock was not massing mutas. You tried to address my first point whilst ignoring my second but didn't really address either. | ||
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vndods
United States3743 Posts
goodnight everybody. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On March 23 2012 21:37 Gamegene wrote: HerO is not going to be getting any good results for a while. There's no way he's not depressed right now. When he goes to Las Vegas and sees the GSTL he'll remember these sad feelings tonight. + Show Spoiler + ;_; | ||
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Rammstorm
Germany1434 Posts
On March 23 2012 21:34 Vindicare605 wrote: the ugprade does what its supposed to do, allow Protoss to kill huge numbers of mutas. What? You want a single unit that kills everything Zerg can throw at you? Sorry, this game doesn't work that way. Archons say Hi | ||
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